What do you guys think? (Building compy for friend)

2008-09-25 18:34:08

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GodFather: Blademaster's bottom bitch; +387|6486|Phoenix, AZ

So this is what I got as of now

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6811133021 - Thermaltake Armor Series VA8003BWS Black Full Tower Case w/ 25CM Fan - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6811999153 - Thermaltake A2387 80mm Blue LED Case Fan - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6813131325 - ASUS M3A78 Pro AM2+/AM2 AMD 780G HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6817341002 - OCZ GameXStream OCZ700GXSSLI 700W ATX12V SLI Certified CrossFire Ready Active PFC Power Supply - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6819103280 - AMD Phenom 9850 2.5GHz Socket AM2+ 125W Quad-Core Processor Model HD9850XAJ4BGH - OEM

OCZ Reaper HPC 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6820227289

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6822136218 - Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD6400AAKS 640GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6835106102 - Thermaltake CL-P0401 110mm Full-Range Fan CPU Cooler - Retail

(Needs O/S and Graphics card, the one that was in my wishlist is sold out, and thermal paste)

Basic Specs:

CPU: AMD Phenom 9850 2.5GHz

RAM: OCZ Reaper HPC 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2

GPU: (Probably) 8800 512mb G92

O/S: Windows Vista Ultimate x64

Now, I sort of just picked the CPU and the PSU and the RAM, so can you guys tell me what you think? Or post something better? Hows that Processor, im not sure about AMD these days (btw I made an Intel based CPU and it cost about 1500, Intel is just a tad too expensive, and no we cant spend another 200$ for a 1.5x better computer)

Im mainly concerned about the Mobo, he wont Overclock, and I'm lost on motherboards theses days, so feel free to replace that too (not too expensive though)

I'm trying to keep the total cost around 1200-1350 including everything (except peripherals)

What he will be running: Games like Crysis, Supreme Commander, BF2, etc. (So some high resource hogs) and probably a lot of programs (Messengers, Firefox, iTunes etc.)

Thanks for taking a look guys, and remember this isnt the final build, but were going to need to order it soon... Thanks

2008-09-25 21:04:44

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dill13: Member; +67|6460

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something like that intel processors are much faster then amds. If he has no plan to overclock just replace the thermal paste with the one I suggested and the cooling will be more then adequate.

2008-09-29 20:22:11

#3

GodFather: Blademaster's bottom bitch; +387|6486|Phoenix, AZ

Sweet, thanks

PS: Is that Gigabyte card good? or can I get an EVGA card? (step up, replacement etc. I just like the company)

edit: Does EVGA even make Radeons?

Last edited by GodFather (2008-09-29 20:40:54)

2008-09-29 20:51:13

#4

bugz: Fission Mailed; +3,311|6578

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$1130.90

Scratch the monitor if you don't need it. Brings you down to approx. $930.91 leaves you several hundred dollars to play with. Maybe a better video card or a better/bigger case.

Edit: you don't need a quad core unless you're doing 3D/video rendering. Most applications nowadays barely use 1core to it's full potential.

Last edited by ebug9 (2008-09-29 20:53:22)

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2008-09-29 21:23:08

#5

Wallpaper: ☺; +303|6260|The pool

GodFather wrote:
Sweet, thanks

PS: Is that Gigabyte card good? or can I get an EVGA card? (step up, replacement etc. I just like the company)

edit: Does EVGA even make Radeons?

4870 is pretty rape-o-licious. Next thing up from it is the 4870x2 or the 280GTX, but they are quite expensive. Yes Gigabyte is good, no EVGA does not deal with ATI cards.

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2008-09-29 21:31:40

#6

GodFather: Blademaster's bottom bitch; +387|6486|Phoenix, AZ

Wallpaper wrote:
GodFather wrote:
Sweet, thanks

PS: Is that Gigabyte card good? or can I get an EVGA card? (step up, replacement etc. I just like the company)

edit: Does EVGA even make Radeons?
4870 is pretty rape-o-licious. Next thing up from it is the 4870x2 or the 280GTX, but they are quite expensive. Yes Gigabyte is good, no EVGA does not deal with ATI cards.

What do you think about Ebugs case rig/setup?

And @ Ebug, Im pretty happy with the compy I got built with the added shit,

Whats the main difference between our two builds?

edit: Fixed....

Last edited by GodFather (2008-09-29 22:00:32)

2008-09-29 22:16:53

#7

Wallpaper: ☺; +303|6260|The pool

GodFather wrote:
Wallpaper wrote:
GodFather wrote:
Sweet, thanks

PS: Is that Gigabyte card good? or can I get an EVGA card? (step up, replacement etc. I just like the company)

edit: Does EVGA even make Radeons?
4870 is pretty rape-o-licious. Next thing up from it is the 4870x2 or the 280GTX, but they are quite expensive. Yes Gigabyte is good, no EVGA does not deal with ATI cards.
What do you think about Ebugs case rig/setup?

