Iran touts military power with photos of ..model airplanes

2008-09-02 02:17:41

#51

FEOS: Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate; +1,182|6831|'Murka

Varegg wrote:
I wonder who started all this using models as a way of conception ... oh yes it was the US during WW2, mock yourself allready

Using inflatable dummies to deceive aerial photography and such is quite different than using models in high-resolution, publicly-available photos.

They may have been attempting to do the same thing, but if so, they failed miserably.

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2008-09-02 02:32:23

#52

Varegg: Support fanatic :-); +2,206|7230|Nårvei

Of course it is different when you do it ...

Wait behind the line ..............................................................

2008-09-02 02:35:02

#53

FEOS: Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate; +1,182|6831|'Murka

Varegg wrote:
Of course it is different when you do it ...

Of course it is different when it's 60-odd years later and the two decoy techniques are completely different.

“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular

2008-09-02 02:37:55

#54

Varegg: Support fanatic :-); +2,206|7230|Nårvei

FEOS wrote:
Varegg wrote:
Of course it is different when you do it ...
Of course it is different when it's 60-odd years later and the two decoy techniques are completely different.

Not really and can you really blame them for trying ?

And it might not be directed at foreign sources but maybe as a mean to boost moral within Irans borders ...

Wait behind the line ..............................................................

2008-09-02 03:00:09

#55

FEOS: Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate; +1,182|6831|'Murka

Varegg wrote:
FEOS wrote:
Varegg wrote:
Of course it is different when you do it ...
Of course it is different when it's 60-odd years later and the two decoy techniques are completely different.
Not really

Yes, really.

and can you really blame them for trying ?

No, but they certainly could have tried harder.

And it might not be directed at foreign sources but maybe as a mean to boost moral within Irans borders ...

Entirely possible.

“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular

2008-09-02 03:35:36

#56

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,822|6526|eXtreme to the maX

Varegg wrote:
Of course it is different when you do it ...

You'll get used to FEOS

Fuck Israel

2008-09-02 03:41:14

#57

Varegg: Support fanatic :-); +2,206|7230|Nårvei

Dilbert_X wrote:
Varegg wrote:
Of course it is different when you do it ...
You'll get used to FEOS

Allready know him quite well, have been around for a few days

Wait behind the line ..............................................................

2008-09-02 03:50:13

#58

FEOS: Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate; +1,182|6831|'Murka

Dilbert_X wrote:
Varegg wrote:
Of course it is different when you do it ...
You'll get used to FEOS being right

Fixed

“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular

2008-09-02 06:31:54

#59

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,822|6526|eXtreme to the maX

FEOS wrote:
You'll get used to FEOS being a pompous white supremacist

Fixed

Fuck Israel

2008-09-02 06:39:54

#60

Mekstizzle: WALKER; +3,611|7041|London, England

Dilbert_X wrote:
FEOS wrote:
You'll get used to FEOS being a pompous white supremacist
Fixed

Serious allegation right there Dillon

2008-09-02 06:44:15

#61

ghettoperson: Member; +1,943|7069

Mek-Stizzle wrote:
Dilbert_X wrote:
FEOS wrote:
You'll get used to FEOS being a pompous white supremacist
Fixed
Serious allegation right there Dillon

Pompous perhaps; not so sure about the white supremacist bit. There are a lot of people on here that I'd think of being one before him, and even then I don't seriously think anyone on here is like that.

2008-09-02 06:45:04

#62

SEREVENT: MASSIVE G STAR; +605|6527|Birmingham, UK

Iran aren't the first to display fake weapons.

Nor shall they be the last.

2008-09-02 10:35:37

#63

Pierre: I hunt criminals down for a living; +68|7095|Belgium

Maybe their nuclear program is fake too...

2008-09-02 11:14:23

#64

Kmar: Truth is my Bitch; +5,695|7020|132 and Bush

Pierre wrote:
Maybe their nuclear program is fake too...

Maybe the UN's balls are fake too.

Xbone Stormsurgezz

2008-09-02 11:22:03

#65

imortal: Member; +240|7084|Austin, TX

FEOS wrote:
Varegg wrote:
I wonder who started all this using models as a way of conception ... oh yes it was the US during WW2, mock yourself allready
Using inflatable dummies to deceive aerial photography and such is quite different than using models in high-resolution, publicly-available photos.

