My new PC and Vista

2008-09-02 08:01:27

#1

RDMC: Enemy Wheelbarrow Spotted..!!; +736|6833|Area 51

Hey all,

About two weeks ago I put together my new PC and decided to run Vista on it and it has been nothing but trouble yet! Now most of them have been sorted out but for some reason Vista likes to crash my games. Every time I go play a game it will just shut it down only giving me the message '<Insert game here> has stopped working' and then it tries to find the reasons why it has stopped but it cant find anything. As you can imagine this is becoming EXTREMELY annoying so does anyone have a clue wtf is going on here?

I don't really see a reason for my PC specs but if you need them you can find them in my sig and I am using Vista 32bit Ultimate.

Thanks in advance,

RDMC

2008-09-02 08:24:24

#2

Shadow893: lel; +75|6960|England

I have pretty much the same setup and VIsta works flawlessly with me. Maybe a fresh install of vista may help or if nott google for the latest game releases / patches what ever they are called.

Oh and what games are giving you error messages?

2008-09-02 08:33:07

#3

max: Vela Incident; +1,652|6835|NYC / Hamburg

using a pre-activated version? Those are nothing but pain.

Everything stable?

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2008-09-02 08:50:36

#4

Freezer7Pro: I don't come here a lot anymore.; +1,447|6465|Winland

Run FURMARK (Google it). I have a feeling your PSU isn't really enough to run that HD4870.

The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP

2008-09-02 09:42:05

#5

killinzero1: Member; +14|6655

Freezer7Pro wrote:
Run FURMARK (Google it). I have a feeling your PSU isn't really enough to run that HD4870.

X2

2008-09-02 09:50:25

#6

jamiet757: Member; +138|6890

Also, try reinstalling graphics drivers, sometimes that will be the cause of the problems.

2008-09-02 11:00:55

#7

Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|6738

I also find the 450W PSU dubious.

Perhaps the additional power-supply required by games is causing crashes because the PSU can't provide.

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2008-09-02 11:02:34

#8

SpIk3y: Minister of Silly Walks; +67|6407|New Jersey

Uzique wrote:
I also find the 450W PSU dubious.

Perhaps the additional power-supply required by games is causing crashes because the PSU can't provide.

QFT

2008-09-02 11:09:41

#9

TheDonkey: Eat my bearrrrrrrrrrr, Tonighttt; +163|5985|Vancouver, BC, Canada

Yeah, Vista's run fine for me, although I did have to tune down my Overclock 10 points
It BSOD'd every half hour if I didn't.

2008-09-02 11:23:14

#10

RDMC: Enemy Wheelbarrow Spotted..!!; +736|6833|Area 51

To answer all your suggestions at once:

I've already done a fresh reinstall of Vista and it still fails.
I had the graphics drivers installed that came with the GPU then I installed the latest ones and my games still 'stop working' at random times.
I am now downloading FURMARK and going to run that.
The PSU should be fine, its the minimum (yes I know) but my uncle has a similar setup (actually almost the same except for a heavier PSU other HD's and other RAM. And he has a 'power gage' and at maximum capacity he is using 350 Watts or so.

Btw, the strange thing is that the games don't actually crash as they did in XP. But vista just 'shuts' them down for some reason and then gives me some BS message that says '<Insert game here> has stopped working'.

Anyway thanks for the (possible) sollutions I am going to run FURMARK now and report back to here

2008-09-02 11:48:37

#11

jamiet757: Member; +138|6890

RDMC wrote:

I had the graphics drivers installed that came with the GPU then I installed the latest ones and my games still 'stop working' at random times.

Btw, the strange thing is that the games don't actually crash as they did in XP. But vista just 'shuts' them down for some reason and then gives me some BS message that says '<Insert game here> has stopped working'.

Right there is your problem, run Driver Cleaner and get rid of your drivers, then install ONLY the new ones. Why you would install the ones that came with it, then the latest ones over top of that is beyond me. Anytime you upgrade your drivers, you need to completely remove the old ones (not just by uninstalling them either)

Also, that is what happens when something crashes in Vista, it just has a more user-friendly way of telling you what happened.

Last edited by jamiet757 (2008-09-02 11:49:47)

2008-09-02 11:59:22

#12

RDMC: Enemy Wheelbarrow Spotted..!!; +736|6833|Area 51

jamiet757 wrote:
RDMC wrote:

I had the graphics drivers installed that came with the GPU then I installed the latest ones and my games still 'stop working' at random times.

Btw, the strange thing is that the games don't actually crash as they did in XP. But vista just 'shuts' them down for some reason and then gives me some BS message that says '<Insert game here> has stopped working'.
Right there is your problem, run Driver Cleaner and get rid of your drivers, then install ONLY the new ones. Why you would install the ones that came with it, then the latest ones over top of that is beyond me. Anytime you upgrade your drivers, you need to completely remove the old ones (not just by uninstalling them either)

Also, that is what happens when something crashes in Vista, it just has a more user-friendly way of telling you what happened.

Oh misunderstanding. I did re uninstall the older ones before I installed the newer ones. I meant to say that with both the 'older drivers' that came with the CD and the newest drivers the games still keep 'crashing'

As for Furmark. I did the Benchmark and I got 5238 o3Marks
Min: 38
Max: 61
Avg: 44

Also did the stability test for a bit and it ran fine. Will do a longer test tomorrow.

Last edited by RDMC (2008-09-02 12:05:21)

2008-09-02 12:16:54

#13

motherdear: Member; +25|6919|Denmark/Minnesota (depends)

i got exactly the same problem as you m8, except that my pc is a laptop. i don't have any problems in XP but i'm not sure that this is a problem with the psu as everybody else since this has been a problem for a lot of people using vista.

2008-09-02 12:24:55

#14

Freezer7Pro: I don't come here a lot anymore.; +1,447|6465|Winland

RDMC wrote:
jamiet757 wrote:
RDMC wrote:

I had the graphics drivers installed that came with the GPU then I installed the latest ones and my games still 'stop working' at random times.

Btw, the strange thing is that the games don't actually crash as they did in XP. But vista just 'shuts' them down for some reason and then gives me some BS message that says '<Insert game here> has stopped working'.
Right there is your problem, run Driver Cleaner and get rid of your drivers, then install ONLY the new ones. Why you would install the ones that came with it, then the latest ones over top of that is beyond me. Anytime you upgrade your drivers, you need to completely remove the old ones (not just by uninstalling them either)

Also, that is what happens when something crashes in Vista, it just has a more user-friendly way of telling you what happened.
Oh misunderstanding. I did re uninstall the older ones before I installed the newer ones. I meant to say that with both the 'older drivers' that came with the CD and the newest drivers the games still keep 'crashing'

As for Furmark. I did the Benchmark and I got 5238 o3Marks
Min: 38
Max: 61
Avg: 44

Also did the stability test for a bit and it ran fine. Will do a longer test tomorrow.

Run it in stability test mode. If it fails at any point, it's something hardware-related.

The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP

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