Spearhead
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I think that one of the great things America and western democracies have contributed to the world is the ability to distinguish between disliking someone and disagreeing. We all need to work toward being able to agree to disagree. I like Sarah Palin. I disagree with her.

I wrote this letter to friends and family on August 31. It has since circulated throughout the Web.

About Sarah Palin
I am a resident of Wasilla, Alaska. I have known Sarah since 1992. Everyone here knows Sarah, so it is nothing special to say we are on a first-name basis. Our children have attended the same schools. Her father was my child's favorite substitute teacher. I also am on a first name basis with her parents and mother-in-law. I attended more city council meetings during her administration than about 99% of the residents of the city.

She is enormously popular; in every way she's like the most popular girl in middle school. Even men who think she is a poor choice and won't vote for her can't quit smiling when talking about her because she is a "babe."

It is astonishing and almost scary how well she can keep a secret. She kept her most recent pregnancy a secret from her children and parents for seven months.

She is pro-life. She recently gave birth to a Down's syndrome baby. There is no cover-up involved, here; Trig is her baby.

She is energetic and hardworking. She regularly worked out at the gym.

She is savvy. She doesn't take positions; she just puts things out there and if they prove to be popular, then she takes credit.

Her husband works a union job on the North Slope for BP and is a champion snowmobile racer. Todd Palin's kind of job is highly sought-after because of the schedule and high pay. He arranges his work schedule so he can fish for salmon in Bristol Bay for a month or so in summer, but by no stretch of the imagination is fishing their major source of income. Nor has her lifestyle ever been anything like that of native Alaskans.

Sarah and her whole family are avid hunters.

She's smart.

Her experience is as mayor of a city with a population of about 5,000 (at the time), and less than two years as governor of a state with about 670,000 residents.

During her mayoral administration most of the actual work of running this small city was turned over to an administrator. She had been pushed to hire this administrator by party power brokers after she had gotten herself into some trouble over precipitous firings, which had given rise to a recall campaign.

Sarah campaigned in Wasilla as a "fiscal conservative." During her six years as mayor, she increased general government expenditures by over 33%. During those same six years, the amount of taxes collected by the city increased by 38%. This was during a period of low inflation (1996-2002). She reduced progressive property taxes and increased a regressive sales tax, which even taxed food. The tax cuts that she promoted benefited large corporate property owners way more than they benefited residents.

The huge increases in tax revenues during her mayoral administration weren't enough to fund everything on her wish list though. Borrowed money was needed, too. She inherited a city with zero debt, but left it with indebtedness of over $22 million. What did Mayor Palin encourage the voters to borrow money for? Was it the infrastructure that she said she supported? The sewage treatment plant that the city lacked? Or a new library? No. $1 million for a park. $15 million-plus for construction of a multi-use sports complex, which she rushed through to build on a piece of property that the city didn't even have clear title to. That was still in litigation seven years later -- to the delight of the lawyers involved! The sports complex itself is a nice addition to the community but a huge money pit, not the profit generator she claimed it would be. She also supported bonds for $5.5 million for road projects that could have been done in 5-7 years without any borrowing.

While mayor, city hall was extensively remodeled and her office redecorated more than once.

These are small numbers, but Wasilla is a very small city.

As an oil producer, the high price of oil has created a budget surplus in Alaska. Rather than invest this surplus in technology that will make us energy independent and increase efficiency, as governor she proposed distribution of this surplus to every individual in the state.

In this time of record state revenues and budget surpluses, she recommended that the state borrow and bond for road projects, even while she proposed distribution of surplus state revenues: spend today's surplus, borrow for needs.

She's not very tolerant of divergent opinions or open to outside ideas or compromise. As mayor, she fought ideas that weren't generated by her or her staff. Ideas weren't evaluated on their merits, but on the basis of who proposed them.

While Sarah was mayor of Wasilla, she tried to fire our highly respected city librarian because the librarian refused to consider removing from the library some books that Sarah wanted removed. City residents rallied to the defense of the city librarian and against Palin's attempt at out-and-out censorship, so Palin backed down and withdrew her termination letter. People who fought her attempt to oust the librarian are on her enemies list to this day.

Sarah complained about the "old boy's club" when she first ran for mayor, so what did she bring Wasilla? A new set of "old boys." Palin fired most of the experienced staff she inherited. At the city and as governor she hired or elevated new, inexperienced, obscure people, creating a staff totally dependent on her for their jobs and eternally grateful and fiercely loyal -- loyal to the point of abusing their power to further her personal agenda, as she has acknowledged happened in the case of pressuring the state's top cop (see below).