They may have been attempting to do the same thing, but if so, they failed miserably.

Agreed, it is very different. In one case, it was an attempt to decieve the enemy to conceal real numbers and dispositions of real troops. No attempt was made to try to pass these off as 'real' to the general public, nor were they publicized to increase the apparant size of the forces. This tactic was dependant on the enemies recon capabilities. It is a case of hiding your cavalry in the forest off the enemies' flank, but in modern terms.

Iran has published these photos in an attempt to deceive its own public, as well as the public and militaries around the world. It is not a tactic of misdirection used in time of war against one's enemies; it is a piece of propaganda, to brag and boast about the size fo their military penis.

2008-09-02 11:46:56

#66

aerodynamic: FOCKING HELL; +241|6173|Roma

Never under estimate you enemy.

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2008-09-02 12:06:12

#67

SEREVENT: MASSIVE G STAR; +605|6527|Birmingham, UK

aerodynamic wrote:
Never under estimate you enemy.

Too true.

Look at how Iraq turned out...

2008-09-02 12:10:48

#68

Vilham: Say wat!?; +580|7186|UK

Varegg wrote:
I wonder who started all this using models as a way of conception ... oh yes it was the US during WW2, mock yourself allready

Accept that worked because they were lifesized models that couldn't be inspected at close detail and were only needed to show a rough outline to fool the enemy.

Rather than some taking some images that are already on the internet in the day of computer technology where false images can easily be picked out.

Slightly different methinks.

2008-09-02 12:11:50

#69

aerodynamic: FOCKING HELL; +241|6173|Roma

SEREVENT wrote:
aerodynamic wrote:
Never under estimate you enemy.
Too true.

Look at how Iraq turned out...

Well Us army was far superior that the Vietcong in technology but the US ended losing the war.

2008-09-02 12:13:29

#70

SEREVENT: MASSIVE G STAR; +605|6527|Birmingham, UK

aerodynamic wrote:
SEREVENT wrote:
aerodynamic wrote:
Never under estimate you enemy.
Too true.

Look at how Iraq turned out...
Well Us army was far superior that the Vietcong in technology but the US ended losing the war.

o shi-

Vietnam WOULD have been a better example.

2008-09-02 12:19:08

#71

djphetal: Go Ducks.; +346|6755|Oregon

Iran's a paper tiger.

2008-09-02 16:06:45

#72

Christbane: Member; +51|6654

Varegg wrote:
I wonder who started all this using models as a way of conception ... oh yes it was the US during WW2, mock yourself allready

they were used to convince the germans we were going to invade in a different location, not to convince them we had more then we did. not even close to the same thing.

2008-09-02 16:08:45

#73

Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|6890

Christbane wrote:
Varegg wrote:
I wonder who started all this using models as a way of conception ... oh yes it was the US during WW2, mock yourself allready
they were used to convince the germans we were going to invade in a different location, not to convince them we had more then we did. not even close to the same thing.

Technically it's the same concept but with an altogether different use.

Same things exercised for different results .

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2008-09-02 16:09:20

#74

SEREVENT: MASSIVE G STAR; +605|6527|Birmingham, UK

Christbane wrote:
Varegg wrote:
I wonder who started all this using models as a way of conception ... oh yes it was the US during WW2, mock yourself allready
they were used to convince the germans we were going to invade in a different location, not to convince them we had more then we did. not even close to the same thing.

So was the whole some-country-dropping-tin-foil-to-confuse-the-Germans thing real or fake? I can't remember where i heard that...

2008-09-02 17:08:54

#75

FEOS: Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate; +1,182|6831|'Murka

Mek-Stizzle wrote:
Dilbert_X wrote:
Dilbert_X wrote:
You'll get used to FEOS being a pompous white supremacist
Fixed
Serious allegation right there Dillon

Well, it's not like Dilbert's ever let facts get in the way of his hyperbolic allegations before...why should he start now?

I'll be sure to let all my black, hispanic, arab, jewish, and asian friends (and my Chinese daughter) know that I've been accused of being a white supremacist. They'll get a kick out of that.

Must've struck pretty close to home for Dilbert to twist off like that...

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