No kidding.usmarine wrote:
its like little havana, except its little iraqCameronPoe wrote:
From what I hear the entire state of Michigan should be razed to the ground and I have no intention of ever stepping foot in it...usmarine wrote:
go to dearborn, michigan next time.
oh, and yes. fuck michigan.
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How long have these guys been campaigning? Mixing words is inevitable. You don't select which words you mince. Have you watched the entire interview? Or are you discrediting someones personal faith based on a 17 second you tube clip? I'd say I was shocked.. but not really.ATG wrote:
I am shocked Sir that you have failed to see my point.Kmarion wrote:
You know whats funny about this garbage? He was defending the allegations that he was Muslim. Listen to more than 17 seconds and you might see that it wasn't a confusion of faith, but rather a fumbling of words.
I never thought I'd ever say this. But I've got to respect the legitimate criticism lowing has brought to this forum.. It's certainly more relevant than this.
I am asking those of faith to examine their capacity for mislabeling it. Something so profoundly foundational to our world view cannot be dismissed as the hurried utterings of a beleagured candidate, no Sir. As is said in comedy, behind every joke is a portion of truth. Elsewise, we couldn't relate and find the humor. A Freudian slip some may say. A parapraxis of epic proportions.
And I care naught if he is Muslim.
It's the economy stupid.
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.. and when you apply the context of the interview it's even more understandable. He was in fact refuting the claim. The relay from the mind to mouth was.. off.CameronPoe wrote:
The logical reason behind the slip is this: he is constantly being bombarded with this accusation of him being a muslim or having been a muslim. Being preoccupied with this means that it is always on the back of his mind.
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It's not like there aren't other questionable things about Obamas ties to Islam and American terrorists.Kmarion wrote:
How long have these guys been campaigning? Mixing words is inevitable. You don't select which words you mince. Have you watched the entire interview? Or are you discrediting someones personal faith based on a 17 second you tube clip? I'd say I was shocked.. but not really.ATG wrote:
I am shocked Sir that you have failed to see my point.Kmarion wrote:
You know whats funny about this garbage? He was defending the allegations that he was Muslim. Listen to more than 17 seconds and you might see that it wasn't a confusion of faith, but rather a fumbling of words.
I never thought I'd ever say this. But I've got to respect the legitimate criticism lowing has brought to this forum.. It's certainly more relevant than this.
I am asking those of faith to examine their capacity for mislabeling it. Something so profoundly foundational to our world view cannot be dismissed as the hurried utterings of a beleagured candidate, no Sir. As is said in comedy, behind every joke is a portion of truth. Elsewise, we couldn't relate and find the humor. A Freudian slip some may say. A parapraxis of epic proportions.
And I care naught if he is Muslim.
It's the economy stupid.
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There is nothing wrong with questions.. but you need not ignore the great majority of other evidence that suggest otherwise to do so.ATG wrote:
It's not like there aren't other questionable things about Obamas ties to Islam and American terrorists.Kmarion wrote:
How long have these guys been campaigning? Mixing words is inevitable. You don't select which words you mince. Have you watched the entire interview? Or are you discrediting someones personal faith based on a 17 second you tube clip? I'd say I was shocked.. but not really.ATG wrote:
I am shocked Sir that you have failed to see my point.
I am asking those of faith to examine their capacity for mislabeling it. Something so profoundly foundational to our world view cannot be dismissed as the hurried utterings of a beleagured candidate, no Sir. As is said in comedy, behind every joke is a portion of truth. Elsewise, we couldn't relate and find the humor. A Freudian slip some may say. A parapraxis of epic proportions.
And I care naught if he is Muslim.
It's the economy stupid.
ttfn
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This discussion is absolutely ridiculous. He was talking about how McCain had not used the "Obama's a Muslim" accusation in his campaigning at all... he explains that at the end of the clip as well... and that guy was so fast to say "christian faith" that Obama wasn't even able to finish the thought. This is so absurd.
Obama looks tired(rightfully so from nonstop campaigning) and a little confused... McCain and Palin have taken his thunder and he doesn't know what to do... Will be interesting to see how it goes in the next month or so...?
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I always known Barack was still to this day a muslim, he is just hiding it.ATG wrote:
Maybe i'm saying that church seems sort of shady Muslim.Poseidon wrote:
I've mistakenly called myself a Christian before just because I was trying to go with the flow of conversation. It was in the topic of conversation and it just came out wrong. Doesn't mean I go to church on Sundays or celebrate Christmas all of a sudden.
It's a mistake. It's a coincidence, but it's a mistake. He mis-spoke. Oh no!
What I find funny is the same people who criticize him for sitting in a CHURCH for 20 years accuse him of being a Muslim. You can't have it both ways.
There is an Islamic center in my town, perhaps you should pay a visit over here.CameronPoe wrote:
Well on my various trips to the US I have seen precious little of Islam in the broader scheme of things. I have seen plenty of black gospel choir type shit, which I imagine is Christian.ATG wrote:
I think you missunderestimate the impact Islam has had on Black America.CameronPoe wrote:
lol at this pathetic Muslim shit. No matter how hard Republicans wish it to be true it simply isn't and never will be. Talk about conspiracy theorists. Is he really an Al Qaeda mole nurtured from childhood to become the President of the United States and then bring it down from the inside?.....YoU HaVe EnTeReD tHe tWiLiGht ZoNe....
The irony of guns, is that they can save lives.
Obama seems to screw up on camera a lot. Smart guy, but screws up on camera a lot.
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