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2008-09-23 16:59:38
FEOS
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Varegg wrote:

FEOS wrote:

Varegg wrote:


Has nothing to do with ignorance, shallow maybe but not ignorant ... it's in the same line as we think all Americans are fat and stupid, just like you think all people in the ME are terrorists and that everyone in Britain has bad teeth because they don't bleech them ...
Except we don't think those things. Yet another ignorant, flawed euro view of Americans.
Go ask some questions, you'd be surpriced FEOS ... we have had those comments on this forum also plenty of times ...
Since I live here and interact with a good cross-section of the population daily...I'll go with that instead of BF2S as a sample set.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
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2008-09-23 20:00:06
Flaming_Maniac
prince of insufficient light
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Varegg wrote:

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

Varegg wrote:


True ... but one can try to understand why an impression was conceived rather than just meet ignorance with ignorance ...
It's awfully irrelevant what the plebeians in Europe think of our Presidents or Presidential candidates...after all they certainly aren't voting for them and have as much say in foreign policy as the American plebeians do.
That is the kinda chain of thoughts that are alienating your nation from the rest of the world, you seriously have to change the "fuck the rest of the world" attitude and start trying to gain back some of that goodwill you actually once had ...
Not fuck the rest of the world...we'll deal with our shit and you deal with your shit. If you expect us to base our politics partially on everyone else's politics, well that's messed up.
2008-09-23 22:13:12
ATG
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It's like this, George Bush is to the world what Dana Perino is to America.
2008-09-24 00:57:14
Varegg
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Flaming_Maniac wrote:

Varegg wrote:

Flaming_Maniac wrote:


It's awfully irrelevant what the plebeians in Europe think of our Presidents or Presidential candidates...after all they certainly aren't voting for them and have as much say in foreign policy as the American plebeians do.
That is the kinda chain of thoughts that are alienating your nation from the rest of the world, you seriously have to change the "fuck the rest of the world" attitude and start trying to gain back some of that goodwill you actually once had ...
Not fuck the rest of the world...we'll deal with our shit and you deal with your shit. If you expect us to base our politics partially on everyone else's politics, well that's messed up.
That's a narrow minded chain of thoughts Flaming, do you honestly believe that whatever policy the US is conducting doesn't have a ripple effect outside the US ?

The globe is getting smaller each year and we do have to take considerations or the globe will move on without us ... interaction with other countries is vital.
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2008-09-24 01:56:40
FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
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Wait a minute...don't all the euros here keep telling us Americans to deal with our own shit and quit fucking around with other countries?

Now we can't even deal with our own shit without fucking around with another country...it's a time-space paradox!

Great Scott! Where's the flux capacitor?!
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
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2008-09-24 02:37:08
Varegg
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FEOS wrote:

Wait a minute...don't all the euros here keep telling us Americans to deal with our own shit and quit fucking around with other countries?

Now we can't even deal with our own shit without fucking around with another country...it's a time-space paradox!

Great Scott! Where's the flux capacitor?!
There is a difference between fucking around with other countries and cooperating with them ... a huge difference tbh ...
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2008-09-24 02:51:42
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
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You guys expect to remove foreign leaders on a whim, but we aren't allowed to criticise your chimp of a President? FFS....
Just stay within your borders, and stop destablising the rest of the world.

If you can't manage that please just meddle in South America.
Don't you need to destabilise and replace all the puppet govts you put in place the last time?
Fuck Israel
2008-09-24 02:55:20
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,826|6577|eXtreme to the maX
Some examples of how the Eurotrash views it

Bush Jr. - Daddy bought him the presidency ... twice
Clinton - The man that brought the US back on track and introduced a new use of cigars
Bush Sr. - Shows that a corrupt company of powerful men can indeed peacefully take over the most powerful nation in the world
Reagan - An actor, and not a very good one either ... he turned out to be an okay president but the world laughed good
Nixon - Tricky Dick, did he do anything good at all ?
Lyndon B. Johnson - Responsible for killing thousands of Americas finest for nothing, for absolutely nothing ...
Harry S. Truman - He saved Europe and rebuild it, the right man in the right job at the right time ... brought the US to it's peek of popularity
Roosevelt - Maybe the best liked US president ever globally, he won WW2 ... technically Truman did but Roosevelt is the Hero

And what we think of the next election results
McCain/Palin - More of the global instability, fiscal incompetence we have now and a Christian fundamentalism as bad as it's ME counterparts
Obama/Biden - Change - couldn't be any worse could it?
Pretty much nails it
Fuck Israel
2008-09-24 03:15:53
FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
+1,182|6882|'Murka

Varegg wrote:

FEOS wrote:

Wait a minute...don't all the euros here keep telling us Americans to deal with our own shit and quit fucking around with other countries?

