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2008-08-25 12:24:11

']['error.V2: Om nom nom nom; +48|6081

Hello bf2s, a friend of mine is going to buy himself a new PC.

He now has an pentium 4 2.8ghz, 1gb ram, 6800gt. He's not gaming much and his main activity is autocad etc. for his school. I choose a rather powerfull processor for the rendering of the autocad models, and a 4850 GPU for the occasionally gaming ( CoD4 etc). This config will be hooked up to a 22" monitor.

My friend doesn't want to spend much on a case, "even if it's ugly has hell I don't care, as long as it's works, it'll be under my desk anyway" - he said. So I choose a cheap antec case, including a 120mm casefan.

https://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l310/stefanvdd/sdfgsdfgsdfg.jpg

so dear techs, what do you think of this rig?

2008-08-25 12:34:06

.Sup: be nice; +2,646|6721|The Twilight Zone

Me like. Quad is a must imo. Amount of ram seems about right too. Its good.

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2008-08-25 12:55:35

VicktorVauhn: Member; +319|6660|Southern California

That computer should be more then adequate for CAD....I think most can run at surprisingly low specs, you should see the computers we run solid works on at school (then again it does take a few seconds to rotate some more complex assemblies.)

If he is not gaming, look at the manufacturer's(of his cad program) website for recommended video cards... I don't really know what I am talking about but I think there are cheaper cards meant for CAD that will actually do a better...At least thats what it seemed like when I was googling about trying to get some rendering options working in solid works... I could be totally wrong, but I don't think gaming cards are optimized for that kinda thing...

2008-08-25 12:57:43

Brasso: member; +1,549|6898

VicktorVauhn wrote:
That computer should be more then adequate for CAD....I think most can run at surprisingly low specs, you should see the computers we run solid works on at school (then again it does take a few seconds to rotate some more complex assemblies.)

If he is not gaming, look at the manufacturer's(of his cad program) website for recommended video cards... I don't really know what I am talking about but I think there are cheaper cards meant for CAD that will actually do a better...At least thats what it seemed like when I was googling about trying to get some rendering options working in solid works... I could be totally wrong, but I don't think gaming cards are optimized for that kinda thing...

right, i think they are branded "workstation video cards" or something like that. i would think that gaming cards are more than powerful enough to do CAD though.

"people in ny have a general idea of how to drive. one of the pedals goes forward the other one prevents you from dying"

2008-08-25 12:58:58

.Sup: be nice; +2,646|6721|The Twilight Zone

It depends on the complexity i guess. My mom worked with CAD on a really old PC but this another dude worked on a nice machine and it was inadequate sometimes.

2008-08-25 13:04:47

Jenspm: penis; +1,716|7000|St. Andrews / Oslo

If this is for CAD, you'd probably be better off with an NVidia Quadro GPU.

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2008-08-25 13:06:07

Mitch92uK: aka [DBS]Mitch92uK; +192|6503|United Kingdom

or a cheap 2900XT and flash bios

2008-08-25 13:10:25

']['error.V2: Om nom nom nom; +48|6081

So the rendering of the models doesn't go over the CPU?

edit: he uses the programs AutoCAD 2009 and Autocad Civil 3D.

Last edited by ']['error.V2 (2008-08-25 13:12:15)

2008-08-25 13:11:13

.Sup: be nice; +2,646|6721|The Twilight Zone

Jenspm wrote:
If this is for CAD, you'd probably be better off with an NVidia Quadro GPU.

Does 2d rendering really need so much graphics power? Or is auto cad 3d now?

2008-08-25 13:58:04

VicktorVauhn: Member; +319|6660|Southern California

Jenspm wrote:
If this is for CAD, you'd probably be better off with an NVidia Quadro GPU.

Yeah, thats the guy.... Couldn't remember the exact name...

haffeysucks wrote:
VicktorVauhn wrote:
That computer should be more then adequate for CAD....I think most can run at surprisingly low specs, you should see the computers we run solid works on at school (then again it does take a few seconds to rotate some more complex assemblies.)

