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Poll

Has the State overstepped its bounds?

F'N Florida's hot! Lemme' walk naked in the streets!0%0% - 0
YES. The state has no place in attire regulation28%28% - 6
Yes. I can see nudity laws, but c'mon!38%38% - 8
No. There's a line, and it's drawn above his ankles23%23% - 5
NO! OFF TO GITMO! He's probably hiding a bomb! (FU)9%9% - 2
Total: 21
2008-09-03 21:16:15
13rin
Member
+977|6899
I was there for this bill and was kinda wondering who would be arrested under this law.  The Senators really had fun with the bill and Senator Siplin.
Bill:
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/news_p … ggy-p.html


Arrest Report:
I got the site from Drudge (you know you go there too)
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/ye … ants1.html

Last edited by DBBrinson1 (2008-09-03 21:18:12)

I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something.  - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
2008-09-03 21:40:03
S.Lythberg
Mastermind
+429|6866|Chicago, IL
Wear a belt dumbass
2008-09-03 22:48:42
Adamvs
Member
+3|6146|England
I say if the guy wants to look like a complete muppet, who cant even figure out what a belt is supposed to do and how it works then let him trip over himself like the fool he is

The police should have a secret humiliation dept. where they get plain clothes officers to laugh at people who dress like that till they feel embarrassed and go get a belt. Also they could be followed by belt salesmen who then sell belts to them and in turn sponsor the police dept from their profit rise . this will then increase money available for police and the police will have more money to spend on crime fighting. America would be crime free in no time.
2008-09-04 01:06:24
PureFodder
Member
+225|6705
fashion police!
2008-09-04 04:50:49
Adamvs
Member
+3|6146|England
yeah, fashion police could do the job as long as its within their jurisdiction. Does anyone have their number? lol
2008-09-04 05:09:42
13rin
Member
+977|6899
A senator introduced an amendment to the bill on the floor that exempted plumbers.
I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something.  - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
2008-09-04 07:26:15
Agent_Dung_Bomb
Member
+302|7156|Salt Lake City

It should be up to the local school boards to determine what attire is/isn't appropriate for school and handle the issue accordingly.  The state government shouldn't be wasting its time with such issues.
2008-09-04 07:39:44
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6949|Global Command
If they don't know how to wear pants they should be arrested.
2008-09-04 07:46:24
ghettoperson
Member
+1,943|7069

ATG wrote:

If they don't know how to wear pants they should be arrested.
What the fuck are you on about? Seems kinda hypocritical for the amount you go on about not wanting any government interference in your life. The government should have no say in what you can or cannot wear. Are they going to tell girls that show the world their thongs when they bend over that they aren't allowed to wear thongs?

And since when was having your ass hanging out considered showing a 'sexual organ'?

EDIT: I missed the fact that this was at schools, in which case I think it's up to the school to determine what they want the students to wear.

Last edited by ghettoperson (2008-09-04 07:52:06)

2008-09-04 07:47:03
13rin
Member
+977|6899

Agent_Dung_Bomb wrote:

It should be up to the local school boards to determine what attire is/isn't appropriate for school and handle the issue accordingly.  The state government shouldn't be wasting its time with such issues.
That was an argument against the bill.  The answer for that if I remember correctly was that there needed to be a guideline for the schools to all follow uniformly

@ATG - Ha, bit a extreme -but I bet I'd solve that "problem" overnight.
I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something.  - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
2008-09-04 07:50:38
13rin
Member
+977|6899

ghettoperson wrote:

ATG wrote:

If they don't know how to wear pants they should be arrested.
What the fuck are you on about? Seems kinda hypocritical for the amount you go on about not wanting any government interference in your life. The government should have no say in what you can or cannot wear. Are they going to tell girls that show the world their thongs when they bend over that they aren't allowed to wear thongs?

And since when was having your ass hanging out considered showing a 'sexual organ'?
In Florida apparently that was 07-08 legislative session.  I dunno if there is a "glitch" bill to compensate for women...

Apparently, the low slung trowsers originated in prisons.  An inmate would wear his pants down low to show the other inmates that he was open for business.  I'd bet if that little tidbit was made a bit more common knowledge....
I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something.  - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
2008-09-04 08:46:10
The#1Spot
Member
+105|6959|byah
My High School (Florida) even bitches about sleeveless shirts. Even if the band (part that goes over the shoulder) is over 3in thick. I still wear them anyways. I am not wearing a shirt in 90F + weather with 100% humidity. Most of the classrooms AC didnt even work. I agree that pants hanging at the knees is ridiculous but loose fitting clothing dissipates heat more effectively.

