Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,822|6525|eXtreme to the maX
Israeli soldiers in the occupied West Bank have shot and wounded a mentally disabled Palestinian man during a raid on his house, medical officials say.

The incident happened late on Sunday in the village of Nilin.
Awad Srur, 41, was hit in the face with three rubber-coated bullets, causing him to lose an eye, medics said.

The Israeli military says Mr Srur attacked soldiers who were arresting his brother and tried to grab one of their rifles before he was shot.

Mr Srur's son Muhammad said he tried to persuade the soldiers not to open fire because of his father's mental condition.
"My father was shouting at them in order to stop them. I told the soldiers that my father was mentally challenged and they should not pay attention to him," Muhammad Srur, 20, said.

The Israeli army said the rubber-coated bullets were fired in accordance with its rules of engagement.

Nilin is the scene of regular protests against construction of Israel's barrier in the West Bank, which will cut the village off from large sections of its farmland.
Israel says the barrier is necessary to prevent Palestinian militant attacks, but Palestinians see it as part of an Israeli effort to expropriate occupied land.

During violent protests in late July, Israeli security forces shot and killed a 12-year-old boy and a 16-year-old in Nilin within a few days of each other.
http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7592389.stm
Two sides to the story here, which do you believe?

Last edited by Dilbert_X (2008-09-03 01:13:53)

Fuck Israel
Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
+874|7094|Canberra, AUS
why don't they just build it ON THE BORDER so it's in no-one's country?
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
+1,182|6830|'Murka

Where's the broader context? Why was the house raided? Clearly the man wasn't the target of the raid.

What was going on when the two children were shot?

The lack of reporting of the facts surrounding these events is ridiculous, but not uncommon.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein

Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,822|6525|eXtreme to the maX
Why don't you run off and find an excuse for shooting two children dead and a disabled man three times in the face?
Fuck Israel
M.O.A.B
'Light 'em up!'
+1,220|6642|Escea

Right so if you entered a house, a guy runs at you and tries to take your gun, you gonna give him it? When he was shouting about the mental condition it could have been a cover for all they knew at the time. Take risks like that and you can end up dead.
Icleos
Member
+101|7162
A non-lethal take down yet they shot him in the face...

Last edited by Icleos (2008-09-03 08:33:14)

SgtHeihn
Should have ducked
+394|6906|Ham Lake, MN (Fucking Cold)

M.O.A.B wrote:

Right so if you entered a house, a guy runs at you and tries to take your gun, you gonna give him it? When he was shouting about the mental condition it could have been a cover for all they knew at the time. Take risks like that and you can end up dead.
Hey, armchair generals, FTW.

Icleos wrote:

A non-lethal take down yet they shot him in the face...
He is lucky they didn't shoot him with a lethal bullet in the face.

Last edited by SgtHeihn (2008-09-03 08:42:00)

jord
Member
+2,382|7098|The North, beyond the wall.

SgtHeihn wrote:

M.O.A.B wrote:

Right so if you entered a house, a guy runs at you and tries to take your gun, you gonna give him it? When he was shouting about the mental condition it could have been a cover for all they knew at the time. Take risks like that and you can end up dead.
Hey, armchair generals, FTW.

Icleos wrote:

A non-lethal take down yet they shot him in the face...
He is lucky they didn't shoot him with a lethal bullet in the face.
I'm an armchair NCO please.

Double taps make sure the baddies are dead ok?
M.O.A.B
'Light 'em up!'
+1,220|6642|Escea

SgtHeihn wrote:

M.O.A.B wrote:

Right so if you entered a house, a guy runs at you and tries to take your gun, you gonna give him it? When he was shouting about the mental condition it could have been a cover for all they knew at the time. Take risks like that and you can end up dead.
Hey, armchair generals, FTW.

Icleos wrote:

A non-lethal take down yet they shot him in the face...
He is lucky they didn't shoot him with a lethal bullet in the face.
Makes me feel special tbh
usmarine
Banned
+2,785|7181

boom headshot
SgtHeihn
Should have ducked
+394|6906|Ham Lake, MN (Fucking Cold)
You gotta love the guys who were never their and admit they will never put themselves in that sort of situation(military) are the ones who scream brutality and are the first to pass judgment?

Dilbert, when I was in Iraq and we were raiding a house if some Iraqi tried to grab my rifle and attack me, your damn right I would have shot him.
That retard is lucky he is alive, with the 2 "children", I use the term loosely, 16 is not a child. What was the whole situation in which they were shot?
Was it a peaceful protest? Was it a riot, where rocks and fire bombs being thrown?