As mayor, Sarah fired Wasilla's police chief because he "intimidated" her, she told the press. As governor, her recent firing of Alaska's top cop has the ring of familiarity about it. He served at her pleasure and she had every legal right to fire him, but it's pretty clear that an important factor in her decision to fire him was that he wouldn't fire her sister's ex-husband, a state trooper. Under investigation for abuse of power, she has had to admit that more than two dozen contacts were made between her staff and family to the person that she later fired, pressuring him to fire her ex-brother-in-law. She tried to replace the man she fired with a man who she knew had been reprimanded for sexual harassment; when this caused a public furor, she withdrew her support.

She has bitten the hand of every person who extended theirs to her in help. The city council person who personally escorted her around town, introducing her to voters when she first ran for Wasilla City Council, became one of her first targets when she was later elected Mayor. She abruptly fired her loyal city administrator; even people who didn't like the guy were stunned by this ruthlessness.

Fear of retribution has kept all of these people from saying anything publicly about her.

When then-Governor Murkowski was handing out political plums, Sarah got the best, chair of the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission: one of the few jobs not in Juneau and one of the best paid. She had no background in oil and gas issues. Within months of scoring this great job, which paid $122,400 per year, she was complaining in the press about the high salary. I was told that she hated that job: the commute, the structured hours, the work. Sarah became aware that a member of this commission (who was also the state chair of the Republican Party) engaged in unethical behavior on the job. In a gutsy move, which some undoubtedly cautioned her could be political suicide, Sarah solved all her problems in one fell swoop: got out of the job she hated and garnered gobs of media attention as the patron saint of ethics and as a gutsy fighter against the "old boys' club" when she dramatically quit, exposing this man's ethics violations (for which he was fined).

As mayor, she had her hand stuck out as far as anyone for pork from Senator Ted Stevens. Lately, she has castigated his pork-barrel politics and publicly humiliated him. She only opposed the "bridge to nowhere" after it became clear that it would be unwise not to.

As governor, she gave the legislature no direction and budget guidelines, then made a big grandstand display of line-item vetoing projects, calling them pork. Public outcry and further legislative action restored most of these projects -- which had been vetoed simply because she was not aware of their importance -- but with the unobservant she had gained a reputation as "anti-pork."

She is solidly Republican: no political maverick. The state party leaders hate her because she has bit them in the back and humiliated them. Other members of the party object to her self-description as a fiscal conservative.

Around Wasilla there are people who went to high school with Sarah. They call her "Sarah Barracuda" because of her unbridled ambition and predatory ruthlessness. Before she became so powerful, very ugly stories circulated around town about shenanigans she pulled to be made point guard on the high school basketball team. When Sarah's mother-in-law, a highly respected member of the community and experienced manager, ran for mayor, Sarah refused to endorse her.

As governor, she stepped outside of the box and put together a package of legislation known as AGIA, which forced the oil companies to march to the beat of her drum.

Like most Alaskans, she favors drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. She has questioned if the loss of sea ice is linked to global warming. She campaigned "as a private citizen" against a state initiative that would have either a) protected salmon streams from pollution from mines, or b) tied up in the courts all mining in the state (depending on who you listen to). She has pushed the state's lawsuit against the Department of the Interior's decision to list polar bears as threatened species.

McCain is the oldest person to ever run for president; Sarah will be a heartbeat away from being president.

There have to be literally millions of Americans who are more knowledgeable and experienced than her.

However, there's a lot of people who have underestimated her and are regretting it.

Claim vs. Fact

"Hockey mom:" true for a few years.

"PTA mom:" true years ago when her first-born was in elementary school, not since.

"NRA supporter:" absolutely true.

Social conservative: mixed. Opposes gay marriage, but vetoed a bill that would have denied benefits to employees in same-sex relationships. (Said she did this because it was unconstitutional.)

Pro-creationism: mixed. Supports it, but did nothing as governor to promote it.

"Pro-life:" mixed. Knowingly gave birth to a Down's syndrome baby, but declined to call a special legislative session on some pro-life legislation.

"Experienced:" Some high schools have more students than Wasilla has residents. Many cities have more residents than the state of Alaska. No legislative experience other than city council. Little hands-on supervisory or managerial experience; needed help of a city administrator to run town of about 5,000.

Political maverick: not at all.

Gutsy: absolutely!