If he is not gaming, look at the manufacturer's(of his cad program) website for recommended video cards... I don't really know what I am talking about but I think there are cheaper cards meant for CAD that will actually do a better...At least thats what it seemed like when I was googling about trying to get some rendering options working in solid works... I could be totally wrong, but I don't think gaming cards are optimized for that kinda thing...
right, i think they are branded "workstation video cards" or something like that. i would think that gaming cards are more than powerful enough to do CAD though.

Yeah, my 8800GTS with 320mb kicks solid work's ass... I just want real view to work for presentations (renders the part with realistic textures based on the material properties you set.) That's the only thing my card hasn't been able to do (other CAD programs may use what ever the difference is more critically though, I dunno)... But if he isn't gaming, why buy a gaming card?

.Sup wrote:
Jenspm wrote:
If this is for CAD, you'd probably be better off with an NVidia Quadro GPU.
Does 2d rendering really need so much graphics power? Or is auto cad 3d now?

Your probably right, I didn't see him name a specific program and all the cad I have done has been in solid works, so I just figured 3d...

2008-08-25 14:06:13

']['error.V2: Om nom nom nom; +48|6081

VicktorVauhn wrote:
Jenspm wrote:
If this is for CAD, you'd probably be better off with an NVidia Quadro GPU.
Yeah, thats the guy.... Couldn't remember the exact name...

haffeysucks wrote:
VicktorVauhn wrote:
That computer should be more then adequate for CAD....I think most can run at surprisingly low specs, you should see the computers we run solid works on at school (then again it does take a few seconds to rotate some more complex assemblies.)

If he is not gaming, look at the manufacturer's(of his cad program) website for recommended video cards... I don't really know what I am talking about but I think there are cheaper cards meant for CAD that will actually do a better...At least thats what it seemed like when I was googling about trying to get some rendering options working in solid works... I could be totally wrong, but I don't think gaming cards are optimized for that kinda thing...
right, i think they are branded "workstation video cards" or something like that. i would think that gaming cards are more than powerful enough to do CAD though.
Yeah, my 8800GTS with 320mb kicks solid work's ass... I just want real view to work for presentations (renders the part with realistic textures based on the material properties you set.) That's the only thing my card hasn't been able to do (other CAD programs may use what ever the difference is more critically though, I dunno)... But if he isn't gaming, why buy a gaming card?
.Sup wrote:
Jenspm wrote:
If this is for CAD, you'd probably be better off with an NVidia Quadro GPU.
Does 2d rendering really need so much graphics power? Or is auto cad 3d now?
Your probably right, I didn't see him name a specific program and all the cad I have done has been in solid works, so I just figured 3d...

Well he does game, CoD4, project reality etc. But he's not an hardcore gamer. Will an 4870 do? It's only a few % slower than the GTX 260.

2008-08-25 14:07:21

DUnlimited: got any popo lolo intersting?; +1,160|6731|cuntshitlake

']['error.V2 wrote:
VicktorVauhn wrote:
Jenspm wrote:
If this is for CAD, you'd probably be better off with an NVidia Quadro GPU.
Yeah, thats the guy.... Couldn't remember the exact name...

haffeysucks wrote:
VicktorVauhn wrote:
That computer should be more then adequate for CAD....I think most can run at surprisingly low specs, you should see the computers we run solid works on at school (then again it does take a few seconds to rotate some more complex assemblies.)

If he is not gaming, look at the manufacturer's(of his cad program) website for recommended video cards... I don't really know what I am talking about but I think there are cheaper cards meant for CAD that will actually do a better...At least thats what it seemed like when I was googling about trying to get some rendering options working in solid works... I could be totally wrong, but I don't think gaming cards are optimized for that kinda thing...
right, i think they are branded "workstation video cards" or something like that. i would think that gaming cards are more than powerful enough to do CAD though.
Yeah, my 8800GTS with 320mb kicks solid work's ass... I just want real view to work for presentations (renders the part with realistic textures based on the material properties you set.) That's the only thing my card hasn't been able to do (other CAD programs may use what ever the difference is more critically though, I dunno)... But if he isn't gaming, why buy a gaming card?
.Sup wrote:

Does 2d rendering really need so much graphics power? Or is auto cad 3d now?
Your probably right, I didn't see him name a specific program and all the cad I have done has been in solid works, so I just figured 3d...
Well he does game, CoD4, project reality etc. But he's not an hardcore gamer. Will an 4870 do? It's only a few % slower than the GTX 260.

