Scratch[USA]
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I am moving my company info / upgrading from a desktop to a laptop.  Is there a way to copy the harddrive from desktop and put it on the laptop.  So that I do not have to reinstall my programs.  Quickbooks for example.  Its XP.

Ive already searched Ebay
Cheez
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Ghost or a free alternative.
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jsnipy
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you are changing radically different hardware, I doubt moving the disk image (ghost) will be kind to you.
Cheez
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Oh, I see. I just assumed Hard drive => Hard drive.

In this case, I would not attempt to image but use the Files and Settings Transfer Wizard built into Windows. It'll copy your documents, and (if you manually copy your Program Files too) most of your programs should continue to work.
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Afroman.exe
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If you want to back up your data then i suggest Symantec Ghost (version 11 i think) or if you want an identical 1 to 1 copy including desktop layout and installed apps...all that stuff, i would go for Acronis True Image Workstation...Best thing about that is it will copy across an identical image even if the hardware is completely different...works great for rollouts
Scratch[USA]
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Thank you  all I will continue to look.  Any other suggestions would be appreciated.
jamiet757
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You cannot move a hard drive from one computer to another and keep your programs and OS installed. (Whether you are moving the physical hard drive, or just the contents of it onto another drive)

You need to reformat. You can back up your data, but you will have to reinstall the OS and all your programs.

If you were moving the drive to a computer with the same hardware, it might work, but you will be putting it into a completely different computer, windows will not boot up and you will have to reformat.

Cheez wrote:

Oh, I see. I just assumed Hard drive => Hard drive.

In this case, I would not attempt to image but use the Files and Settings Transfer Wizard built into Windows. It'll copy your documents, and (if you manually copy your Program Files too) most of your programs should continue to work.
Not true, programs do not work if you simply copy the files in the "Program Files" directory, they are built into the registry, and if you do not copy the registry, your programs will not work because they will not know where their files are located. You cannot migrate the registry to a new computer though without major conflicts, it would be much better to just start from scratch, or you will have a system that will either not work at all, or work but have lots of errors.



It is really not that hard to install programs, one way to get around losing data is to do this:

1. Copy the program files from the directory (example quickbooks) and find where it stores data, in my documents or a temp directory or local settings.

2. Install program on new computer.

3. Copy old program file from old computer to new one. This way, you will keep all your settings/information, but the program will be installed correctly.

Last edited by jamiet757 (2008-09-23 19:39:59)

Afroman.exe
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jamiet757 wrote:

You cannot move a hard drive from one computer to another and keep your programs and OS installed. You need to reformat. You can back up your data, but you will have to reinstall the OS and all your programs.

If you were moving the drive to a computer with the same hardware, it might work, but you will be putting it into a completely different computer, windows will not boot up and you will have to reformat.
Who says you cant?

http://www.acronis.com/homecomputing/pr … trueimage/

"Acronis True Image includes our patented disk imaging backup technology. You can copy your entire PC, including the operating system, applications, user settings, and all data. In the event of a system or disk crash, virus attack or other fatal failures you can restore the entire disk contents in minutes — no reinstallations required!"

I use this at work all the time when people want to move, for example a 40Gb hard drive to a new 320Gb and dont want a full reformat. Just as long as when you do it, you select a universal restore and you practically have 0 down time.

Also i suggest u extract the drivers from the new machine so when you image it you will have them....use something like Driver Magician.
Cheez
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jamiet757 wrote:

Not true, programs do not work if you simply copy the files in the "Program Files" directory
Did you even read the first half of my sentence?

Also key word: most. Office will definitely not work even if you use FAST.
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jsnipy
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jamiet757 wrote:

You cannot move a hard drive from one computer to another and keep your programs and OS installed. (Whether you are moving the physical hard drive, or just the contents of it onto another drive)

You need to reformat. You can back up your data, but you will have to reinstall the OS and all your programs.
Thanks for the thread reiteration. But technically there is a way to do this, its called platespin, but its nowhere near  free

Last edited by jsnipy (2008-09-23 20:57:09)

Afroman.exe
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Isnt platespin made for more virtual desktop solutions? Is it a rival for vmware?
jsnipy
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Afroman.exe wrote:

Isnt platespin made for more virtual desktop solutions? Is it a rival for vmware?
A case where you use it is if you have a single image and you want to use it against different hardware configurations, platespin will interject the drivers. It is used a lot in conjunction vmware but not as a replacement. You an use it with real hardware also.

Last edited by jsnipy (2008-09-23 21:25:02)

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If you're at all comfortable with Linux, you can use the built-in command "dd" to copy the drive partition over to another drive, bit-by-bit

http://www.linuxweblog.com/dd-image

"dd" is like the great-grandfather of Ghost.  Command line, baremetal, just the bits ma'am - no flashy features or gui.

If you're not comfortable with that - perhaps you can find a Friendly Neighborhood 'Nix Geek to help.
Afroman.exe
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jsnipy wrote:

Afroman.exe wrote:

Isnt platespin made for more virtual desktop solutions? Is it a rival for vmware?
A case where you use it is if you have a single image and you want to use it against different hardware configurations, platespin will interject the drivers. It is used a lot in conjunction vmware but not as a replacement. You an use it with real hardware also.
Cheers for the clear up, i would karma ya but dont have enough posts yet lol
killer21
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Afroman.exe wrote:

Cheers for the clear up, i would karma ya but dont have enough posts yet lol
I have that same avatar and used it for a few years.
steelie34
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i've pulled off moving images between different hardware, but you have to do a windows repair as soon as you copy the image to the other hard drive.  don't even try to boot it up without doing the repair first.  it will detect all the new hardware, and hopefully get you to a running state where you can finish up installing the rest of the drivers yourself.  the biggest caveat for cloning between different hardware is the processor style.  they have to be the same architecture or it won't work.  (meaning the same generation... P3 to P4 or single core to dual core will NOT work)  but in your case, a desktop to a laptop will probably fail, but it would be worth a shot before reformatting.  i would personally, however, reformat since it starts you off clean.
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Afroman.exe
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If your willing to pay for a licence..Acronis will fix all these problems with different hardware, repairs, reformatting, install of OS, install of programs, all fixed in a 45 to 1hr restore session....if cost is an issue then by all means do a raw data copy like docs, .pst files, favourites all that jazz.....if cost isnt a problem...Acronis all the way no doubt about it
Scratch[USA]
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Well Cost not an issue if I have to pay. 
Thanks for all the help.

I may have a couple of options before I have to do it.

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