Open and transparent: ??? Good at keeping secrets. Not good at explaining actions.

Has a developed philosophy of public policy: no.

"A greenie:" no. Turned Wasilla into a wasteland of big box stores and disconnected parking lots. Is pro-drilling off-shore and in ANWR.

Fiscal conservative: not by my definition!

Pro-infrastructure: no. Promoted a sports complex and park in a city without a sewage treatment plant or storm drainage system. Built streets to early 20th century standards.

Pro-tax relief: lowered taxes for businesses, but increased tax burden on residents

Pro-small government: no. Oversaw greatest expansion of city government in Wasilla's history.

Pro-labor/pro-union: no. Just because her husband works union doesn't make her pro-labor. I have seen nothing to support any claim that she is pro-labor/pro-union.

Why Am I Writing This?

First, I have long believed in the importance of being an informed voter. I am a voter registrar. For 10 years I put on student voting programs in the schools. If you Google my name, you will find references to my participation in local government, education, and PTA/parent organizations.

Secondly, I've always operated in the belief that bad things happen when good people stay silent. Few people know as much about Palin as I do because few have gone to as many city council meetings.

Third, I am just a housewife. I don't have a job she can bump me out of. I don't belong to any organization that she can hurt. But, I am no fool; she is immensely popular here, and it is likely that this will cost me somehow in the future. That's life.

Fourth, she has hated me since back in 1996, when I was one of the 100 or so people who rallied to support the city librarian against Sarah's attempt at censorship.

Fifth, I looked around and realized that everybody else was afraid to say anything because they were somehow vulnerable.

Caveats

I am not a statistician. I developed the numbers for the increase in spending and taxation two years ago (when Palin was running for governor) from information supplied to me by the finance director of the city of Wasilla, and I can't recall exactly what I adjusted for: did I adjust for inflation? For population increases? Right now, it is impossible for a private person to get any info out of city hall -- they are swamped. So I can't verify my numbers.

You may have noticed that there are various numbers circulating for the population of Wasilla, ranging from my "about 5,000" up to 9,000. The day Palin's selection was announced a city official told me that the current population is about 7,000. The official 2000 census count was 5,460. I have used about 5,000 because Palin was mayor from 1996 to 2002, and the city was growing rapidly in the mid-90s.
ghettoperson
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Very interesting. From that she comes off as being a bit of a fuck-up, and a bitch. Not someone I'd want in a position of power. It's hard to say how true it all is of course, as the majority of the sources are from the authors own experience. But from going on what else I've read about it, it all sounds highly plausible.
KEN-JENNINGS
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http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/sarahpalin.asp

Seems like there's a few of them...so what?  A supposed "insider" knowledge about her and her workings in various levels of government of Alaska?

Meh.

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AussieReaper
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Spearhead wrote:

Claim vs. Fact

"Hockey mom:" true for a few years.

"PTA mom:" true years ago when her first-born was in elementary school, not since.
^who care's about any of the above?

Spearhead wrote:

"NRA supporter:" absolutely true.
I'd rather have a VP who wants to limit gun ownership. The deadly shootings that occur every day in America, accidental or violent killings, most can be avoided with stronger gun laws.

Spearhead wrote:

Social conservative: mixed. Opposes gay marriage, but vetoed a bill that would have denied benefits to employees in same-sex relationships. (Said she did this because it was unconstitutional.)
She considers same sex relationships fine, but not the sanctity of marriage? She only vetoed that bill because it was unconstitutional. Anyone would have done the same.

Spearhead wrote:

Pro-creationism: mixed. Supports it, but did nothing as governor to promote it.
This is scary. How anyone, can truly believe in the age that the Earth is 6000 and the fossil record was placed their by God to test our beliefs is ludicrous. How can you have someone in a position of power believe in this? I wouldn't be surprised if she pushes for Intelligent Design to be taught in schools parallel to the Darwinism theory. Do you think this is a step forward, or step backward for your education system?

Spearhead wrote:

"Pro-life:" mixed. Knowingly gave birth to a Down's syndrome baby, but declined to call a special legislative session on some pro-life legislation.
Doesn't believe in pro-life strongly enough to lend her political weight to the debate? Maybe it touches too close to home, but if you won't stand up for someone as important as this, which has affected you personally, what will you stand up for?

Spearhead wrote:

"Experienced:" Some high schools have more students than Wasilla has residents. Many cities have more residents than the state of Alaska. No legislative experience other than city council. Little hands-on supervisory or managerial experience; needed help of a city administrator to run town of about 5,000.
She has no experience other than life experience. Her resume says it all really. Compare her college academic record to any other politician and she looks more suited to be secretary.