Get over your blind hatred for Israel and see that both sides are the fucking problem, if Hamas wanted peace they would have worked for it.
Beduin
Compensation of Reactive Power in the grid
+510|6170|شمال
Fuck the Israeli Army
They will get fucked soon. I grantee!
الشعب يريد اسقاط النظام
...show me the schematic
jord
Member
+2,382|7098|The North, beyond the wall.

Beduin wrote:

Fuck the Israeli Army
They will get fucked soon. I grantee!
Define "soon".
SgtHeihn
Should have ducked
+394|6906|Ham Lake, MN (Fucking Cold)

jord wrote:

Beduin wrote:

Fuck the Israeli Army
They will get fucked soon. I grantee!
Define "soon".
https://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t208/WingMan0519/squaresbig/islam.jpg
Beduin
Compensation of Reactive Power in the grid
+510|6170|شمال

jord wrote:

Beduin wrote:

Fuck the Israeli Army
They will get fucked soon. I grantee!
Define "soon".
Well... you cant suppress people forever, can you?
الشعب يريد اسقاط النظام
...show me the schematic
jord
Member
+2,382|7098|The North, beyond the wall.

Beduin wrote:

jord wrote:

Beduin wrote:

Fuck the Israeli Army
They will get fucked soon. I grantee!
Define "soon".
Well... you cant suppress people forever, can you?
If your military is 20 time better then yes.
SgtHeihn
Should have ducked
+394|6906|Ham Lake, MN (Fucking Cold)

Beduin wrote:

jord wrote:

Beduin wrote:

Fuck the Israeli Army
They will get fucked soon. I grantee!
Define "soon".
Well... you cant suppress people forever, can you?
Yeah you  can, look at the Turks with the Armenians. They knocked off like 4 million of them and got away with it.


Oh and Beduin, it looks like that guy in your sig is about to suck someone off.

Last edited by SgtHeihn (2008-09-03 09:18:27)

Beduin
Compensation of Reactive Power in the grid
+510|6170|شمال

jord wrote:

Beduin wrote:

jord wrote:


Define "soon".
Well... you cant suppress people forever, can you?
If your military is 20 time better then yes.
Nothing to do with the size ot the tech... sadly.
الشعب يريد اسقاط النظام
...show me the schematic
SgtHeihn
Should have ducked
+394|6906|Ham Lake, MN (Fucking Cold)

Beduin wrote:

jord wrote:

Beduin wrote:


Well... you cant suppress people forever, can you?
If your military is 20 time better then yes.
Nothing to do with the size ot the tech... sadly.
So what you are saying is that it is ok for the Palestinians to suicide bomb and rocket Israel?
Beduin
Compensation of Reactive Power in the grid
+510|6170|شمال

SgtHeihn wrote:

Beduin wrote:

jord wrote:


If your military is 20 time better then yes.
Nothing to do with the size ot the tech... sadly.
So what you are saying is that it is ok for the Palestinians to suicide bomb and rocket Israel?
I hear a dog barking somewhere... where does it come from?
الشعب يريد اسقاط النظام
...show me the schematic
Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|7041|London, England
Beduin, where abouts are you posting from? (what country)
Lotta_Drool
Spit
+350|6603|Ireland
Hamas would just be strapping a bomb to the Retarded guy anyway and the kids should be beheaded for aiding the infidels by not supporting his father during Jihad.

Fucking Islamic lightwieghts, they are not even good enough to be blown up for Allah.
Braddock
Agitator
+916|6710|Éire

FEOS wrote:

Where's the broader context? Why was the house raided? Clearly the man wasn't the target of the raid.

What was going on when the two children were shot?

The lack of reporting of the facts surrounding these events is ridiculous, but not uncommon.
I'm not justifying HAMAS strikes on civilian areas but it would be argued that the 'context' of their attacks is Israeli oppression and incidents of heavy handedness such as this, but no one ever seems concerned about 'context' when it's innocent Israelis who are harmed... it's immediately an outrage.

But when Palestinians are injured and killed the 'context' immediately becomes very important so as the Israelis can be cleared of blame in some way.
Braddock
Agitator
+916|6710|Éire

jord wrote:

Beduin wrote:

jord wrote:


Define "soon".
Well... you cant suppress people forever, can you?
If your military is 20 time better then yes.
You can't suppress people forever, the British army was probably about 20 times better than the IRA in terms of equipment and size but it didn't enable the UK to hold onto the 26 counties.

Unless you ethnically cleanse an area then the people will rise up eventually.
Pug
UR father's brother's nephew's former roommate
+652|6962|Texas - Bigger than France
Well, look at the bright side.

At least it wasn't an unguided missile or a suicide bomber in a populated area.

Yeah, we get it.  It sucks.

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