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usmarine wrote:

ATG wrote:

Mek-Stizzle wrote:

You people are morons. The only fucking thing you can talk about is Military budget when it comes to economic policy like it's the only thing that matters and fuck everything else. I guess you can't expect anything else on a video game forum about a war game, but still.

What the hell are you talking about?

lol

imortal wrote:

IRONCHEF wrote:

Which is why it's time to put another democrat in office...for responsible-ish financial prowess.  of course we lose our sovereignty with it, but hey, the republican "plan" of fiscal conservitiveness didn't work..as always.

...Yes, what we need is a democrat who balances the budget by cutting spending in the military down to barely effective levels.  Yes, that is useful.  (After all, why would the military need spare parts for its vehicles?) 

And people wonder why miltary people hated Clinton.

This guy, and some of the people after him. I mean for fuck sake, I understand that some of you are military and obviously will like the person that funds you more (even if they kill you more), but shit. There's more to choosing someone than how they finance their military. But the way posts are around here people act like it's the number #1 most important thing for a country.

GB is jealous because we have replaced her as the Empire.

usmarine wrote:

ATG wrote:

GB is jealous because we have replaced her as the Empire.

ofc.  they gave everything back for the most part.  they used to have the best navy in the world also.

And straight teeth.

This thread was about the U.S. working to keep the Chicom economy down, even at the expense of our own.

Doesn't anyone find it odd that Fannie and Freddie stocks in the 100's of billions are owned by the Chinese?
Could it be that the U.S. felt a need to discourage the Chinese from buying core real estate and the only way it could be done was to devalue residential property?

ATG wrote:

GB is jealous because we have replaced her as the Empire.

You don't own a country because you have a base there. Or everyone owns a each other.

You own Puerto Rico, and Greyfox wants it back.

usmarine wrote:

made your country who it is today didnt it mek?

Yes, I knew people would say this. Fuck sake. I'm aware how important a military is. I'm not saying........you know what, forget it. I can't be arsed.

I think Mek is pointing out that military budget isn't the be all and end all of your economic spending. You waste as much money on foreign aid as you did the Comanche...

FEOS wrote:

jord wrote:

You own Puerto Rico, and Greyfox wants it back.

They can have it, tbh.

But PR doesn't want to change the relationship. They get all the benefits of statehood without any of that nasty baggage like paying federal taxes and whatnot.

but according to greyfaux they get nothing from the US

ATG wrote:

usmarine wrote:

ATG wrote:

GB is jealous because we have replaced her as the Empire.

ofc.  they gave everything back for the most part.  they used to have the best navy in the world also.

And straight teeth.

This thread was about the U.S. working to keep the Chicom economy down, even at the expense of our own.

Doesn't anyone find it odd that Fannie and Freddie stocks in the 100's of billions are owned by the Chinese?
Could it be that the U.S. felt a need to discourage the Chinese from buying core real estate and the only way it could be done was to devalue residential property?

Large investor-type financial institutions like the Bank of China are keen on the interconnectedness of global economy - if the value of the dollar goes down too much, they stand to lose much more than if they throw some money in Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac funds even though those may devalue.

If we were truly working to keep the Chinese economy down we would be looking at reconvening major manufacturing entities back to the US so that we can focus on tangible exports (which add real income to the GDP), instead of continuously encouraging foreign investment (don't forget about the Middle East financial sector, which has been increasing their financial diversification into US investments).

I think what is happening still is that US industries are seeking supplies of dollars, and other countries already dependent on a positive American economic outlook are more than willing to part with some of their cache.  Instead of internally auditing our economic systems (including at a public and private level), US industry is content with a seemingly expedient solution of the infusion of more dollars.

P.S. ATG - quit with the Rush Limbaughisms like Chicom.  It makes you sound more stupid than you are.

Last edited by KEN-JENNINGS (2008-09-13 12:09:37)

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

ATG wrote:

usmarine wrote:

ofc.  they gave everything back for the most part.  they used to have the best navy in the world also.

And straight teeth.

This thread was about the U.S. working to keep the Chicom economy down, even at the expense of our own.

Doesn't anyone find it odd that Fannie and Freddie stocks in the 100's of billions are owned by the Chinese?
Could it be that the U.S. felt a need to discourage the Chinese from buying core real estate and the only way it could be done was to devalue residential property?

Large investor-type financial institutions like the Bank of China are keen on the interconnectedness of global economy - if the value of the dollar goes down too much, they stand to lose much more than if they throw some money in Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac funds even though those may devalue.

If we were truly working to keep the Chinese economy down we would be looking at reconvening major manufacturing entities back to the US so that we can focus on tangible exports (which add real income to the GDP), instead of continuously encouraging foreign investment (don't forget about the Middle East financial sector, which has been increasing their financial diversification into US investments).

I think what is happening still is that US industries are seeking supplies of dollars, and other countries already dependent on a positive American economic outlook are more than willing to part with some of their cache.  Instead of internally auditing our economic systems (including at a public and private level), US industry is content with a seemingly expedient solution of the infusion of more dollars.

P.S. ATG - quit with the Rush Limbaughisms like Chicom.  It makes you sound more stupid than you are.

So this all legit and on the up and up? AMERICA HAS SOLD OUT! What part of that do people not understand? But fine believe what you want, can't argue with people who just want to see it their way rather than deal with reality.

Everything's always a secret plan to get back at them Ruskies

Bertster7 wrote:

ATG wrote:

The US economic "crisis" is doing more to curtail the anti-democratic ambitions of the Russians and other rogue petrol states than any amount of debate in the the EU or Nato. Is there any doubt that the US economy will be the last standing in an economic implosion? Not in the slightest.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/w … 860827.ece

Could it be that is crysis is popart of a larger strategy?

I doubt it. Kind of cutting off your nose to spite your face mentality there.

Gotta love that pic of Putin though, "When he's not hunting tigers, Vladimir Putin looks after the Russian economy"

Would the US really want to reduce the quality of life for it's people so much just to attack the economies of other states, when the economies that will be by far the hardest hit will be those of the US and her allies (since these are the economies that have embraced the US model of capitalism and are more reliant on credit which will be less available - and due to trading ties)? Seems like complete madness - and you have to remember that mismanagement of money by the US financial institutions was responsible for the great depression, just looks like more of the same really.

In any case, I can't find the passage you've quoted in the article - where is it?

in the comments.