Meh, sounded like more of the same boring crap if you ask me. I only watched a little of the end though.Stingray24 wrote:
Sarah kicked some butt in her speech tonight. McCain made the right choice.
Then you missed the good part ...
Mhm, I found the beginning of her speech to be somewhat refreshing while I thought the latter part of her speech was exactly what you'd expect from a politician.
The attack on the "bridge to nowhere" seemed a little stupid.
They are talking about a small demographic "Iowa’s evangelicals". It also says 30-50 percent according to AP (which I cant find directly from AP).Harmor wrote:
Associated PressKmarion wrote:
You've got a percentage from an unnamed source. It must be accurate.Harmor wrote:
To the 30% Christian conservatives...a good chunk of those No because of his social issues and, sad to say, his Mormonism; to fiscal conservatives, probably.
Source: http://www.christianpost.com/article/20 … -issue.htm
Protip: Stay away from the religious websites if you want an unbiased opinion.
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Maybe it says something about how I am about needing something positive sounding about our nation, but I thought her speech was kick ass.
She did great.
You guys should have seen the after party though.
For those that missed it: http://stormsurge.us/oe/index.php?optio … ;Itemid=61
You guys should have seen the after party though.
For those that missed it: http://stormsurge.us/oe/index.php?optio … ;Itemid=61
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Surprise.Kmarion wrote:
Maybe she will surprise me tommorow night..
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I heard most of it, cringed through most of it. She spewed the same crap about McBush being a war hero in Nam. How she was the governor of piss cold Alaska and how her extensive executive duties included the crucial decisions of having the local potluck at the Whatchumacall Community Center, or Moe's Tavern.Ajax_the_Great1 wrote:
Meh, sounded like more of the same boring crap if you ask me. I only watched a little of the end though.Stingray24 wrote:
Sarah kicked some butt in her speech tonight. McCain made the right choice.
She still loves me even after this topic..lol
Still not sold tbh.
Still not sold tbh.
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But will it be less than the people driven off?War Man wrote:
Actually many conservatives are going to vote for McCain because of his vp pick, if McCain went for Romney many people would be staying at home.Spark wrote:
That was a baaaaaaaaaaad move by McCain. Like, really baaaaaaaaad. Not because I don't like the republicans, but really. It was just dumb.
Seriously, what was wrong with choosing a strong candidate like Romney? Choose someone who backs your strengths, not go for a cheap political play and disregard the drawbacks.
And why has lowing suddenly become obsessed with Oprah? Really odd.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
~ Richard Feynman
Even Hillary's old supporters who originally didn't go for McCain will vote for him. Don't know what you mean about Oprah though.Spark wrote:
But will it be less than the people driven off?War Man wrote:
Actually many conservatives are going to vote for McCain because of his vp pick, if McCain went for Romney many people would be staying at home.Spark wrote:
That was a baaaaaaaaaaad move by McCain. Like, really baaaaaaaaad. Not because I don't like the republicans, but really. It was just dumb.
Seriously, what was wrong with choosing a strong candidate like Romney? Choose someone who backs your strengths, not go for a cheap political play and disregard the drawbacks.
And why has lowing suddenly become obsessed with Oprah? Really odd.
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The irony of guns, is that they can save lives.
Where do you get your figures from? Are there concrete polls that shows the more conservatives are voting McCain because of the VP pick?War Man wrote:
Even Hillary's old supporters who originally didn't go for McCain will vote for him. Don't know what you mean about Oprah though.Spark wrote:
But will it be less than the people driven off?War Man wrote:
Actually many conservatives are going to vote for McCain because of his vp pick, if McCain went for Romney many people would be staying at home.
And why has lowing suddenly become obsessed with Oprah? Really odd.
Is there evidence that shows that Hilary's old supporters are going to McCain? Or are you pulling these claims from the bottom of the well of lost hope?
The attack on the "bridge to nowhere" seemed a little stupid.
This seems relevant...considering the massive flip-flop she did on it. I don't think she is a reformer as much as a political opportunist.
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Sounds familiar. You'd have to be a fool to actually think that all of the candidate weren't "political opportunist"nukchebi0 wrote:
The attack on the "bridge to nowhere" seemed a little stupid.
