I was about to edit my post to point that out, but I figured the topic would have probably swiftly moved on.Braddock wrote:
Quick question...which war was fought recently that endangered the first amendment rights of US citizens? Did I miss something.Spearhead wrote:
Guess what, you also fought for my right to call you a fascist. And your right to call me a pampered little bitch. You dont even know what the fuck I'm saying, do you?SgtHeihn wrote:
YES, I am a Fascists!! I can finally die a happy man!
I tell you what don't you ever call me that again you pampered little bitch. I have fought for your First Amendment rights, You know what, if torturing a fucking haji would have saved even one of my friends lives then I would have done it myself.
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What's Worse
| Sleep Deprivation | 39% | 39% - 17 | ||||
| Death | 60% | 60% - 26 | ||||
| Total: 43 | ||||||
How does fighting in Iraq or Afghanistan or Vietnam or Korea or Panama protect the rights of US citizens...can someone please enlighten me?lowing wrote:
And when did you serve and defend all of our rights?Spearhead wrote:
Guess what, you also fought for my right to call you a fascist. And your right to call me a pampered little bitch. You dont even know what the fuck I'm saying, do you?SgtHeihn wrote:
YES, I am a Fascists!! I can finally die a happy man!
I tell you what don't you ever call me that again you pampered little bitch. I have fought for your First Amendment rights, You know what, if torturing a fucking haji would have saved even one of my friends lives then I would have done it myself.
Whoa..... so only those in the military are allowed freedom of speech?lowing wrote:
And when did you serve and defend all of our rights?Spearhead wrote:
Guess what, you also fought for my right to call you a fascist. And your right to call me a pampered little bitch. You dont even know what the fuck I'm saying, do you?SgtHeihn wrote:
YES, I am a Fascists!! I can finally die a happy man!
I tell you what don't you ever call me that again you pampered little bitch. I have fought for your First Amendment rights, You know what, if torturing a fucking haji would have saved even one of my friends lives then I would have done it myself.
When the FUCK did I say I served?
Does the fact that I haven't served (yet) have anything to do with my argument? If serving in the military is the only way to wisdom, why aren't we a totalitarian police state led by a dictator? Oh wait......
orly?Spearhead wrote:
Fuck this thread, half of you righties posting here dont even know what marine and I are talking about.
You want to torture people, fine. Just know that your grandparents would be fucking ashamed of you. We fought World War Two to rid fascists like you off this Earth. The due process of law is one of the greatest things about this country and you guys hardly even talk about it.
because i'm pretty sure they fought for their comrades, friends, and families -- not "to rid fascists like [me]"
were they oh-so-noble government leaders of WWII when they firebombed Tokyo? i'm sure they made sure to spare every innocent life. no civilian or innocent person was injured then...and i'm sure they weren't sleep deprived, for heaven's sake.
what do you think would happen if we nuked a major city now?
most of the stories we read now are out of context anyway. War bashing is becoming almost as cool as Bush bashing.
Due process, read up on the thread.CoronadoSEAL wrote:
orly?Spearhead wrote:
Fuck this thread, half of you righties posting here dont even know what marine and I are talking about.
You want to torture people, fine. Just know that your grandparents would be fucking ashamed of you. We fought World War Two to rid fascists like you off this Earth. The due process of law is one of the greatest things about this country and you guys hardly even talk about it.
because i'm pretty sure they fought for their comrades, friends, and families -- not "to rid fascists like [me]"
were they oh-so-noble government leaders of WWII when they firebombed Tokyo? i'm sure they made sure to spare every innocent life. no civilian or innocent person was injured then...and i'm sure they weren't sleep deprived, for heaven's sake.
what do you think would happen if we nuked a major city now?
most of the stories we read now are out of context anyway. War bashing is becoming almost as cool as Bush bashing.
There was no war bashing up until freedom of speech.