Last edited by The#1Spot (2008-09-04 08:49:31)

2008-09-04 09:05:21
chittydog
less busy
+586|7255|Kubra, Damn it!

The#1Spot wrote:

My High School (Florida) even bitches about sleeveless shirts. Even if the band (part that goes over the shoulder) is over 3in thick. I still wear them anyways. I am not wearing a shirt in 90F + weather with 100% humidity. Most of the classrooms AC didnt even work. I agree that pants hanging at the knees is ridiculous but loose fitting clothing dissipates heat more effectively.
Sleeveless shirts are for the beach and the gym. You look like a douche if you wear them anywhere else, but it's your right to look like a douche if you want. Unless you're in school or at work, then it's their right to make dress code policy.
2008-09-04 09:13:57
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+2,072|7191|PNW

ghettoperson wrote:

ATG wrote:

If they don't know how to wear pants they should be arrested.
1What the fuck are you on about? Seems kinda hypocritical for the amount you go on about not wanting any government interference in your life. The government should have no say in what you can or cannot wear. Are they going to tell girls that show the world their thongs when they bend over that they aren't allowed to wear thongs?

2And since when was having your ass hanging out considered showing a 'sexual organ'?

EDIT: I missed the fact that this was at schools, in which case I think it's up to the school to determine what they want the students to wear.
1I don't want to see some teenager's greasy skivvies.
2Since Gay Day at Disneyworld.
2008-09-04 09:20:07
ghettoperson
Member
+1,943|7069

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

ghettoperson wrote:

ATG wrote:

If they don't know how to wear pants they should be arrested.
1What the fuck are you on about? Seems kinda hypocritical for the amount you go on about not wanting any government interference in your life. The government should have no say in what you can or cannot wear. Are they going to tell girls that show the world their thongs when they bend over that they aren't allowed to wear thongs?

2And since when was having your ass hanging out considered showing a 'sexual organ'?

EDIT: I missed the fact that this was at schools, in which case I think it's up to the school to determine what they want the students to wear.
1I don't want to see some teenager's greasy skivvies.
2Since Gay Day at Disneyworld.
1. Good for you. I don't want to see fat people, but sadly no one seem to go along with the idea of making them illega,
2. Thanks for the clarification.
2008-09-04 09:32:14
The#1Spot
Member
+105|6959|byah

chittydog wrote:

The#1Spot wrote:

My High School (Florida) even bitches about sleeveless shirts. Even if the band (part that goes over the shoulder) is over 3in thick. I still wear them anyways. I am not wearing a shirt in 90F + weather with 100% humidity. Most of the classrooms AC didnt even work. I agree that pants hanging at the knees is ridiculous but loose fitting clothing dissipates heat more effectively.
Sleeveless shirts are for the beach and the gym. You look like a douche if you wear them anywhere else, but it's your right to look like a douche if you want. Unless you're in school or at work, then it's their right to make dress code policy.
The words that come out of your mouth or in your instance the words you type is what makes you a douche not the clothes you wear.
2008-09-04 10:22:52
lowing
Banned
+1,662|7071|USA
The real shame is, this has to be an issue. With freedom comes responsibility and to not have enough self respect or respect for society as a whole  is a shame. However, I also feel that these people should have the right and freedom to dress any way thay want, and society IE businesses, schools, etc. should have the right to shun them and refuse service to them. The choice ultimatley being the individuals as to what is more important to them, their "self expression, or their advancment and acceptance in society.
2008-09-04 10:24:07
Ajax_the_Great1
Dropped on request
+206|7066
I'm all for a double standard. Men have to pick up their saggy pants and women can and should be encouraged to wear less, unless they're fat.

No fatties.
2008-09-04 11:51:18
chittydog
less busy
+586|7255|Kubra, Damn it!

The#1Spot wrote:

chittydog wrote:

The#1Spot wrote:

My High School (Florida) even bitches about sleeveless shirts. Even if the band (part that goes over the shoulder) is over 3in thick. I still wear them anyways. I am not wearing a shirt in 90F + weather with 100% humidity. Most of the classrooms AC didnt even work. I agree that pants hanging at the knees is ridiculous but loose fitting clothing dissipates heat more effectively.
Sleeveless shirts are for the beach and the gym. You look like a douche if you wear them anywhere else, but it's your right to look like a douche if you want. Unless you're in school or at work, then it's their right to make dress code policy.
The words that come out of your mouth or in your instance the words you type is what makes you a douche not the clothes you wear.
I agree.
But what I said was the clothes you wear (like your sleeveless shirt) can make you look like a douche. I didn't know you were one until you typed your response, proving your own words.