Looks pretty good to me. If your friend doesnt need the monitor, IMO go for a 4870 instead of upgrading the case. (Not saying the 4850 is a bad choice, as it quite a bit faster than the 8800, but the 4870 goes wooooosh benchies here)

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2008-09-30 00:51:00

#8

GodFather: Blademaster's bottom bitch; +387|6486|Phoenix, AZ

What about ebug's processor vs. dill's quad-core?

I mean, Im trying to build the best computer for the pre-agreed price of about $1,300 so we dont really need to cut costs that much

2008-09-30 01:05:26

#9

max: Vela Incident; +1,652|6834|NYC / Hamburg

GodFather wrote:
What about ebug's processor vs. dill's quad-core?

I mean, Im trying to build the best computer for the pre-agreed price of about $1,300 so we dont really need to cut costs that much

the q9300 will hit 3.5GHz with some luck. The e8400 can easily do 4GHz+

Personally, if you're going for cheap get an e5200, decent mobo and a HD 4870 or even HD4870X2

Last edited by max (2008-09-30 01:08:12)

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2008-09-30 02:54:33

#10

RDMC: Enemy Wheelbarrow Spotted..!!; +736|6831|Area 51

You just gots to get a HD4850 or HD4870. As I am sure alot of people have told you in this topic. Also, I wouldn't go with AMD processor but with a Intel quad core, or a good dual core one. As Max already pointed out the e8400 can easily do 4ghz if not more. I am not up to date about the quad core processors but I think I speak for most people here that intel quad cores > amd quad cores

Last edited by RDMC (2008-09-30 02:55:02)

2008-09-30 02:57:09

#11

DUnlimited: got any popo lolo intersting?; +1,160|6730|cuntshitlake

RDMC wrote:
You just gots to get a HD4850 or HD4870. As I am sure alot of people have told you in this topic. Also, I wouldn't go with AMD processor but with a Intel quad core, or a good dual core one. As Max already pointed out the e8400 can easily do 4ghz if not more. I am not up to date about the quad core processors but I think I speak for most people here that intel quad cores > amd quad cores

Intel dual cores > amd quad cores.

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2008-09-30 02:59:24

#12

max: Vela Incident; +1,652|6834|NYC / Hamburg

RDMC wrote:
You just gots to get a HD4850 or HD4870. As I am sure alot of people have told you in this topic. Also, I wouldn't go with AMD processor but with a Intel quad core, or a good dual core one. As Max already pointed out the e8400 can easily do 4ghz if not more. I am not up to date about the quad core processors but I think I speak for most people here that intel quad cores > amd quad cores

They are. AMD quads are slower but not much cheaper. Only in a heavily multi-threaded environment do they make any sense. For gaming, going with an intel dual core gives you the best performance, performance/$ and often performance/W

_{once upon a midnight dreary, while i pron surfed, weak and weary, over many a strange and spurious site of ' hot xxx galore'. While i clicked my fav'rite bookmark, suddenly there came a warning, and my heart was filled with mourning, mourning for my dear amour, " 'Tis not possible!", i muttered, " give me back my free hardcore!"..... quoth the server, 404.}

2008-09-30 03:30:27

#13

RDMC: Enemy Wheelbarrow Spotted..!!; +736|6831|Area 51

max wrote:
RDMC wrote:
You just gots to get a HD4850 or HD4870. As I am sure alot of people have told you in this topic. Also, I wouldn't go with AMD processor but with a Intel quad core, or a good dual core one. As Max already pointed out the e8400 can easily do 4ghz if not more. I am not up to date about the quad core processors but I think I speak for most people here that intel quad cores > amd quad cores
They are. AMD quads are slower but not much cheaper. Only in a heavily multi-threaded environment do they make any sense. For gaming, going with an intel dual core gives you the best performance, performance/$ and often performance/W

In that case he should get a dual core . And I just oc'ed mine to 4.3 ghz, woohoo!

Pic or it did happen!

https://img442.imageshack.us/img442/2739/3dmark06fm8.jpg

Right click > view picture for full view

Last edited by RDMC (2008-09-30 03:31:36)

2008-09-30 06:38:19

#14

Freezer7Pro: I don't come here a lot anymore.; +1,447|6464|Winland

RDMC wrote:
max wrote:
RDMC wrote:
You just gots to get a HD4850 or HD4870. As I am sure alot of people have told you in this topic. Also, I wouldn't go with AMD processor but with a Intel quad core, or a good dual core one. As Max already pointed out the e8400 can easily do 4ghz if not more. I am not up to date about the quad core processors but I think I speak for most people here that intel quad cores > amd quad cores
They are. AMD quads are slower but not much cheaper. Only in a heavily multi-threaded environment do they make any sense. For gaming, going with an intel dual core gives you the best performance, performance/$ and often performance/W
In that case he should get a dual core . And I just oc'ed mine to 4.3 ghz, woohoo!

Pic or it did happen!