Spearhead wrote:

Political maverick: not at all.
It would be nice to see someone challenge what is wrong with the current situation rather than just follow the crowd.

Spearhead wrote:

Gutsy: absolutely!
Haven't seen anything of hers to say she is gutsy at all.

Spearhead wrote:

Open and transparent: ??? Good at keeping secrets. Not good at explaining actions.
How can you trust a VP who cannot explain their own actions? How will she be able to explain the actions of a whole nation when visiting foreign diplomats for four years?

Spearhead wrote:

"A greenie:" no. Turned Wasilla into a wasteland of big box stores and disconnected parking lots. Is pro-drilling off-shore and in ANWR.
In this day of climate change, global warming and every other developed nation other than China and the US signing the Kyoto protocol it's time you had a climate change beleiver rather than a skeptic. She isn't going to be pushing for any sort of policy that makes cuts to pollution output in any way, shape or form.

Spearhead wrote:

Fiscal conservative: not by my definition!
A fiscal conservative is exactly what you need right now. The country is going into major debt, you have talk of a recession, spending has to be cut from somewhere and the economy needs to be better managed and balanced. How can a spendthrift help?

Spearhead wrote:

Pro-infrastructure: no. Promoted a sports complex and park in a city without a sewage treatment plant or storm drainage system. Built streets to early 20th century standards.
Would rather see a sports ground than sanitation? Says it all. Imagine this thinking on a nation wide platform. It spells disaster. Roads, electricity, water, gas. At what stage does critical infrastructure become worthy of her attention?

Spearhead wrote:

Pro-tax relief: lowered taxes for businesses, but increased tax burden on residents
The rich get richer and the poor get poorer.

Spearhead wrote:

Pro-small government: no. Oversaw greatest expansion of city government in Wasilla's history.
Local government is essential to dealing with local issues and I thought she made that point clear when she was supportive of an independent Alaska.

Spearhead wrote:

Pro-labor/pro-union: no. Just because her husband works union doesn't make her pro-labor. I have seen nothing to support any claim that she is pro-labor/pro-union.
Again, supporting the big businesses over the labor unions. I know that the labor unions are more hostile in the US than in Europe\Australia, but they try to protect workers rights and the health and safety of employees. She's not even willing to meet them half way?
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The#1Spot
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TLTR. Especially if its about a womans past life.
OrangeHound
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OK, that's the Anti-Palin side of things ... it would be nice to see the Pro-Palin side.
Poseidon
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OrangeHound wrote:

OK, that's the Anti-Palin side of things ... it would be nice to see the Pro-Palin side.
Isn't that what we've been hearing the past...I dunno, week or so?
OrangeHound
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Poseidon wrote:

OrangeHound wrote:

OK, that's the Anti-Palin side of things ... it would be nice to see the Pro-Palin side.
Isn't that what we've been hearing the past...I dunno, week or so?
This is the only thing I've seen, and it is merely from a biased housewife who has some axe to grind with Palin.

But, no ... I haven't seen anyone giving an assessment of her administration effectiveness in Alaska ...
Poseidon
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OrangeHound wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

OrangeHound wrote:

OK, that's the Anti-Palin side of things ... it would be nice to see the Pro-Palin side.
Isn't that what we've been hearing the past...I dunno, week or so?
This is the only thing I've seen, and it is merely from a biased housewife who has some axe to grind with Palin.

But, no ... I haven't seen anyone giving an assessment of her administration effectiveness in Alaska ...
I've seen nothing but praise of Palin recently, especially after her speech. When McCain picked her it was all "OMG GREATEST PICK EVAR SHE HAS NICE LIBRARIAN GLASSEZ N SHIT YA" etc.
AussieReaper
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OrangeHound wrote:

I haven't seen anyone giving an assessment of her administration effectiveness in Alaska ...
What effectiveness? lol


Here is a nice article on abortion and Palin's views on such a touchy issue.
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Reciprocity
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Everything I've read and seen regarding Gov. Palin suggests she's a political opportunist, as most successful politicians are.
TrueMusou
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Now, the writer of the letter is biased, but let's face it, we're all biased. However, this lady does not try to bash Palin by any means. She even praised her for her positive attributes early on in the letter and they seem like genuine legitimate praises for her character. Her presentation of Palin's politics seem to be fairly even and accurate. There's good and the bad, but the ugly certain outweighs both in terms of Palin's politics.

