Burwhale
Save the BlobFish!
+136|6642|Brisneyland

West Australia today wrote:

When the tobacco industry was feeling the heat from scientists who showed that smoking caused cancer, it took decisive action.

It engaged in a decades-long public relations campaign to undermine the medical research and discredit the scientists. The aim was not to prove tobacco harmless but to cast doubt on the science.

In May this year, the multibillion-dollar oil giant Exxon-Mobil acknowledged that it had been doing something similar. It announced that it would cease funding nine groups that had fuelled a global campaign to deny climate change.

West Australia today wrote:

The funding of an array of think tanks and institutes that house climate sceptics and deniers also worried Britain's premier scientific body, the Royal Society. It found that in 2005 Exxon distributed nearly $3 million to 39 groups that "misrepresented the science of climate change by outright denial of the evidence that greenhouse gases are driving climate change".
Source

We are talking big dollars here.
Exxon paid:
$715 000 to Georce C Marshall institute.
$800 000 to Heartland institute.
$100 000 to Centre for the study of CO2
and heaps more.

And this is what their money pays for:

In his recent book Heat, George Monbiot gives the example of the TV presenter and botanist, David Bellamy, who is also a climate sceptic. He told the New Scientist in 2005 that most glaciers in the world are growing, not shrinking. He said his evidence came from the World Glacier Monitoring Service in Switzerland, a reputable body. When Monbiot checked the service they said that the Bellamy claim was "complete bullshit". Glaciers are retreating.
Interestingly the major reason for ending the funding to climate change denial groups was a shareholder revolt.

Of course this doesnt come as a big suprise however its good to see firm evidence showing that massive corporations are deliberately misrepresenting climate change science in order to protect profits.
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,822|6526|eXtreme to the maX
Wow I'm so surprised.
Fuck Israel
motherdear
Member
+25|7071|Denmark/Minnesota (depends)
look at the bright side, they are beginning to stop it now and hopefully they will allocate more of their money into new energy resources to fuel their company (instead of the govt. doing it)
Pug
UR father's brother's nephew's former roommate
+652|6962|Texas - Bigger than France
Huh?  How much oil & gas is Exxon burning again?
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7177|Argentina
For that money I'll deny it too.
Mint Sauce
Frighteningly average
+780|6706|eng
They've got it to spend, why not?
#rekt
Pug
UR father's brother's nephew's former roommate
+652|6962|Texas - Bigger than France
Isn't this kind of like a meth addict blaming his dealer?
God Save the Queen
Banned
+628|6763|tropical regions of london
meth is bad
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|7021|132 and Bush

There is a lot of money to be made by the global warming folks also. Is Al Gore still cashing in?
Xbone Stormsurgezz
The#1Spot
Member
+105|6960|byah

God Save the Queen wrote:

meth is bad
So is tobacco. But if the govt says its ok then I guess it is.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|7021|132 and Bush

The#1Spot wrote:

God Save the Queen wrote:

meth is bad
So is tobacco. But if the govt says its ok then I guess it is.
Clearly you haven't been listening to the surgeon general.
Xbone Stormsurgezz
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7177|Argentina

Kmarion wrote:

The#1Spot wrote:

God Save the Queen wrote:

meth is bad
So is tobacco. But if the govt says its ok then I guess it is.
Clearly you haven't been listening to the surgeon general.
Or reading the cigarettes disclaimers.
God Save the Queen
Banned
+628|6763|tropical regions of london

The#1Spot wrote:

God Save the Queen wrote:

meth is bad
So is tobacco. But if the govt says its ok then I guess it is.
comparing meth to tobacco is something that really cant be done.
Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|7041|London, England
meth is such a usa suburb drug
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6949|Global Command
Aren't they called lobbyist?
m3thod
All kiiiiiiiiinds of gainz
+2,197|7091|UK
m3th is a sexy mofo
Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.
Commie Killer
Member
+192|6807

Mek-Stizzle wrote:

meth is such a usa suburb drug
Its not around here, mostly coke, mary jane, shrooms, and e. Well, and regular pills.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6825|North Carolina
The solution to global warming is clear...

jord
Member
+2,382|7098|The North, beyond the wall.
It's good to hear to sides of a debate. Alls people here is "Oh noez stop driving cause you're gonna kill everyone". People should get two viewpoints on things. Is man made climate change even a fact? If so, is the effect man has on the atmosphere 1000th that compared to Nature?
Spearhead
Gulf coast redneck hippy
+731|7110|Tampa Bay Florida
Global warming is a non issue.

The real issue is about alternative fuels.
RoosterCantrell
Goodbye :)
+399|6900|Somewhere else

Dilbert_X wrote:

Wow I'm so surprised.
This article fits right next to the "politicians are corrupt" article. 
Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
+874|7094|Canberra, AUS

Spearhead wrote:

Global warming is a non issue.

The real issue is about alternative fuels.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,822|6526|eXtreme to the maX
meth is bad
Only according to the people who say its bad.
Think of all the people employed in production, distribution, promotion, sales etc.
You wouldn't want to put them out of work on the say-so of some Democrat-voting seaweed eating Californian now would you?

If climate change theories are wrong - which I doubt - energy security alone should be enough to convince us all to find alternatives to oil and coal and natural gas.
Fuck Israel
chittydog
less busy
+586|7255|Kubra, Damn it!

jord wrote:

It's good to hear to sides of a debate. Alls people here is "Oh noez stop driving cause you're gonna kill everyone". People should get two viewpoints on things. Is man made climate change even a fact? If so, is the effect man has on the atmosphere 1000th that compared to Nature?
Not in this case. When one side has been paid to represent a view that may or may not be accurate, it really invalidates their whole argument. Plus, if they really had a case and really had evidence, why would they need to be paid to present it. If Big Oil didn't already run the government, it's very possible we'd see a public investigation of them that blow this whole "man has no effect" argument out of the water. In the face of volumes of statistics, they've already had to backpedal and stop denying that global warming exists.

But jord, yeah, I agree 100% that it's normally good to hear all sides. Without context and being properly informed, it's hard to make the correct decision.
Flecco
iPod is broken.
+1,048|7085|NT, like Mick Dundee

Dilbert_X wrote:

If climate change theories are wrong - which I doubt - energy security alone should be enough to convince us all to find alternatives to oil and coal and natural gas.
Don't say that, a major oil company will assassinate you.
Whoa... Can't believe these forums are still kicking.

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