4870 rapes GTX260.

main battle tank karthus medikopter 117 megamegapowershot gg

2008-08-25 14:10:50

Brasso: member; +1,549|6898

DeathUnlimited wrote:
']['error.V2 wrote:
VicktorVauhn wrote:
Jenspm wrote:
If this is for CAD, you'd probably be better off with an NVidia Quadro GPU.
Yeah, thats the guy.... Couldn't remember the exact name...

haffeysucks wrote:
VicktorVauhn wrote:
That computer should be more then adequate for CAD....I think most can run at surprisingly low specs, you should see the computers we run solid works on at school (then again it does take a few seconds to rotate some more complex assemblies.)

If he is not gaming, look at the manufacturer's(of his cad program) website for recommended video cards... I don't really know what I am talking about but I think there are cheaper cards meant for CAD that will actually do a better...At least thats what it seemed like when I was googling about trying to get some rendering options working in solid works... I could be totally wrong, but I don't think gaming cards are optimized for that kinda thing...
right, i think they are branded "workstation video cards" or something like that. i would think that gaming cards are more than powerful enough to do CAD though.
Yeah, my 8800GTS with 320mb kicks solid work's ass... I just want real view to work for presentations (renders the part with realistic textures based on the material properties you set.) That's the only thing my card hasn't been able to do (other CAD programs may use what ever the difference is more critically though, I dunno)... But if he isn't gaming, why buy a gaming card?

Your probably right, I didn't see him name a specific program and all the cad I have done has been in solid works, so I just figured 3d...
Well he does game, CoD4, project reality etc. But he's not an hardcore gamer. Will an 4870 do? It's only a few % slower than the GTX 260.
4870 rapes GTX260.

"people in ny have a general idea of how to drive. one of the pedals goes forward the other one prevents you from dying"

2008-08-25 15:25:19

Defiance: Member; +438|6939

VicktorVauhn wrote:
If he is not gaming, look at the manufacturer's(of his cad program) website for recommended video cards... I don't really know what I am talking about but I think there are cheaper cards meant for CAD that will actually do a better...At least thats what it seemed like when I was googling about trying to get some rendering options working in solid works... I could be totally wrong, but I don't think gaming cards are optimized for that kinda thing...

Your right, there are workstations cards. But cheaper? Not a chance in hell.

At least comparing top of the line from both genres...

2008-08-25 15:46:09

VicktorVauhn: Member; +319|6660|Southern California

Defiance wrote:
VicktorVauhn wrote:
If he is not gaming, look at the manufacturer's(of his cad program) website for recommended video cards... I don't really know what I am talking about but I think there are cheaper cards meant for CAD that will actually do a better...At least thats what it seemed like when I was googling about trying to get some rendering options working in solid works... I could be totally wrong, but I don't think gaming cards are optimized for that kinda thing...
Your right, there are workstations cards. But cheaper? Not a chance in hell.

At least comparing top of the line from both genres...

Why would you compare top of the line consumer components to top of the line industrial hardware?
At least prove me wrong on price/performance

2008-08-25 15:50:18

Poseidon: Fudgepack DeQueef; +3,253|6805|Long Island, New York

Q9550

Unless Nehalem is good with gaming (better than the Q9550), I'm getting that. However, all signs are pointing to Nehalem sucking at gaming, so...

2008-08-25 16:23:19

Gooners: Wiki Contributor; +2,700|6900

Poseidon wrote:
Q9550

Unless Nehalem is good with gaming (better than the Q9550), I'm getting that. However, all signs are pointing to Nehalem sucking at gaming, so...

Whats the difference between the Q9550 and the Q9450, other than the .2GHz?

2008-08-25 16:26:10

Poseidon: Fudgepack DeQueef; +3,253|6805|Long Island, New York

Gooners wrote:
Poseidon wrote:
Q9550

Unless Nehalem is good with gaming (better than the Q9550), I'm getting that. However, all signs are pointing to Nehalem sucking at gaming, so...
Whats the difference between the Q9550 and the Q9450, other than the .2GHz?

everyone knows higher numbers = better

silly goose

nothing really, actually...but it's not that much extra money ($5), so I don't care.

Last edited by Poseidon (2008-08-25 16:26:37)

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