War Man
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Will you libs give it up, you're just jealous because Obama is most likely going to be fucked.

Edit: What I mean by that is he is going to lose

Last edited by War Man (2008-09-04 22:57:12)

The irony of guns, is that they can save lives.
Ender2309
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War Man wrote:

Will you libs give it up, you're just jealous because Obama is most likely going to be fucked.

Edit: What I mean by that is he is going to lose
probably not, actually. do some research before you spout off.

or this.

Last edited by Ender2309 (2008-09-04 23:03:21)

War Man
Australians are hermaphrodites.
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Ender2309 wrote:

War Man wrote:

Will you libs give it up, you're just jealous because Obama is most likely going to be fucked.

Edit: What I mean by that is he is going to lose
probably not, actually. do some research before you spout off.

or this.
Did you hear about Obama trying to raise $8,000,000, well he didn't quite get there. And as for Palins fundraiser, the people who worked their can't keep up with the money being given to Palin, and let me assure you it is much much more than $8,000,000

Edit: Polls mean nothing to me.

Last edited by War Man (2008-09-04 23:07:54)

The irony of guns, is that they can save lives.
Harmor
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If this is all that they can come up with Sarah Palin, with the 37 million viewers, to O'Bama's 38 million viewers should do well.

Enthusiasm for McCain jumped 20% this week...no doubt because of her.  I mean her speech will be more popular and more remembered than McCain's, a first really.

I also liked how she gave props to the women before her in politics like Hillary Clinton and Geraldine Ferraro.

Now if I could only find a bull-dog with lipstick...
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War Man wrote:

Ender2309 wrote:

War Man wrote:

Will you libs give it up, you're just jealous because Obama is most likely going to be fucked.

Edit: What I mean by that is he is going to lose
probably not, actually. do some research before you spout off.

or this.
Did you hear about Obama trying to raise $8,000,000, well he didn't quite get there. And as for Palins fundraiser, the people who worked their can't keep up with the money they are given, and let me assure you it is much much more than $8,000,000
check your facts son. he made 8 million in a single night. also, source your palin claim. I call bullshit. so does google.

how are you in any position to assure me anything?

go vote for your anti community, hypocritical team. have fun in dreamland.
Harmor
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Ender2309 wrote:

War Man wrote:

Will you libs give it up, you're just jealous because Obama is most likely going to be fucked.

Edit: What I mean by that is he is going to lose
probably not, actually. do some research before you spout off.

or this.
We'll see what those polls say by next Wednesday to see if O'Bama has kept any of his bounce.
Ender2309
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Harmor wrote:

If this is all that they can come up with Sarah Palin, with the 37 million viewers, to O'Bama's 38 million viewers should do well.

Enthusiasm for McCain jumped 20% this week...no doubt because of her.  I mean her speech will be more popular and more remembered than McCain's, a first really.

I also liked how she gave props to the women before her in politics like Hillary Clinton and Geraldine Ferraro.

Now if I could only find a bull-dog with lipstick...
i love double talk too. it makes me feel so assured that john McCain is as in touch with our financial struggles as he says he is.


edit: just like a nice little rubber ball.

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War Man
Australians are hermaphrodites.
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Ender2309 wrote:

War Man wrote:

Ender2309 wrote:


probably not, actually. do some research before you spout off.

or this.
Did you hear about Obama trying to raise $8,000,000, well he didn't quite get there. And as for Palins fundraiser, the people who worked their can't keep up with the money they are given, and let me assure you it is much much more than $8,000,000
check your facts son. he made 8 million in a single night. also, source your palin claim. I call bullshit. so does google.

how are you in any position to assure me anything?

go vote for your anti community, hypocritical team. have fun in dreamland.
Google is liberal bias. And who are you to call McCain/Palin team to be hypocrites, if the media found out that the democratic female vice presidential candidate's 17 year old daughter was pregnant, they wouldn't mind. As for Palin, she is getting bashed unfairly. So STFU.
The irony of guns, is that they can save lives.
Ender2309
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lies are nice too.


At the present time, there has been no crude oil production in the ANWR coastal plain region. This analysis assumes that enactment of the legislation in 2008 would result in first production from the ANWR area in 10 years, i.e., 2018.

The primary constraints to a rapid development of ANWR oil resources are the limited weather “windows” for collecting seismic data and drilling wells (a 3-to-4 month winter window) and for ocean barging of heavy infrastructure equipment to the well site (a 2-to-3 month summer window).

