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MGS3_GrayFox wrote:

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

Doesn't explain why everyone in my four years of AFJROTC had better average grades than the rest of the school, nor why the classes were more technical.

You just said it yourself.  More technical, less thinking.

I see...technical classes require less thinking than non-technical classes.

What an utterly ridiculous statement.

Last edited by FEOS (2008-09-11 18:08:11)

sergeant.

jord wrote:

Well smack him in his face then...

Last edited by CoronadoSEAL (2008-09-11 18:13:03)

MGS3_GrayFox wrote:

FEOS wrote:

MGS3_GrayFox wrote:

You just said it yourself.  More technical, less thinking.

I see...technical classes require less thinking than non-technical classes.

What an utterly ridiculous statement.

Yeah, just like Calculus requires less thinking than Discrete Mathematics.

What? That too is a ridiculous statement.

MGS3_GrayFox wrote:

FEOS wrote:

MGS3_GrayFox wrote:

Yeah, just like Calculus requires less thinking than Discrete Mathematics.

What? That too is a ridiculous statement.

Are you in the JROTC?

No. But I dealt with JROTC graduates when I was in the real ROTC in college. Taking engineering courses...you know, those ones where you don't really have to think that much.

FEOS wrote:

RAIMIUS wrote:

That is one of those odd questions...very personal and deeply psychological.  It is not a light question, that's for sure (even if some don't understand that).

I had a AF ROTC senior tell me (and a bunch of other academy cadets) that she "actually had to work" to get her pilot slot--implying that USAFA cadets have pilot slots handed to them...nevermind the 4 years of training and school...  We had to work with her for another two weeks, so we let her keep on believing in her total discipline and academic superiority.  She probably made the worst first impression of anyone I had to work under.  Note to self: never insult the people working for you before you get to know them!

On the other hand, I have met a few really good ROTC people.

From one perspective, she has a point: the cadet population (and graduating population) of ROTC is greater than the population of USAFA, yet ROTC gets 40% of the available UPT slots each year as compared to the USAFA's 50%. That's not saying the USAFA cadets don't work hard to earn their commissions...just that they have a going-in better chance of getting a UPT slot.

She probably could have phrased it better, certainly. Other than that single thing she said, how was she?

You'll find when you get on active duty that there is a difference in officers based on commissioning source up until they hit O-3. Everything pretty much evens out there. Each source has its own strengths and weaknesses, and each source puts out idiots who have an over-inflated sense of self-worth.

She reiterated the comment several times, with the same implications.  Also, she generally did not associate with us and seemed to have an "I'm better and work harder than you" attitude.  I'm sure some of that (especially the association bit) was partly due to cultural differences.  She may have also been trying to assert that she was not a slacker (unfortunate stereotype that some USAFA cadets have for ROTC cadets, unjustified IMO).

I realize that USAFA cadets have better odds of getting a UPT slot (it definitely factored into my decision).  I believe we have better access to programs to prepare us for UPT, as well.  Unfortuntely, it is just not feasible to have a flight training squadron and dedicated airfield at every ROTC detachment...so, yes, we do have advantages.

I also realize that it is the person, rather than the source, that makes a good officer.  I have several friends in ROTC who will be fine officers.  I think ROTC cadets get more "adult life" experience, whereas USAFA cadets get much more military training/experience.  Differing experiences will lead to different mindsets for some people, which, as you say, will even out after a few years on the job.

Last edited by RAIMIUS (2008-09-11 20:25:21)

FEOS wrote:

MGS3_GrayFox wrote:

FEOS wrote:

What? That too is a ridiculous statement.

Are you in the JROTC?

No. But I dealt with JROTC graduates when I was in the real ROTC in college. Taking engineering courses...you know, those ones where you don't really have to think that much.

Engineers are a bunch of retards, you can ask any mathematics student that.

Those students don't even pass the GED.

MGS3_GrayFox wrote:

More technical, less thinking.

wtf

Some kid will always ask that question to a soldier, vet, or cop, much like when you watch those home-buying shows and the wife ALWAYS have to joke about getting the bigger closet.

MGS3_GrayFox wrote:

MAGUIRE93 wrote:

You've got to be more specific, because in JROTC and ROTC everyone is an idiot.

Doesn't explain why everyone in my four years of AFJROTC had better average grades than the rest of the school, nor why the classes were more technical.

GTFO grades dont mean shit.  I had a Lcpl that worked for me that achieved a perfect score on the asvab, but the only thing he could do even half way right was paperwork.

When I was in high school, the only people that were in jrotc (army) were the nerdiest and most physically pathetic people in the school. I bet that 90% of them never even came close to making it through boot.

GorillaTicTacs wrote:

The other one thought he was being clever during turn-in and thought he could use his "superior rank" to make us clean his weapon.  The problem is he hadn't qualified yet.  I said "sure thing" after some bitching...shined his weapon up nice, and then gave his site adjustment a good hard crank about 15 clicks.  He was held up and didn't graduate basic for another 2 weeks and missed his AIT class window and ended up on garbage detail for almost a month.

2 Life Lessons:

1) If your ambition exceeds your competence, don't come near me, I will find a way to fuck you.

2) If you did JROTC and go to basic, don't be a prick, your rank just means a little extra cash.  And for chrissake don't try to "pull rank" with your PFC stripe, you just look like an idiot.  See lesson 1.

That guy had to be a complete moron. I mean how hard is it to write down or memerize your bzo or whatever you moved it to? Or, you could kentucky windage that shit. Either way, that is some funny shit.