Last edited by chittydog (2008-09-04 11:52:24)

2008-09-04 12:46:43
oChaos.Haze
Member
+90|6858
This should go both ways.  If there's a law against pants being too low, then there should also be a law against those grandpas who wear their belt at their sternum.  Seeing an old man's ass all pressed up like that is just as offensive to me...

Last edited by oChaos.Haze (2008-09-04 12:47:43)

2008-09-04 13:04:51
ghettoperson
Member
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Whilst were at it, what about people with bad breath? It wouldn't be hard to install breath mint dispensers everywhere.
2008-09-04 13:06:45
Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6890
Soon people known as 'baggies' will have to wear little stars stitched onto their sleeves in order to help clearly identify them and their like.

Seriously, it astounds me how you'd have to drag an American kicking and screaming in order to reduce a certain 'right', but then they happily applaud as other basic human rights are stripped from them on some absurd ground or arbitrary reasoning. Your government dictating to you what you can and cannot acceptably wear? That's about as invasive, intrusive, fascist and totalitarian as any political decision gets.

Oh and the whole 'sexual obscenity' thing with the asscrack being visible is just hilarious. It sounds like something only a right-wing Neoconservative fundamentalist Christian nutjob would be offended by. Since when was the subtle hint of an asscrack on the same level as public exposure/indecency? It's an asscrack for Chrissake- get out of the Middle Ages, or just look the other way. Seems like a far simpler (and easier) solution than outlawing the stuff. Absolutely crazy, what times we live in.

And how many Fashion Police or Vogue Gestapo are going to have to be drafted in to enforce and apply this lunacy?

Last edited by Uzique (2008-09-04 13:23:07)

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2008-09-04 13:28:02
13rin
Member
+977|6899

Uzique wrote:

It sounds like something only a right-wing Neoconservative fundamentalist Christian nutjob would be offended by.
Senator Siplin, the sponsor and brain child of the Bill is a Democrat whos ethnicity is African-American.

Last edited by DBBrinson1 (2008-09-04 13:28:28)

I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something.  - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
2008-09-04 13:36:13
Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6890

DBBrinson1 wrote:

Uzique wrote:

It sounds like something only a right-wing Neoconservative fundamentalist Christian nutjob would be offended by.
Senator Siplin, the sponsor and brain child of the Bill is a Democrat whos ethnicity is African-American.
Well that still doesn't surprise me. Just because someone is African-American it doesn't mean they can't hold fundamentalist Christian morals and attitudes. Please don't get hung up on my use of the stereotype, I'm not implying only Christians would want this law introduced- it's more about demonstrating an extremist and narrowminded viewpoint. The party affiliation doesn't really distract too much from my general point - it's just a crazy and dangerous idea to promote and legislate. As soon as you let the government infract a tiny bit on one of your basic human-rights, they'll use the legal precedent that it creates to take a mile. Surely you can see this; look at crazy legislation that got whipped through the legal process such as the Patriot Act. It's all lunacy, absolute lunacy.

How do you even justify the proposal of a law to enforce a dress-code? Fashion and inviduality is all subjective; it's all a matter of personal perspective and preference. Little laws like this that only seem to impose on your rights by a miniscule iota could just as quickly be employed to turn all of the citizens into uniform and conforming clones in the future. It's not so much the specific example or the details of the people that constructed it... it's the entire principle at stake here. There is nothing democratic about imperatively telling someone what they can and cannot wear, no matter who is offended by said choice.

Last edited by Uzique (2008-09-04 13:38:59)

libertarian benefit collector - anti-academic super-intellectual. http://mixlr.com/the-little-phrase/
2008-09-04 13:45:48
Agent_Dung_Bomb
Member
+302|7156|Salt Lake City

DBBrinson1 wrote:

Agent_Dung_Bomb wrote:

It should be up to the local school boards to determine what attire is/isn't appropriate for school and handle the issue accordingly.  The state government shouldn't be wasting its time with such issues.
That was an argument against the bill.  The answer for that if I remember correctly was that there needed to be a guideline for the schools to all follow uniformly

@ATG - Ha, bit a extreme -but I bet I'd solve that "problem" overnight.
Shouldn't matter.  School districts, at least in these parts, already have different text books for teaching the same subject, different requirements for graduation (yes there are state minimums, but the filler is up to the district), and a few other things.  Why do they think they need to step in and make a uniform rule for the dress code?

Hell, it wasn't until I was a senior in high school, back in the mid '80s that they changed the dress code that even allowed us to wear shorts, and even after they changed it the shorts couldn't be more than 3" off the knee.  Do you know how hard it was back them to find long shorts!?

 

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