The assumption that ANWR oil production would begin 10 years after legislation approves the Federal oil and natural gas leasing in the 1002 Area is based on the following 8-to-12 year timeline:

    * 2 to 3 years to obtain leases, including the development of a U.S. Bureau of Land Management (BLM) leasing program, which includes approval of an Environmental Impact Statement, the collection and analysis of seismic data, and the auction and award of leases.
    * 2 to 3 years to drill a single exploratory well. Exploratory wells are slower to drill because geophysical data are collected during drilling, e.g., rock cores and well logs.  Typically, Alaska North Slope exploration wells take two full winter seasons to reach the desired depth.
    * 1 to 2 years to develop a production development plan and obtain BLM approval for that plan, if a commercial oil reservoir is discovered.  Considerably more time could be required if the discovered oil reservoir is very deep, is filled with heavy oil, or is highly faulted.  The petroleum company might have to collect more seismic data or drill delineation wells to confirm that the deposit is commercial.
    * 3 to 4 years to construct the feeder pipelines; to fabricate oil separation and treatment plants, and transport them up from the lower-48 States to the North Slope by ocean barge; construct drilling pads; drill to depth; and complete the wells.

The 10-year timeline for developing ANWR petroleum resources assumes that there is no protracted legal battle in approving the BLM’s draft Environmental Impact Statement, the BLM’s approval to collect seismic data, or the BLM’s approval of a specific lease-development proposal.
"In recent days I have set before the American people an energy plan, the Lexington Project -- named for the town where Americans asserted their independence once before. And let it begin today with this commitment: In a world of hostile and unstable suppliers of oil, this nation will achieve strategic independence by 2025."
essentially he's making a promise he has absolutely no way of backing up. the person who follows him could undo all of his progress. besides which, drilling in anwr/offshore will do nothing to lighten our energy struggles in the next ten years, and have an unnoticeable effect afterward.

WASHINGTON - Opening an Alaska wildlife refuge to oil development would only slightly reduce America’s dependence on imports and would lower oil prices by less than 50 cents a barrel, according to an analysis released Tuesday by the Energy Department.

The report, issued by the Energy Information Administration, or EIA, said that if Congress gave the go-ahead to pump oil from Alaska’s Arctic National Wildlife Refuge, the crude could begin flowing by 2013 and reach a peak of 876,000 barrels a day by 2025.
note that it's fifty cents a barrel, not gallon.

edit: how does a search engine have a bias? that makes no sense whatsoever. and who the hell is making a big deal about the pregnancy?

palin has doubled talked hillary, the bridge to nowhere, and she's ripped obama for being a community organizer. read the link, its pretty sad. she bounced around between 5 colleges in 6 years. she's got very little political experience, just like obama, and now she's feeling the same heat he felt a few months ago. get serious boys.

and by the way, they ARE hypocrites. McCain preaches family values and yet he cheated on his wheelchair-bound wife, and then married the bitch (Cindy). how is that hypocritical?

and could somebody please tell me what the hell being a POW has to do with running a country?

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TrueMusou
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War Man wrote:

Google is liberal bias. And who are you to call McCain/Palin team to be hypocrites, if the media found out that the democratic female vice presidential candidate's 17 year old daughter was pregnant, they wouldn't mind. As for Palin, she is getting bashed unfairly. So STFU.
How the hell is Google liberal biased? You can search anything you want on Google. They are g'damn
hypocrites, as the raw video shows. How is Palin getting bashed unfairly, she took that risk stepping on the world stage with the big boys. Was Obama bashed unfairly when he was called "Not black enough" etc etc?
AussieReaper
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Harmor wrote:

TheAussieReaper wrote:

Her pants are on fire.
Pants...she was wearing a shirt with high-heels.
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War Man
Australians are hermaphrodites.
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TrueMusou wrote:

War Man wrote:

Google is liberal bias. And who are you to call McCain/Palin team to be hypocrites, if the media found out that the democratic female vice presidential candidate's 17 year old daughter was pregnant, they wouldn't mind. As for Palin, she is getting bashed unfairly. So STFU.
How the hell is Google liberal biased? You can search anything you want on Google. They are g'damn
hypocrites, as the raw video shows. How is Palin getting bashed unfairly, she took that risk stepping on the world stage with the big boys. Was Obama bashed unfairly when he was called "Not black enough" etc etc?
I can't read endor's post at the moment until I get some sleep but I thought he was referring to google news. And also you don't bash Palin because her 17 year old did something stupid. And also those were racist black people saying that about Obama.
The irony of guns, is that they can save lives.
Ender2309
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War Man wrote:

TrueMusou wrote:

War Man wrote:

Google is liberal bias. And who are you to call McCain/Palin team to be hypocrites, if the media found out that the democratic female vice presidential candidate's 17 year old daughter was pregnant, they wouldn't mind. As for Palin, she is getting bashed unfairly. So STFU.
How the hell is Google liberal biased? You can search anything you want on Google. They are g'damn
hypocrites, as the raw video shows. How is Palin getting bashed unfairly, she took that risk stepping on the world stage with the big boys. Was Obama bashed unfairly when he was called "Not black enough" etc etc?
I can't read endor's post at the moment until I get some sleep but I thought he was referring to google news. And also you don't bash Palin because her 17 year old did something stupid. And also those were racist black people saying that about Obama.
i know i'm gravitational and shit when i speak, but i'm no planet.
TrueMusou
Member
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War Man wrote:

TrueMusou wrote:

War Man wrote:

Google is liberal bias. And who are you to call McCain/Palin team to be hypocrites, if the media found out that the democratic female vice presidential candidate's 17 year old daughter was pregnant, they wouldn't mind. As for Palin, she is getting bashed unfairly. So STFU.
How the hell is Google liberal biased? You can search anything you want on Google. They are g'damn
hypocrites, as the raw video shows. How is Palin getting bashed unfairly, she took that risk stepping on the world stage with the big boys. Was Obama bashed unfairly when he was called "Not black enough" etc etc?
I can't read endor's post at the moment until I get some sleep but I thought he was referring to google news. And also you don't bash Palin because her 17 year old did something stupid. And also those were racist black people saying that about Obama.
There is absolute grounds to question Palin's judgment when it comes to her pregnant daughter. A blind pooch can see why you can "bash" her on those grounds.

FACT: Sarah Palin backed Abstinence ONLY education in schools.
FACT: Bristol Palin pregnant at 17 years old.

Some might question Mrs. Palin's judgment when it comes to backing such a program, and expecting it to work wonders for the teenagers in her great state of Alaska. If it didn't work for her own household, how the hell is it going to work for OTHER people's kiddies? This SHOWS her alienation from reality when it comes to her choice of policies. One might even be crazy enough to allude her past decisions and mistakes to potential future judgments made in Washington.
Ender2309
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TrueMusou wrote:

War Man wrote:

TrueMusou wrote:


How the hell is Google liberal biased? You can search anything you want on Google. They are g'damn
hypocrites, as the raw video shows. How is Palin getting bashed unfairly, she took that risk stepping on the world stage with the big boys. Was Obama bashed unfairly when he was called "Not black enough" etc etc?
I can't read endor's post at the moment until I get some sleep but I thought he was referring to google news. And also you don't bash Palin because her 17 year old did something stupid. And also those were racist black people saying that about Obama.
There is absolute grounds to question Palin's judgment when it comes to her pregnant daughter. A blind pooch can see why you can "bash" her on those grounds.

FACT: Sarah Palin backed Abstinence ONLY education in schools.
FACT: Bristol Palin pregnant at 17 years old.

Some might question Mrs. Palin's judgment when it comes to backing such a program, and expecting it to work wonders for the teenagers in her great state of Alaska. If it didn't work for her own household, how the hell is it going to work for OTHER people's kiddies? This SHOWS her alienation from reality when it comes to her choice of policies. One might even be crazy enough to allude her past decisions and mistakes to potential future judgments made in Washington.
while i do agree with you, one must admit that she can't control her children and their actions. her child's mistake should not be her own. however, it should be noted that for a person who puts family first this suggests she cannot both effectively hold office and enforce her parenting judgment on her children.
nukchebi0
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One thing I never understood was how abstinence only education prevented kids from learning about contraceptives. Or is it just that it works on a subconscious level to make kids less inclined to consider safe sex when they inevitably partake in such activities?
Ender2309
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nukchebi0 wrote:

One thing I never understood was how abstinence only education prevented kids from learning about contraceptives. Or is it just that it works on a subconscious level to make kids less inclined to consider safe sex when they inevitably partake in such activities?
i'm not sure what you mean.
TrueMusou
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nukchebi0 wrote:

One thing I never understood was how abstinence only education prevented kids from learning about contraceptives. Or is it just that it works on a subconscious level to make kids less inclined to consider safe sex when they inevitably partake in such activities?
Most of us has gone through middle school in some form or another where they make you sit through an awkward 2 hours slipping condoms on bananas and watching the HORRORS of a woman giving birth in VHS. The abstinence only education, from what I understand, basically tells you that sex is BAD and you besta resist teenage hormones/angst. They don't inform the children about contraceptives option if they do choose to have sex. I mean, their children, if they aren't told about contraceptives, they won't give a shit. Just think back to the time when you were around those years, priorities was shoving your shlong into a girl and protection was the last thing on your mind.
Ender2309
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TrueMusou wrote:

nukchebi0 wrote:

One thing I never understood was how abstinence only education prevented kids from learning about contraceptives. Or is it just that it works on a subconscious level to make kids less inclined to consider safe sex when they inevitably partake in such activities?
Most of us has gone through middle school in some form or another where they make you sit through an awkward 2 hours slipping condoms on bananas and watching the HORRORS of a woman giving birth in VHS. The abstinence only education, from what I understand, basically tells you that sex is BAD and you besta resist teenage hormones/angst. They don't inform the children about contraceptives option if they do choose to have sex. I mean, their children, if they aren't told about contraceptives, they won't give a shit. Just think back to the time when you were around those years, priorities was shoving your shlong into a girl and protection was the last thing on your mind.
protection was the first thing on my mind. damn that contraceptive education!
nukchebi0
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TrueMusou wrote:

nukchebi0 wrote:

One thing I never understood was how abstinence only education prevented kids from learning about contraceptives. Or is it just that it works on a subconscious level to make kids less inclined to consider safe sex when they inevitably partake in such activities?
Most of us has gone through middle school in some form or another where they make you sit through an awkward 2 hours slipping condoms on bananas and watching the HORRORS of a woman giving birth in VHS. The abstinence only education, from what I understand, basically tells you that sex is BAD and you besta resist teenage hormones/angst. They don't inform the children about contraceptives option if they do choose to have sex. I mean, their children, if they aren't told about contraceptives, they won't give a shit. Just think back to the time when you were around those years, priorities was shoving your shlong into a girl and protection was the last thing on your mind.
I was just saying that it is so easy to hear about condoms or the pill, or the day after pill, from other kids during school, not necessarily in a certain sex ed class, that it seems difficult to believe anyone would not know they exist. So I was wondering if a high school sex ed class that stressed not having sex and didn't repeatedly drill in the need to use contraceptives should you choose to do so made kids less inclined to use them when they had sex, regardless of whether they knew about these contraceptives or not.
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JahManRed wrote:

Wore out all the Obama hysterics and moved on to his deputy. Nice.
wrong candidate brah.
JahManRed
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Ender2309 wrote:

JahManRed wrote:

Wore out all the Obama hysterics and moved on to his deputy. Nice.
wrong candidate brah.
I have to admit. My interest in the whole thing is now zero. Its seams like its been going on for years.
nukchebi0
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Only 59 more days.

Last edited by nukchebi0 (2008-09-05 00:32:44)

Ender2309
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JahManRed wrote:

Ender2309 wrote:

JahManRed wrote:

Wore out all the Obama hysterics and moved on to his deputy. Nice.
wrong candidate brah.
I have to admit. My interest in the whole thing is now zero. Its seams like its been going on for years.
its funny because we've been mentioning mccain and palin in a pair throughout the thread.
TrueMusou
Member
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nukchebi0 wrote:

TrueMusou wrote:

nukchebi0 wrote:

One thing I never understood was how abstinence only education prevented kids from learning about contraceptives. Or is it just that it works on a subconscious level to make kids less inclined to consider safe sex when they inevitably partake in such activities?
Most of us has gone through middle school in some form or another where they make you sit through an awkward 2 hours slipping condoms on bananas and watching the HORRORS of a woman giving birth in VHS. The abstinence only education, from what I understand, basically tells you that sex is BAD and you besta resist teenage hormones/angst. They don't inform the children about contraceptives option if they do choose to have sex. I mean, their children, if they aren't told about contraceptives, they won't give a shit. Just think back to the time when you were around those years, priorities was shoving your shlong into a girl and protection was the last thing on your mind.
I was just saying that it is so easy to hear about condoms or the pill, or the day after pill, from other kids during school, not necessarily in a certain sex ed class, that it seems difficult to believe anyone would not know they exist. So I was wondering if a high school sex ed class that stressed not having sex and didn't repeatedly drill in the need to use contraceptives should you choose to do so made kids less inclined to use them when they had sex, regardless of whether they knew about these contraceptives or not.
Well, I mean, I'm sure there are kids who smarten up and learn to use contraceptives regardless of how hard (or slack) the schools are drilling the students about contraceptives. For the rest of the kids who don't smarten up, there's a much larger chance of someone becoming a mother or a baby's-daddy. It wouldn't be the case if the child was drilled about contraceptives and all the options when it comes to having sex. There are absolutely cases of teenage pregnancy in places with regular Sex-Ed, but I'm willing to put money down that the the teenage pregnancy rates are lower.

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