Now we can't even deal with our own shit without fucking around with another country...it's a time-space paradox!

Great Scott! Where's the flux capacitor?!
There is a difference between fucking around with other countries and cooperating with them ... a huge difference tbh ...
Which european countries do we not cooperate with?
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
2008-09-24 03:18:55
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,826|6577|eXtreme to the maX
Which european countries do we not cooperate with?
The French to start with - who helped give you your country if you remember.

Why limit it to Europe?
The US has essentially withdrawn from the UN.
Fuck Israel
2008-09-24 03:34:23
FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
+1,182|6882|'Murka

Dilbert_X wrote:

Which european countries do we not cooperate with?
The French to start with - who helped give you your country if you remember.

Why limit it to Europe?
The US has essentially withdrawn from the UN.
We've actually got very good relations with the French right now.

Got anything to back up your claim?

What am I thinking? Of course not...nvm.

So again...name a european country we're not cooperating with.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
2008-09-24 03:35:03
Varegg
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FEOS wrote:

Varegg wrote:

FEOS wrote:

Wait a minute...don't all the euros here keep telling us Americans to deal with our own shit and quit fucking around with other countries?

Now we can't even deal with our own shit without fucking around with another country...it's a time-space paradox!

Great Scott! Where's the flux capacitor?!
There is a difference between fucking around with other countries and cooperating with them ... a huge difference tbh ...
Which european countries do we not cooperate with?
I didn't narrow it down to just Europe did I, but Russia and France comes to mind ... France is the one European country that prides itself to have as little as possible to do with the US ...
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2008-09-24 05:41:21
Flaming_Maniac
prince of insufficient light
+2,490|7178|67.222.138.85

Varegg wrote:

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

Varegg wrote:


That is the kinda chain of thoughts that are alienating your nation from the rest of the world, you seriously have to change the "fuck the rest of the world" attitude and start trying to gain back some of that goodwill you actually once had ...
Not fuck the rest of the world...we'll deal with our shit and you deal with your shit. If you expect us to base our politics partially on everyone else's politics, well that's messed up.
That's a narrow minded chain of thoughts Flaming, do you honestly believe that whatever policy the US is conducting doesn't have a ripple effect outside the US ?

The globe is getting smaller each year and we do have to take considerations or the globe will move on without us ... interaction with other countries is vital.
lol you act like interaction with other countries is vital.

The U.S. of A. is a sovereign nation. That means we get to do whatever we want with our country, and frankly it's none of your business. Of course there will also be ripple effects, and frankly those shouldn't concern us either. There is a reason that Europeans can't vote in our nation - it's our nation. We want our vote to stand beside those votes who also directly stand to lose or gain based on the success of the nation, and so until we get to vote on European presidents you can leave our election alone.
2008-09-24 05:51:27
Varegg
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Flaming_Maniac wrote:

Varegg wrote:

Flaming_Maniac wrote:


Not fuck the rest of the world...we'll deal with our shit and you deal with your shit. If you expect us to base our politics partially on everyone else's politics, well that's messed up.
That's a narrow minded chain of thoughts Flaming, do you honestly believe that whatever policy the US is conducting doesn't have a ripple effect outside the US ?

The globe is getting smaller each year and we do have to take considerations or the globe will move on without us ... interaction with other countries is vital.
lol you act like interaction with other countries is vital.

The U.S. of A. is a sovereign nation. That means we get to do whatever we want with our country, and frankly it's none of your business. Of course there will also be ripple effects, and frankly those shouldn't concern us either. There is a reason that Europeans can't vote in our nation - it's our nation. We want our vote to stand beside those votes who also directly stand to lose or gain based on the success of the nation, and so until we get to vote on European presidents you can leave our election alone.
Ehr ... i dont think you understand the issue here, this thread is mainly about how foreigners view you Americans as stereotypes and trying to understand why ... it has nothing at all to do with who can vote in the election in the US ... where did you get that idea ?

And i honestly though you knew the importance of countries working together rather than against eachother ...
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2008-09-24 05:58:17
Flaming_Maniac
prince of insufficient light
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Varegg wrote:

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

Varegg wrote:


That's a narrow minded chain of thoughts Flaming, do you honestly believe that whatever policy the US is conducting doesn't have a ripple effect outside the US ?

The globe is getting smaller each year and we do have to take considerations or the globe will move on without us ... interaction with other countries is vital.
lol you act like interaction with other countries is vital.

The U.S. of A. is a sovereign nation. That means we get to do whatever we want with our country, and frankly it's none of your business. Of course there will also be ripple effects, and frankly those shouldn't concern us either. There is a reason that Europeans can't vote in our nation - it's our nation. We want our vote to stand beside those votes who also directly stand to lose or gain based on the success of the nation, and so until we get to vote on European presidents you can leave our election alone.
Ehr ... i dont think you understand the issue here, this thread is mainly about how foreigners view you Americans as stereotypes and trying to understand why ... it has nothing at all to do with who can vote in the election in the US ... where did you get that idea ?