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/2739/3dmark06fm8.jpg

Right click > view picture for full view

Now just to get it stable with reasonable voltages

The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP

2008-09-30 06:45:40

#15

RDMC: Enemy Wheelbarrow Spotted..!!; +736|6831|Area 51

Freezer7Pro wrote:
RDMC wrote:
max wrote:

They are. AMD quads are slower but not much cheaper. Only in a heavily multi-threaded environment do they make any sense. For gaming, going with an intel dual core gives you the best performance, performance/$ and often performance/W
In that case he should get a dual core . And I just oc'ed mine to 4.3 ghz, woohoo!

Pic or it did happen!

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/2739/3dmark06fm8.jpg

Right click > view picture for full view
Now just to get it stable with reasonable voltages

System optimizes the voltages by itself. So it is stable

2008-09-30 07:04:44

#16

Freezer7Pro: I don't come here a lot anymore.; +1,447|6464|Winland

RDMC wrote:
Freezer7Pro wrote:
RDMC wrote:

In that case he should get a dual core . And I just oc'ed mine to 4.3 ghz, woohoo!

Pic or it did happen!

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/2739/3dmark06fm8.jpg

Right click > view picture for full view
Now just to get it stable with reasonable voltages
System optimizes the voltages by itself. So it is stable

You're probably frying your CPU right now. As I've said before:

My sticky wrote:
Auto is evil. It'll come to your house and rape your dog whilst your kids are watching.

Wouldn't surprise me if it's running somewhere between 1.4 and 1.6V.

The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP

2008-09-30 07:09:23

#17

max: Vela Incident; +1,652|6834|NYC / Hamburg

RDMC wrote:
Freezer7Pro wrote:
RDMC wrote:
In that case he should get a dual core . And I just oc'ed mine to 4.3 ghz, woohoo!

Pic or it did happen!

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/2739/3dmark06fm8.jpg

Right click > view picture for full view
Now just to get it stable with reasonable voltages
System optimizes the voltages by itself. So it is stable

Freezer7Pro wrote:
Now just to get it stable with reasonable voltages

The auto voltage always overvolts. Adjust them manually

Freezer7Pro wrote:
Wouldn't surprise me if it's running somewhere between 1.4 and 1.6V.

agree. You really shouldn't be going above 1.4V if you don't want to kill your CPU. I guess that would be called SWDS then

Last edited by max (2008-09-30 07:41:29)

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2008-09-30 17:46:28

#18

MECtallica: Member; +73|6771|jalalabad

you're building it for me right?

2008-09-30 17:51:11

#19

Defiance: Member; +438|6937

Code:

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2008-09-30 18:54:40

#20

GodFather: Blademaster's bottom bitch; +387|6486|Phoenix, AZ

So,

Get > This?

And This?

Last edited by GodFather (2008-09-30 18:56:11)

2008-09-30 20:32:16

#21

Defiance: Member; +438|6937

GodFather wrote:
So,

Get > This?

And This?

Good, though I would recommend a different videocard. That is overpriced for a 4850 and that cooler is.. passive? That's a pretty dinky heatsink to be passive.

This Gigabyte 4850 or..
This Powercolor 4850.

Powercolor's cheaper too.

2008-10-01 00:21:42

#22

GodFather: Blademaster's bottom bitch; +387|6486|Phoenix, AZ

Defiance wrote:
GodFather wrote:
So,

Get > This?

And This?
Good, though I would recommend a different videocard. That is overpriced for a 4850 and that cooler is.. passive? That's a pretty dinky heatsink to be passive.

This Gigabyte 4850 or..
This Powercolor 4850.

Powercolor's cheaper too.

I think Im going to go with the Gigabyte Thanks

Now, (might as well) while I'm at it, I need a good CPU Cooler... I was going to get This but its deactivated, I'm very pleased with that on my CPU right now, and I need one thats $50-$80

(I would go pick one myself but I'd much rather hear from people who actually own/use them to tell me what kind of temps they get)

Thanks for all the help you guys, so far im like $250 under my grand total of my previous build and this one is way better...

2008-10-01 05:56:26

#23

DUnlimited: got any popo lolo intersting?; +1,160|6730|cuntshitlake

GodFather wrote:
Defiance wrote:
This Gigabyte 4850
I think Im going to go with the Gigabyte Thanks

My 8800GT has that same cooler, it's pretty leet

GodFather wrote:
Now, (might as well) while I'm at it, I need a good CPU Cooler

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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6835154001
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6835118019

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2008-10-01 06:27:46

#24

max: Vela Incident; +1,652|6834|NYC / Hamburg

For an e8400 a Freezer 7 Pro will do. The OCs on those chips are anyhow voltage limited and not temperature limited

_{once upon a midnight dreary, while i pron surfed, weak and weary, over many a strange and spurious site of ' hot xxx galore'. While i clicked my fav'rite bookmark, suddenly there came a warning, and my heart was filled with mourning, mourning for my dear amour, " 'Tis not possible!", i muttered, " give me back my free hardcore!"..... quoth the server, 404.}

2008-10-01 23:10:07

#25

GodFather: Blademaster's bottom bitch; +387|6486|Phoenix, AZ

This one?

Thats all an Intel chip needs? Damn.

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