No one really knows much about Palin. From what I hear, this lady is an Alaskan had seen and kept up with what had happened as it happened. I'm taking this letter with a grain of salt, but it's certainly something people should consider when approaching the ballot boxes.
FEOS
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Poseidon wrote:

OrangeHound wrote:

OK, that's the Anti-Palin side of things ... it would be nice to see the Pro-Palin side.
Isn't that what we've been hearing the past...I dunno, week or so?
Do a quick survey of news sites. You'll see far more stories questioning her background and actions than you will see stories praising her (most of those are poll-related, not position-related, btw).

Far more stories questioning her background and actions than we've seen on Obama. Most of the questioning stories on him regarded more current issues (Rev Wright) or his acquaintances (Ayers)...not his experience or lack thereof.

I have yet to see a story investigating Biden's background to the extent Palin's is being investigated. And that's not for lack of searching, either.

I'm all for people learning more about the candidates' backgrounds and political records. I just wish the same scrutiny would be applied to all four equally.
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usmarine
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lolhuffington
[pt] KEIOS
srs bsns
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she´s a milf! vote for her!






not
usmarine
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lol at obama making a crack at her.  lame.  dems are going to lose again because they, well suck.  they are scared now and it shows.  and their tactics are not working because the numbers show that.  stupid asses.
AussieReaper
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usmarine wrote:

lol at obama making a crack at her.  lame.  dems are going to lose again because they, well suck.  they are scared now and it shows.  and their tactics are not working because the numbers show that.  stupid asses.
Maybe they should base a campaign strategy around spreading the rumour that Palin looks french. Think it will work?
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Dilbert_X
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Nah, just find some Vietnam vets who will swear McCain intentionally got shot down so he could be retrained as a VC sleeper.
They were dumb enough to believe the Swiftboaters - how two blatant draft dodgers in Cheney and Bush could dirty the record of a decorated veteran is still incredible.
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[pt] KEIOS
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What kind of Mother are you, when you let your teenage girl get around without protection? Doesn´t seem, that she did care for her... All Mothers of young women i know, made sure that their daughters have protection like pills or condoms....
usmarine
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[pt] KEIOS wrote:

What kind of Mother are you, when you let your teenage girl get around without protection? Doesn´t seem, that she did care for her... All Mothers of young women i know, made sure that their daughters have protection like pills or condoms....
lewl...... right.  so they taught them to be as slutty as you want, this will help.  awesome example to set.
ghettoperson
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usmarine wrote:

[pt] KEIOS wrote:

What kind of Mother are you, when you let your teenage girl get around without protection? Doesn´t seem, that she did care for her... All Mothers of young women i know, made sure that their daughters have protection like pills or condoms....
lewl...... right.  so they taught them to be as slutty as you want, this will help.  awesome example to set.
A responsible mother teaches her daughters to be slutty, hot, and use protection.
RAIMIUS
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TheAussieReaper wrote:

Spearhead wrote:

"NRA supporter:" absolutely true.
I'd rather have a VP who wants to limit gun ownership. The deadly shootings that occur every day in America, accidental or violent killings, most can be avoided with stronger gun laws.
22,000 US gun laws and counting...when are we going to find one that reduces crime?

TheAussieReaper wrote:

Spearhead wrote:

Fiscal conservative: not by my definition!
A fiscal conservative is exactly what you need right now. The country is going into major debt, you have talk of a recession, spending has to be cut from somewhere and the economy needs to be better managed and balanced. How can a spendthrift help?
Agree with you there...except the whole "management" bit.
kylef
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7 months, and no one noticed?
CoronadoSEAL
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[pt] KEIOS wrote:

What kind of Mother are you, when you let your teenage girl get around without protection? Doesn´t seem, that she did care for her... All Mothers of young women i know, made sure that their daughters have protection like pills or condoms....
how do you know she wasn't on the pill and he wasn't wearing a condom? oh. you don't.

sometimes a mother or a father's child is a good indicator of their character, but having rebellious pastor's-kids doesn't stop us from listening to what they have to say on Sunday, does it?

there is a fine line between being an example for a child and raising a child.
[pt] KEIOS
srs bsns
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it is a question of responsibility, to teach your kids about protection. i even know a muslim woman who´s still a virgin, but whos mother went to the doctor with her to get the pill, when she was 15. Either you face reality and care for protection against possibilities or you don´t and have a pregnant teenage daughter....

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