BF2S Forums Microsoft: Nintendo won this generation, we will fight Sony for 2nd

jsnipy wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

Nintendo's target isn't the same than MS and Sony.  The real fight is between MS and Sony.  The Wii is for kids and for those gamers that don't care about having the 1337 system in their homes.  Nintendo won this generation based on price, nothing else.  Let's see how they do with the X360 arcade at $199.

Doubtful. More than kids play the Wii. Lots of casual adult gamers do as well.
Nintendo did this with a limited supply as well. If they sold for $100 more I would imaging the would still sell.

A "1337" system would be a "PC"

When I look at PS3 and X360 games, I think about PC titles. Fable 2's the closest to convincing me to join up with an XBox, but it'll probably be out on PC eventually.

Meanwhile, Nintendo still has my mainstays: Mario and Zelda. If I were to get a system besides a PC, it'd have to be a Wii.

sergeriver wrote:

jsnipy wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

Nintendo's target isn't the same than MS and Sony.  The real fight is between MS and Sony.  The Wii is for kids and for those gamers that don't care about having the 1337 system in their homes.  Nintendo won this generation based on price, nothing else.  Let's see how they do with the X360 arcade at $199.

Doubtful. More than kids play the Wii. Lots of casual adult gamers do as well.
Nintendo did this with a limited supply as well. If they sold for $100 more I would imaging the would still sell.

A "1337" system would be a "PC"

Read what I worte.  The Wii is for kids and for gamers who don't care about having a top notch system.  The 1337 system today is the PS3, you take it out of the box and it runs ok whatever game you play on it, while the PC needs a lot of resources to run a modern game with decent graphics.  How do you play a MGS4 on PC?  What PC do you need to run Crysis all set on high?

thats because thats how consoles work, it doesnt make them '1337', any console you can think of you can take a game out of the box and play, purely because no developer in their right mind would attempt a craze of replacing components in consoles and you do in PCs. the console equivalent on buying a new graphics card is buying a next gen system, try running MGS4 in your PS2, that may sound like a stupid argument, but its exactly the same principle as yours (with the fact that the MGS series is not on PC format taken out of the equation).  you could say that a PC is more '1337' as it only needs tweaking to play newer games as opposed to buying a whole new system, probably a lot more money overall anyways

sergeriver wrote:

mkxiii wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

Read what I worte.  The Wii is for kids and for gamers who don't care about having a top notch system.  The 1337 system today is the PS3, you take it out of the box and it runs ok whatever game you play on it, while the PC needs a lot of resources to run a modern game with decent graphics.  How do you play a MGS4 on PC?  What PC do you need to run Crysis all set on high?

thats because thats how consoles work, it doesnt make them '1337', any console you can think of you can take a game out of the box and play, purely because no developer in their right mind would attempt a craze of replacing components in consoles and you do in PCs. the console equivalent on buying a new graphics card is buying a next gen system, try running MGS4 in your PS2, that may sound like a stupid argument, but its exactly the same principle as yours (with the fact that the MGS series is not on PC format taken out of the equation).  you could say that a PC is more '1337' as it only needs tweaking to play newer games as opposed to buying a whole new system, probably a lot more money overall anyways

Don't get me wrong, I love my PC, I tweak it from time to time, but how much does it cost every tweak?  New GPU $200-300, and a console lasts 8 years without spending one buck, at least my PS2 did.

you make a good point, but in my view i factor in the lowered price of PC games, and however much it costs to really upgrade to the minimum needed,as well as the extra tasks that a computer can accomplish, however the latter are becoming more obsolete as the next gen consoles are digressing to those tasks, especially the PS3 with internet capabilities

ELITE-UK wrote:

mkxiii wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

Don't get me wrong, I love my PC, I tweak it from time to time, but how much does it cost every tweak?  New GPU $200-300, and a console lasts 8 years without spending one buck, at least my PS2 did.

you make a good point, but in my view i factor in the lowered price of PC games, and however much it costs to really upgrade to the minimum needed,as well as the extra tasks that a computer can accomplish, however the latter are becoming more obsolete as the next gen consoles are digressing to those tasks, especially the PS3 with internet capabilities

I with Mkxiii on this, with the ammount it costs for a gaming pc, its made up on the low price of the games that are release for it. Instead of paying £40 and sometimes more for a PS3 game, you can be paying sometimes £15 for a brand new game up to £30.

I also get where your coming from Serge, once you have paid for the PS3, thats it for a good 5 years or so, all you need to buy is games and still have expectional quality on some of the games.

Yes, PC games are cheaper, nobody is saying PC sucks, in fact it gives you the ability to have fun and manage your business, bank accounts or whatever.  But consoles are getting to it too.  I'm going to tweak my PC again in a couple of months, while I don't plan to spend one buck on my PS3 unless the 80GB HD becomes small, which I don't see happening for at least a year.