Bell
Frosties > Cornflakes
+362|6817|UK

  I read on nordichardware that intel where ahead of schedule so may be pushing the release for late Q3, though I think that is probably a bit too ambitious.  Apparantly there is a statement on the 12th so that should clear some things up.

Martyn
GC_PaNzerFIN
Work and study @ Technical Uni
+528|6682|Finland

sweet. If they release Nehalem earlier, I should get my CPU pretty cheap in Q3 2009. (price drops ftw)
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Om nom nom nom
+48|6081
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srsly
.Sup
be nice
+2,646|6721|The Twilight Zone
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rammunition
Fully Loaded
+143|6129
i see no point in getting nehalem when it comes out straight away, i would rather have a high end 775 than a new socket.

i'll upgrade to nehalem in 2010, when the Westmere/Bloomfield  successor is out.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nehalem_(microarchitecture)#Successor

or even by 2012, when Haswell is out

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haswell_(microarchitecture)

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GC_PaNzerFIN
Work and study @ Technical Uni
+528|6682|Finland

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.Sup
be nice
+2,646|6721|The Twilight Zone
I'm not getting a Nehalem anyway. I saw a potential in C2D, got it and am very happy with it.
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Stimey
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+786|6388|Ontario | Canada
Once they start making games for 8 cores I'm sure performance will improve.
I don't even think most games are optmized for 4 cores.
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.Sup
be nice
+2,646|6721|The Twilight Zone

Stimey wrote:

Once they start making games for 8 cores I'm sure performance will improve.
I don't even think most games are optmized for 4 cores.
Yep, they are exaggerating with the number of cores.
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GC_PaNzerFIN
Work and study @ Technical Uni
+528|6682|Finland

Stimey wrote:

Once they start making games for 8 cores I'm sure performance will improve.
I don't even think most games are optmized for 4 cores.
yep but getting arse beaten by Phenom in games sucks.... why would I spend 800€ for new Nehalem setup when I can get Q9450 for 250€ and beat the crap out of the Nehalem in games...
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Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|6805|Long Island, New York
They've got time, they've got time...

-crosses fingers-
DUnlimited
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+1,160|6731|cuntshitlake

Poseidon wrote:

They've got time, they've got time...

-crosses fingers-
The Anandtech wall of text pretty much explains it. You will not need a better CPU than those out already if you go for gaming CPU. Nehalem is to compete AMD where they still beat Intel.
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.Sup
be nice
+2,646|6721|The Twilight Zone
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Intel’s upcoming Core i7 processors will feature a turbo mode, as announced on Day 1 of IDF. Although not quite like the retro turbo mode button found on computers of the late 1980’s, the turbo mode on Core i7 will still result in increased single threaded performance. The technology is based on the idea of dynamically increasing the frequency of the CPU when not all the coreshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coree are in use, archiving higher single threaded performance when that is all that is required.
WTF? Seems Intel thinks the only reason we OC is higher clocks.
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GC_PaNzerFIN
Work and study @ Technical Uni
+528|6682|Finland

well... if the first Nehalem is slower than Q9x00 series in gaming, I'll get a Q9450 and save 700€ (mobo, DDR3, cooler etc.) for other stuff like laptop, phone, headset, mouse and mousepad.
I have 4 and half months left in the army so I get some beefy gfx card(s) with the Q9450.

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Scorpion0x17
can detect anyone's visible post count...
+691|7034|Cambridge (UK)

.Sup wrote:

Stimey wrote:

Once they start making games for 8 cores I'm sure performance will improve.
I don't even think most games are optmized for 4 cores.
Yep, they are exaggerating with the number of cores.
One word: scalability.

And if there's one thing multi-core/multi-threaded code is, it's scalable - this means take your code that runs real sweet on a dual-core, via the magic of multi-threading, and go run it on a quad-core - it will be doubly as sweet.

Likewise for 8, 16, 32, hell, any number of cores.


(by the way, there are limitations - and in some specific situations a given chunk of code may run better on dual-core than quad, for example, but the above statement holds as a general rule of thumb)
_j5689_
Dreads & Bergers
+364|6985|Riva, MD

Sydney wrote:

Bell wrote:

It was because of this CPU, and, nvidia's laughable attempt to get us onto the '9' series GPU that I descided to shelf my plan on building a new high end machine.  I'll just be going with a fairly medicore one till christmas

Martyn
Hah, you and me both mate.

Next build for me will be the next generation CPU and GPU, with 4-8GB DDR3 RAM as well *drools*. (Ok, maybe the 8GB DDR3 is overkill )

And are my eyes fooling me, or are those 12 RAM holders? Does that mean that we can get 24GB RAM?
Welcome to Overkill!  Would you like 24GB of DDR3 RAM with your 16 CPU cores?
.Sup
be nice
+2,646|6721|The Twilight Zone
Penryn > Nehalem for Gaming

Nehalem is about improving HPC, Database, and virtualization performance, and much less about gaming performance. Maybe this will change once games get some heavy physics threads, but not right away.

Why? Most Games are about fast caches and super integer performance. After all, most of the Floating point action is already happening on the GPU. The Core 2 CPUs were a huge step forward in integer performance (not the least because of memory disambiguation) compared to the CPUs of that time (P4 and K8). Nehalem is only a small step forward in integer performance, and the gains due to slightly increased integer performance are mostly negated by the new cache system. In a previous post I told you that most games really like the huge L2 of the Core family. With Nehalem they are getting a 32KB L1 with a 4 cycle latency, next a very small (compared to the older Intel CPUs) 256KB L2 cache with 12 cycle latency, and after that a pretty slow 40 cycle 8MB L3. When running on Penryn, they used to get a 3 cycle L1 and a 14 cycle 6144KB L2. The Penryn L2 is 24 times larger than on Nehalem!
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DUnlimited
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+1,160|6731|cuntshitlake

.Sup wrote:

Maybe this will change once games get some heavy physics threads, but not right away.
Lol, physics are being trasferred to the video cards anyway.
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.Sup
be nice
+2,646|6721|The Twilight Zone

DeathUnlimited wrote:

.Sup wrote:

Maybe this will change once games get some heavy physics threads, but not right away.
Lol, physics are being trasferred to the video cards anyway.
lol Anandtech wrote that not me
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DUnlimited
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+1,160|6731|cuntshitlake

.Sup wrote:

DeathUnlimited wrote:

.Sup wrote:

Maybe this will change once games get some heavy physics threads, but not right away.
Lol, physics are being trasferred to the video cards anyway.
lol Anandtech wrote that not me
lol I know, I read it there too earlier. Just cut the quote tags off :d
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Freezer7Pro
I don't come here a lot anymore.
+1,447|6465|Winland

DeathUnlimited wrote:

.Sup wrote:

DeathUnlimited wrote:


Lol, physics are being trasferred to the video cards anyway.
lol Anandtech wrote that not me
lol I know, I read it there too earlier. Just cut the quote tags off :d
I read somewhere that after GPU physics, they'd start working seriously on multithreaded CPU physics.
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