This topic is just a general list of complaints left and right have about each other. I vote for a close.
a standing military is necessary for a nation to ensure its sovereignty.Braddock wrote:
How does fighting in Iraq or Afghanistan or Vietnam or Korea or Panama protect the rights of US citizens...can someone please enlighten me?lowing wrote:
And when did you serve and defend all of our rights?Spearhead wrote:
Guess what, you also fought for my right to call you a fascist. And your right to call me a pampered little bitch. You dont even know what the fuck I'm saying, do you?
You are arguing to argue. Your think your view and ones that agree with you count. Any one that disagrees with you is wrong and a Right wing nut.
Gimme a break all ready, you are trying to tell me that pointing out the social mindset before civil rights in America is "generalizing"...I am sick to death of this bullshit catch all lame ass rebutal from people like you. So yes if you are saying it is generalizing then you are denying our history.Spearhead wrote:
What?lowing wrote:
Nope, speaking of the social mindset that existed before the civil rights movment. Or are you now gunna deny even this part of our history? Ask Braddock, it was so un-nerving that there are black people today still can't go to school or find a job because of it.Spearhead wrote:
Generalizing again eh?
When have I denied any part of our history? lmao
lowing, you hear only what you want to hear. Trying to comprehend someone else's argument every year or five might help you broaden your perspective a little..
Forget it Spearhead, it's a bullshit argument that right-wing conservatives throw around all the time. It doesn't actually make any sense if you break the argument down. Unless someone has served in a war that is being fought to protect the US from an invading force that could potentially take over the country and install its own regime, thus infringing on or ending the rights of US citizens, then the argument doesn't stand up. No war since WW2 comes close to this scenario (and WW2 might not even have realistically ended in invasion tbh).Spearhead wrote:
Whoa..... so only those in the military are allowed freedom of speech?lowing wrote:
And when did you serve and defend all of our rights?Spearhead wrote:
Guess what, you also fought for my right to call you a fascist. And your right to call me a pampered little bitch. You dont even know what the fuck I'm saying, do you?
When the FUCK did I say I served?
Does the fact that I haven't served (yet) have anything to do with my argument? If serving in the military is the only way to wisdom, why aren't we a totalitarian police state led by a dictator? Oh wait......
I thought arguing to argue was what this whole thread was about? And in any case you are wrong and a right wing nut.SgtHeihn wrote:
You are arguing to argue. Your think your view and ones that agree with you count. Any one that disagrees with you is wrong and a Right wing nut.
Well its showing pretty well the right have trouble understanding arguments which challenge their black and white view of the world.
I vote for a close too, I'm pretty outnumbered for such a liberally biased debate forum... rofl
I vote for a close too, I'm pretty outnumbered for such a liberally biased debate forum... rofl
The military serves an important role in every nation but the US wars of the last 50 years have done nothing in real terms to protect US citizens rights.God Save the Queen wrote:
a standing military is necessary for a nation to ensure its sovereignty.Braddock wrote:
How does fighting in Iraq or Afghanistan or Vietnam or Korea or Panama protect the rights of US citizens...can someone please enlighten me?lowing wrote:
And when did you serve and defend all of our rights?
.Sup wrote:
Whats Sleep Deprivation? Lack of sleep or something?
soldiers dont choose which wars to fightBraddock wrote:
The military serves an important role in every nation but the US wars of the last 50 years have done nothing in real terms to protect US citizens rights.God Save the Queen wrote:
a standing military is necessary for a nation to ensure its sovereignty.Braddock wrote:
How does fighting in Iraq or Afghanistan or Vietnam or Korea or Panama protect the rights of US citizens...can someone please enlighten me?
1. nope, but you need to recognize who the people are that do defend your right to be an assholeSpearhead wrote:
Whoa..... so only those in the military are allowed freedom of speech?lowing wrote:
And when did you serve and defend all of our rights?Spearhead wrote:
Guess what, you also fought for my right to call you a fascist. And your right to call me a pampered little bitch. You dont even know what the fuck I'm saying, do you?
When the FUCK did I say I served?
