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2008-09-02 17:11:18
Uzique
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This may be a shot in the dark on this Forum but anyway...

I currently subscribe to a few national newspapers and like to read a whole lot of news from a wide-range of sources. I'm considering changing up my spectrum a little for my next 12 month's of subscription and I was hoping maybe some opinions from you guys could enlighten me somewhat. Of course every large newspaper publication has a 'reputation' and a general image that they uphold or promote- and I'd like to find out how you guys see it, and consequently what are the papers of your preference.

For the UK / European posters I'd like purely national tabloids/broadsheets please: The Guardian, Independant, Times, Sun, Daily Sport... whatever you please. For the purpose of the Americans of course larger papers such as the New York Times or the Boston Globe count as well because they're basically nationally-circulated papers anyway. I'm primarily interested in finding out what you perceive is the:

- Political affiliation / leanings of the paper;
- The image / reputation / broad appeal of the paper;
- Any special attitudes or values (e.g. one paper could be seen as sympathetic to the feminist cause);
- Worthiness of said paper and reliability (make this out of 10 if you will).

So basically I'd really appreciate it if you could just list all of the national / large newspapers that you read / have read and give your opinion on them based on above criteria (and anything else you feel should be added). This thread isn't only to serve the purpose of helping to decide my next subscription, it's also a good way of compiling and correlating everyone's opinions on our own favourite sensationalist, hype-mongering propaganda spreaders.

Karma for those that give helpful and insightful responses !

Note: Please keep online sources or small community-based papers out; it's too hard to correlate opinions and the views of this 'survey' if everyone responds with such a hugely varied and wide selection. It's just easier to get a good general idea if people stick to the main well-known publications.

Last edited by Uzique (2008-09-02 17:13:23)

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2008-09-02 17:15:15
God Save the Queen
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By the time you get a newspaper in front of your eyes, all the news thats happened is old already.
2008-09-02 17:24:25
AussieReaper
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Australia's two main newspapers are the Daily Telegraph and the Sydney Morning Herald, both of which try to represent both sides of the political spectrum evenly.

However, it's when you get down to the columnists and political commentators that a bias is easy to notice.

For example, the Daily Telegraph has one writer, Piers Ackerman, who is extremely right wing. Almost to a laughable degree. You can do a search for him a wikipedia and read that "Akerman is a climate-change skeptic who argues fiercely against any suggestion as to human-driven global warming, although he has no credible background or knowledge in the relevant sciences."

I am surprised that most of his drivel is actually allowed past the editor.

That said though, it is fairly easy to spot his political leanings. An article yesterday was blindly praising Palin,

Have a look at the following article of his which made it to print:

http://blogs.news.com.au/dailytelegraph … president/

I think once you have knowledge of who is writing the articles with some background information on the journalist, it's much easier to have an understanding of what the real issues are. Without buying into the very one sided opinions of writers such as this one most News sources try to keep an even balance.
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2008-09-02 17:43:39
Uzique
dasein.
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God Save the Queen wrote:

By the time you get a newspaper in front of your eyes, all the news thats happened is old already.
How profound!

Well no shit. But if the best that I can do is have yesterday's or the day-before's news in front of my face when I eat breakfast in the morning, then so be it... I'll take that option. Better than being completely uninformed altogether, is it not?

I'm particularly interested in reading the opinions of fellow British posters here - as well as any American posters - considering how clearly driven some of our papers are towards a certain agenda or affiliation.
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2008-09-02 17:44:16
God Save the Queen
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the UK is very small.  The USA is very big.
2008-09-02 17:49:07
Uzique
dasein.
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God Save the Queen wrote:

the UK is very small.  The USA is very big.
Hence me saying I want to hear what people make of city-based newspapers in the US examples, whereas I only want national newspapers from the Brits .

Geographical differences aside I think that both of our nation's mainstream media panders to the same general idea, and aligns itself with the same few political parties. But this big picture isn't what I'm overly interested in damn it, I just want some recommendations for a few good newspapers that represent 2-3 different sides of the spectrum in a professional and well-written manner!
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2008-09-02 17:51:09
God Save the Queen
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well the local paper in my town is very left leaning.  democrat town.  but they have a few members of their staff that you might call moderate.