And i honestly though you knew the importance of countries working together rather than against eachother ...
Why should we care what you think if you're not voting?

You miss the third case of leaving each other alone.
2008-09-24 06:01:31
Varegg
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So you enjoy the fact that 2/3 of the world hates your guts seeing as they have no power to do anything about it ?
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2008-09-24 06:03:35
Flaming_Maniac
prince of insufficient light
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Varegg wrote:

So you enjoy the fact that 2/3 of the world hates your guts seeing as they have no power to do anything about it ?
I could not care less until I go on vacation, at which time my "z"s will become "zed"s and I will become Canadian.
2008-09-24 06:15:05
mr.hrundi
Wurstwassereis
+68|6908|Germany

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

Varegg wrote:

So you enjoy the fact that 2/3 of the world hates your guts seeing as they have no power to do anything about it ?
I could not care less until I go on vacation, at which time my "z"s will become "zed"s and I will become Canadian.
I think there is no nation on earth that can give a fuck about other nation's opinions. The reason is ressources and trade. There is no nation on earth that has all required resources on its own soil, that's why it has to trade with other nations. To guarantee successful trades, you have to have decent relationships with the other nation. Sure you can try and get the needed resources by military means, but no nation on earth has enough soldiers to conquer the whole world.

And I also don't think that having to neglect your country of origin when going abroad is something to be proud of...

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2008-09-24 06:47:08
oug
Calmer than you are.
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FEOS wrote:

Varegg wrote:

All heads of state represent their country, many of the US presidents have made a lasting impression on the rest of the world for both better and worse ...

Some examples of how the Eurotrash views it

    * Bush Jr. - Daddy bought him the presidency ... twice
    * Clinton - The man that brought the US back on track and introduced a new use of cigars
                  - Impeached for perjuring himself
                  - Handed GWB's administration a recession
    * Bush Sr. - Shows that a corrupt company of powerful men can indeed peacefully take over the most powerful nation in the world
                    - Built (and maintained) international coalition (to include Arab/Muslim states) to kick Iraq out of Kuwait
    * Reagan - An actor, and not a very good one either ... he turned out to be an okay president but the world laughed good
                   - Devised and executed a strategy that ended the Cold War and led to the overthrow of Communism in USSR
                   - Economic policies led to the longest period of growth in US history
    ==========A couple Varegg forgot===============================
    * Carter - Oversaw the worst economy since the Great Depression...to include today's
                 - That pesky Iranian hostage thing
    * Ford - Placeholder
              - Restored some semblance of confidence in Washington
    ========================================================
    * Nixon - Tricky Dick, did he do anything good at all ?
                - Detente...look it up
                - Ended Vietnam War
    * Lyndon B. Johnson - Responsible for killing thousands of Americas finest for nothing, for absolutely nothing ...
                                   - Ground-breaking civil rights legislation
    ===============Couple more that Varegg forgot=======================
    * Kennedy - Expanded Vietnam War
                        - Faced down Soviet bullshit over Cuba...barely avoided nuclear holocaust
    * Eisenhower - Started American intervention in Vietnam
                        - Continued Truman's policies for the rebuilding of Europe (you're all welcome, btw)
    ==========================================================
    * Harry S. Truman - He saved Europe and rebuild it, the right man in the right job at the right time ... brought the US to it's peek of popularity
                                - Second only to Bush in low approval rating when leaving office...now considered one of the top ten of all time
    * Roosevelt - Maybe the best liked US president ever globally, he won WW2 ... technically Truman did but Roosevelt is the Hero



And what we think of the next election results
McCain/Palin - More of the global instability we have now and a Christian fundamentalism as bad as it's ME counterparts
                   - McCain isn't a Christian fundamentalist
                   - Has an understanding of the scope of power of the President and the Executive Branch
Obama/Biden - Peace
                    - How exactly is that?
                    - Thinks the President can just say it and it is so...at least to hear him promise the world.
Those are just off the top of my head. See what I mean about it not being the "whole truth"? Even the best ones had flaws...even the bad ones had shining moments.
First off: Seeing as though your arguments did not refute any of what Varegg said, I think you'll agree that "numbingly stupid" was a numbingly stupid knee-jerk reaction by a moron who felt offended by the post but had nothing to say about it.

Now as for your comments. Agree on Clinton - don't know why the Dems think he's a god or sth...

and I just can't keep from saying that there are a lot of things that contributed to the fall of Communism in Russia, the least of which was Reagan's plan.
ƒ³
2008-09-24 06:59:13
Shahter
Zee Ruskie
+295|7246|Moscow, Russia

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

Varegg wrote:

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

lol you act like interaction with other countries is vital.