Does the fact that I haven't served (yet) have anything to do with my argument? If serving in the military is the only way to wisdom, why aren't we a totalitarian police state led by a dictator? Oh wait......
2.Never said, YOU said you served.
3. Nope, but it is disrespectful to tell someone that they served and risked their life for YOUR right to INSULT them.
True, but it doesn't change the point of my last post.God Save the Queen wrote:
soldiers dont choose which wars to fightBraddock wrote:
The military serves an important role in every nation but the US wars of the last 50 years have done nothing in real terms to protect US citizens rights.God Save the Queen wrote:
a standing military is necessary for a nation to ensure its sovereignty.
yep.Sup wrote:
.Sup wrote:
Whats Sleep Deprivation? Lack of sleep or something?
I'm not denying the way things were, but saying that all our grandparents were racist and bigoted is totally untrue.lowing wrote:
Gimme a break all ready, you are trying to tell me that pointing out the social mindset before civil rights in America is "generalizing"...I am sick to death of this bullshit catch all lame ass rebutal from people like you. So yes if you are saying it is generalizing then you are denying our history.Spearhead wrote:
What?lowing wrote:
Nope, speaking of the social mindset that existed before the civil rights movment. Or are you now gunna deny even this part of our history? Ask Braddock, it was so un-nerving that there are black people today still can't go to school or find a job because of it.
When have I denied any part of our history? lmao
lowing, you hear only what you want to hear. Trying to comprehend someone else's argument every year or five might help you broaden your perspective a little..
Yes..Sup wrote:
.Sup wrote:
Whats Sleep Deprivation? Lack of sleep or something?
1. I did recognize it smart ass, I said he fought for my right of freedom of speechlowing wrote:
1. nope, but you need to recognize who the people are that do defend your right to be an assholeSpearhead wrote:
Whoa..... so only those in the military are allowed freedom of speech?lowing wrote:
And when did you serve and defend all of our rights?
When the FUCK did I say I served?
Does the fact that I haven't served (yet) have anything to do with my argument? If serving in the military is the only way to wisdom, why aren't we a totalitarian police state led by a dictator? Oh wait......
2.Never said, YOU said you served.
3. Nope, but it is disrespectful to tell someone that they served and risked their life for YOUR right to INSULT them.
2. What?
3. Dont ever tell me I need to respect a torturer... whether they be a fucking Taliban terrorist or someone in the US military.
lowing, YOU ARE PUTTING WORDS IN MY MOUTH. I quit this thread, you people are fucking nutcases.
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Sleep deprivation is worse.
Death can be a means to end suffering.
Death can be a means to end suffering.
God Save the Queen wrote:
soldiers dont choose which wars to fight
CoronadoSEAL wrote:
orly?Spearhead wrote:
Fuck this thread, half of you righties posting here dont even know what marine and I are talking about.
You want to torture people, fine. Just know that your grandparents would be fucking ashamed of you. We fought World War Two to rid fascists like you off this Earth. The due process of law is one of the greatest things about this country and you guys hardly even talk about it.
because i'm pretty sure they fought for their comrades, friends, and families -- not "to rid fascists like [me]"
What has your argument been? "you're generalizing"?Spearhead wrote:
Well its showing pretty well the right have trouble understanding arguments which challenge their black and white view of the world.
I vote for a close too, I'm pretty outnumbered for such a liberally biased debate forum... rofl
I will stand toe to toe with you on any topic you choose regarding liberalism. Lets see if you can make an argument without using "racist", "bigot" or "generalizing". Your ass would implode.
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rofllowing wrote:
What has your argument been? "you're generalizing"?Spearhead wrote:
Well its showing pretty well the right have trouble understanding arguments which challenge their black and white view of the world.
I vote for a close too, I'm pretty outnumbered for such a liberally biased debate forum... rofl
I will stand toe to toe with you on any topic you choose regarding liberalism. Lets see if you can make an argument with using "racist", "bigot" or "generalizing". Your ass would implode.