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2008-09-02 23:39:55
kylef
Gone
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I find FT (Financial Times) quite interesting. Its main recurring articles at the minute are only those related to Obama/McCain or the whole credit crisis. The sources seem reputable and certainly I have read the same things elsewhere online (Reuters etc)

Try it out I'm pretty sure it is £1.30 for the weekday edition and £2.00 for the weekend edition (although if you have a Students' Union you should be able to get it for much less ... I'm not even in a student and it get it for 40p/60p respectively - which really does make it great value)
2008-09-03 01:23:06
Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
+874|7131|Canberra, AUS

TheAussieReaper wrote:

Australia's two main newspapers are the Daily Telegraph and the Sydney Morning Herald, both of which try to represent both sides of the political spectrum evenly.

However, it's when you get down to the columnists and political commentators that a bias is easy to notice.

For example, the Daily Telegraph has one writer, Piers Ackerman, who is extremely right wing. Almost to a laughable degree. You can do a search for him a wikipedia and read that "Akerman is a climate-change skeptic who argues fiercely against any suggestion as to human-driven global warming, although he has no credible background or knowledge in the relevant sciences."

I am surprised that most of his drivel is actually allowed past the editor.

That said though, it is fairly easy to spot his political leanings. An article yesterday was blindly praising Palin,

Have a look at the following article of his which made it to print:

http://blogs.news.com.au/dailytelegraph … president/

I think once you have knowledge of who is writing the articles with some background information on the journalist, it's much easier to have an understanding of what the real issues are. Without buying into the very one sided opinions of writers such as this one most News sources try to keep an even balance.
If you want more intelligent, moderate right-wing journalism, the Australian is good.
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2008-09-03 01:57:16
Jrdeacs
Member
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TheAussieReaper wrote:

Australia's two main newspapers are the Daily Telegraph and the Sydney Morning Herald, both of which try to represent both sides of the political spectrum evenly.

However, it's when you get down to the columnists and political commentators that a bias is easy to notice.

For example, the Daily Telegraph has one writer, Piers Ackerman, who is extremely right wing. Almost to a laughable degree. You can do a search for him a wikipedia and read that "Akerman is a climate-change skeptic who argues fiercely against any suggestion as to human-driven global warming, although he has no credible background or knowledge in the relevant sciences."

I am surprised that most of his drivel is actually allowed past the editor.

That said though, it is fairly easy to spot his political leanings. An article yesterday was blindly praising Palin,

Have a look at the following article of his which made it to print:

http://blogs.news.com.au/dailytelegraph … president/

I think once you have knowledge of who is writing the articles with some background information on the journalist, it's much easier to have an understanding of what the real issues are. Without buying into the very one sided opinions of writers such as this one most News sources try to keep an even balance.
2008-09-03 01:57:43
..teddy..jimmy
Member
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Whenever I'm in England I usually read The Times, The Guardian and the FT. I'd say all these three newspapers are well respected and avoid any tabloid crap. They address their points sensibly and all articles are well written imo.

We also subscribe to The Economist which has some very interesting and fresh ideas/articles.
2008-09-03 02:13:27
Mint Sauce
Frighteningly average
+780|6742|eng
If I want a laugh, I read the Daily Mail, that paper is a joke, otherwise I just read what my Dad does; The Independent, The Economist and Fuel Oil News. Good to know what is going on in the world of Oil.
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2008-09-03 07:01:42
kylef
Gone
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..teddy..jimmy wrote:

Whenever I'm in England I usually read The Times, The Guardian and the FT. I'd say all these three newspapers are well respected and avoid any tabloid crap. They address their points sensibly and all articles are well written imo.

We also subscribe to The Economist which has some very interesting and fresh ideas/articles.
The Economist is great (especially as I study Economics) but it can be really boring sometime. That's why I like FT - there's the occasional (respectable) humour too. Although The Economist is still pretty great!
2008-09-03 07:30:23
Uzique
dasein.
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kylef wrote:

..teddy..jimmy wrote:

Whenever I'm in England I usually read The Times, The Guardian and the FT. I'd say all these three newspapers are well respected and avoid any tabloid crap. They address their points sensibly and all articles are well written imo.

We also subscribe to The Economist which has some very interesting and fresh ideas/articles.
The Economist is great (especially as I study Economics) but it can be really boring sometime. That's why I like FT - there's the occasional (respectable) humour too. Although The Economist is still pretty great!
You study Economics or you're about to start? Economics at GCSE is basically a throwaway introduction-subject .