The U.S. of A. is a sovereign nation. That means we get to do whatever we want with our country, and frankly it's none of your business. Of course there will also be ripple effects, and frankly those shouldn't concern us either. There is a reason that Europeans can't vote in our nation - it's our nation. We want our vote to stand beside those votes who also directly stand to lose or gain based on the success of the nation, and so until we get to vote on European presidents you can leave our election alone.
Ehr ... i dont think you understand the issue here, this thread is mainly about how foreigners view you Americans as stereotypes and trying to understand why ... it has nothing at all to do with who can vote in the election in the US ... where did you get that idea ?

And i honestly though you knew the importance of countries working together rather than against eachother ...
Why should we care what you think if you're not voting?

You miss the third case of leaving each other alone.
well, fine - how about you pay your debts to the rest of the world and then go fuck yourself up as much as you want, huh? you cannot be a part of something - and you ARE a major part of this world, aren't you? - and do whatever you want to yourself without thinking about the rest of the system. you are about to elect a zombie for a president and a histerical cunt for VP in there - well, don't be surprised that others are conserned.
if you open your mind too much your brain will fall out.
2008-09-24 07:49:15
Pug
UR father's brother's nephew's former roommate
+652|7013|Texas - Bigger than France

Varegg wrote:

Ford is not a well known President and neither is Carter or Eisenhower hence why i left them out ... i could have listed all 43 but i didn't ...
So Europe doesn't remember Eisenhower?

Really?

I guess Eisenhower is a pretty easy guy to forget, with you living in Europe, where he's never been.






O wait

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2008-09-24 08:03:00
ATG
Banned
+5,233|7000|Global Command

usmarine wrote:

see people want to believe there will be change in an election.  i have been alive for a few now and has SS or health care got any better since the 80's?  no.  its sad people actually think and believe who they pick will bring ultimate change.
Change will not come by sticking with a two party system.
2008-09-24 08:03:47
SEREVENT
MASSIVE G STAR
+605|6578|Birmingham, UK

oug wrote:

Vax wrote:

Varegg wrote:

All heads of state represent their country, many of the US presidents have made a lasting impression on the rest of the world for both better and worse ...

Some examples of how the Eurotrash views it
  • Bush Jr. - Daddy bought him the presidency ... twice
  • Clinton - The man that brought the US back on track and introduced a new use of cigars
  • Bush Sr. - Shows that a corrupt company of powerful men can indeed peacefully take over the most powerful nation in the world
  • Reagan - An actor, and not a very good one either ... he turned out to be an okay president but the world laughed good
  • Nixon - Tricky Dick, did he do anything good at all ?
  • Lyndon B. Johnson - Responsible for killing thousands of Americas finest for nothing, for absolutely nothing ...
  • Harry S. Truman - He saved Europe and rebuild it, the right man in the right job at the right time ... brought the US to it's peek of popularity
  • Roosevelt - Maybe the best liked US president ever globally, he won WW2 ... technically Truman did but Roosevelt is the Hero


And what we think of the next election results
McCain/Palin - More of the global instability we have now and a Christian fundamentalism as bad as it's ME counterparts
Obama/Biden - Peace

As it looks right now this may infact be the most important election ever and the entire globe is watching ...
I fear for the future. 

The mind numbing stupidity and lack of historical knowledge is astounding; reading this post makes me truly sad.


 
You ARE kidding right? Pls say you are j/k
So what is so numbingly stupid about this post?
Off the top of my head...nothings wrong with it, apart from the fact he thought Nixon did nothing...
2008-09-24 08:21:12
oug
Calmer than you are.
+380|6990|Πάϊ

SEREVENT wrote:

Off the top of my head...nothings wrong with it, apart from the fact he thought Nixon did nothing...
You're right, he did a lot of things. Off the top of my head: He bombed Cambodia. He bombed Laos. Him and Kissinger played a key role in the Cyprus invasion (by backing the coup in Greece etc) and helped or created every military dictatorship in South America. Watergate scandal. Need I go on.
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2008-09-24 09:43:06
Varegg
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Pug wrote:

Varegg wrote:

Ford is not a well known President and neither is Carter or Eisenhower hence why i left them out ... i could have listed all 43 but i didn't ...
So Europe doesn't remember Eisenhower?

Really?

I guess Eisenhower is a pretty easy guy to forget, with you living in Europe, where he's never been.






O wait
If you bother to read the post again it says some examples, it's even in the part you quoted that i said i didn't list all 43 ... besides Eisenhower is not a well known President overseas, he is famous for other things like being supreme commander of the allied forces in Europe ...
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