This seems relevant...considering the massive flip-flop she did on it. I don't think she is a reformer as much as a political opportunist.
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Oh, of course. I wasn't exonerating Obama at all. I'm just pointing out that Palin has changed her issues in order to suit whatever the general mentality is of her constituency. In her mayoral race, stressing the socially conservative issues in a town that is/was mostly Christian or turning Christian. In 2006, and now, she ran against corruption and pork. But her actions don't necessarily reflect what she says...she did support the "Bridge to Nowhere", after all. It is the most egregious example of pork in recent memory.Kmarion wrote:
Sounds familiar. You'd have to be a fool to actually think that all of the candidate weren't "political opportunist"nukchebi0 wrote:
The attack on the "bridge to nowhere" seemed a little stupid.
This seems relevant...considering the massive flip-flop she did on it. I don't think she is a reformer as much as a political opportunist.
They all do it. I'd start listing Obama's flips but it's just too damn easy.nukchebi0 wrote:
Oh, of course. I wasn't exonerating Obama at all. I'm just pointing out that Palin has changed her issues in order to suit whatever the general mentality is of her constituency. In her mayoral race, stressing the socially conservative issues in a town that is/was mostly Christian or turning Christian. In 2006, and now, she ran against corruption and pork. But her actions don't necessarily reflect what she says...she did support the "Bridge to Nowhere", after all. It is the most egregious example of pork in recent memory.Kmarion wrote:
Sounds familiar. You'd have to be a fool to actually think that all of the candidate weren't "political opportunist"nukchebi0 wrote:
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Holy crap.Sarah admitted that she hadn’t paid much attention to the war in Iraq, but she knew enough to rightly call it a “task from God.”
I did, thats me she's describing.You guys should have seen the after party though.
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Fuck Israel
Did she really say "task from God" ???
Wait behind the line ..............................................................
I figured that too ... reminds me of The West Wing in Season 6. A lot of Palin's views seem less republican-esque than I thought they would, some of what she says does make a lot of sense. But there's a reason she's a VP contender and Obama is a P contender. Regardless, it could give Palin something to work on in 4/8 years if she wants to expand.Kmarion wrote:
Maybe Romney didn't want it. That's the only thing I can think of.
lol, a Palin / Clinton campaign ... that would be something
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Holy crap.Sarah admitted that she hadn’t paid much attention to the war in Iraq, but she knew enough to rightly call it a “task from God.”
Did she actually say that?
Sometimes I wonder just how different some of these people are to the nutjobs in the Iranian government
so all the people here that like palin are also against abortion in all cases, creationism being taught in school, believe that the United States is on a mission from god in a iraq, dont believe global warming is being caused by man and believe people in high positions of government can use their authority for activites that are outside of the law? just checking.
yesMek-Stizzle wrote:
wtfDilbert_X wrote:
Holy crap.Sarah admitted that she hadn’t paid much attention to the war in Iraq, but she knew enough to rightly call it a “task from God.”
Did she actually say that?
Sometimes I wonder just how different some of these people are to the nutjobs in the Iranian government
there is no difference. the same people that talk about how sharia law is ruling the middle east fail to see the direct parallel with christianity in the United States.
I'm sure I can find the middleground somewhere.God Save the Queen wrote:
so all the people here that like palin are also against abortion in all cases, creationism being taught in school, believe that the United States is on a mission from god in a iraq, dont believe global warming is being caused by man and believe people in high positions of government can use their authority for activites that are outside of the law? just checking.
I'll try this wearing a "I support Palin hat" and see how I go.
I am against abortion, but only after 3 months of conception. Before then the fetus cannot feel pain.
Creationism should be an option. I want my Government to uphold my rights and freedom to choose what I am taught. Creationism is also to strong a word, I want Intelligent Design taught. There is a huge difference.
The United States is not on a mission from God in Iraq, but we are there to spread the faith of the Lord just as Saint Paul courageously had before us..
Global warming has never been proven. It's all part of the natural Earth cycle. We've had Ice Ages before. And stages the planet warms up. This time it's warming again.
Those in high positions should be above most laws, how else could they enforce them?
If I wasnt voting for Obama already I would be now.