The business-orientated papers are generally more realistic and less sensationalist. I guess in that respect you could regard them as 'boring' as such. They have to keep an element of realism and straight-reporting though; after all their main customer base and people they're selling to normally buy the paper to inform them on or of important financial decisions. People that buy the FT or the Economist want to be told things straight so that they can be more well-informed when they make important decisions as to what to do with their money .

What do you Brits/Euros generally prefer: The Guardian, The Observer, The Independant, The Times or The Daily Express? They provide a pretty wide-range of the political spectrum in a range of generally more middle-upmarket formats (e.g. Berliner, Compact, Broadsheet).

Last edited by Uzique (2008-09-03 07:31:02)

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2008-09-03 07:33:15
kylef
Gone
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Uzique wrote:

kylef wrote:

..teddy..jimmy wrote:

Whenever I'm in England I usually read The Times, The Guardian and the FT. I'd say all these three newspapers are well respected and avoid any tabloid crap. They address their points sensibly and all articles are well written imo.

We also subscribe to The Economist which has some very interesting and fresh ideas/articles.
The Economist is great (especially as I study Economics) but it can be really boring sometime. That's why I like FT - there's the occasional (respectable) humour too. Although The Economist is still pretty great!
You study Economics or you're about to start? Economics at GCSE is basically a throwaway introduction-subject .

The business-orientated papers are generally more realistic and less sensationalist. I guess in that respect you could regard them as 'boring' as such. They have to keep an element of realism and straight-reporting though; after all their main customer base and people they're selling to normally buy the paper to inform them on or of important financial decisions. People that buy the FT or the Economist want to be told things straight so that they can be more well-informed when they make important decisions as to what to do with their money .

What do you Brits/Euros generally prefer: The Guardian, The Observer, The Independant, The Times or The Daily Express? They provide a pretty wide-range of the political spectrum in a range of generally more middle-upmarket formats (e.g. Berliner, Compact, Broadsheet).
I study Economics at A level at the minute As for that list, I'm a The Times guy myself!
2008-09-03 07:33:44
FatherTed
xD
+3,936|6956|so randum
i read german news.
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2008-09-03 07:35:38
God Save the Queen
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FatherTed wrote:

i read german news.
in german?
2008-09-03 07:36:39
FatherTed
xD
+3,936|6956|so randum

God Save the Queen wrote:

FatherTed wrote:

i read german news.
in german?
ja, naturlich.

cba with umlauts.
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Use an umbrella
2008-09-03 07:39:28
Noobeater
Northern numpty
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I personally prefer The Guardian as its pretty independant of all the political parties and generally tells the news as it is without putting any spin on it. I think of it as the BBC of newspapers. I think The Times is also good but its a bit dull whilst The Guardian generally has a more laid back "Right this is whats happening today" feel to it.
2008-09-03 08:14:34
Uzique
dasein.
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Noobeater wrote:

I personally prefer The Guardian as its pretty independant of all the political parties and generally tells the news as it is without putting any spin on it. I think of it as the BBC of newspapers. I think The Times is also good but its a bit dull whilst The Guardian generally has a more laid back "Right this is whats happening today" feel to it.
Ironically, 'The Independant' is supposed to represent the independant interests of the people, whilst The Guardian's ethos is the protection of citizen's democratic rights and right to fair and unbiased news. The Guardian definitely does stick to said company-statement a lot more closely than The Independant nowadays. I also like The Guardian because of the Berliner format... not too big but not to be mistaken with a tabloid .

Keep the input and your favourites coming, always interesting to see where people get their news from and why .
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2008-09-03 08:44:47
..teddy..jimmy
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Is The Guardian owned by Rupert Murdoch?
2008-09-03 08:49:09
God Save the Queen
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dont all you limies here complain about how guardian is nothing but gutter news?

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2008-09-03 09:11:19
Uzique
dasein.
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God Save the Queen wrote:

dont all you limies here complain about how guardian is nothing but gutter news?
The Sun and other such tabloids such as the News of the World are gutter news. They're often regarded as nothing more than entertainment; sensationalist publications with not much real 'news' at all. The Guardian is actually pretty respectable as far as the scale goes. Funnily enough The Sun is owned by the likes of Rupert Murdoch.
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