Mek-Stizzle wrote:
Kuffar wrote:
I find that the best way to respect my country and the continent to which it is nearest is to realistically assess our strengths and weaknesses and then measure those against the level of hostility and competition in the world at large.
What hostility and competition?
Russia? The UK alone could destroy every single major Russian city. (Trident)
Islam? Well you're not going to defeat it by invading other countries half way around the world. The UK could easily sort the problem out if we had a competent enough government. The threat of Islamic terrorism is an internal one that we can easily sort out on our own.
Iran/North Korea etc.. ? Not a chance that they're a threat to the UK. Besides, it's not like we can't do to Iran what I said we could do to Russia, on our own. If it really went to that stage.
Besides, the majority of this hostility towards the UK has been created because of the US. In that way, you could describe the UK as a prozzie and the US as the pimp. Or even how Organised Criminals run "Protection" rackets.
Oh dear lord. Everything you have written is wrong.
The Russians may not be able to afford to maintain their strategic nuclear weapons properly (which is an additional threat) but they could still kill every living thing in Britain and France without breaking a sweat. We could not visit the same upon them.
Their conventional forces are not what they were, but nor are ours after decades of defence cuts across Europe. Plus while the Russians control our gas supplies they don't really need the tanks, they can ensure that the Germans do as they are told and the rest of the EU can be made to fall into line. If you doubt this ask the Georgians about it. Poles, Czechs and Ukrainians may have some insights also.
Islamic supremacism is both a domestic and international problem in my view. There is considerable evidence that Saddam was funding terrorist groups that shared Bin Laden's aims and agenda and indeed were participating in the same battlefields. Al Qaeda made its base in Afghanistan because the Taliban invited it to. Deposing Saddam has removed a brutal dictator and an enemy of the West. Attacking the Taliban has severely disrupted their activities and those of Al Qaeda, though progess there has not been as dramatic as in Iraq.
The internal threats are being funded and developed by foreign money and the UK branches of international groups such as the Muslim Brotherhood, the Hizb, Jamaat Tablighi and others. We now have a significant homegrown problem but this cannot be defeated in isolation from its original source, which is international in scope.
Iran/N./Korea: Any nuclear armed state can quickly become a threat to the UK. Neither country can yet field missiles that will strike Europe but that does not mean that they will not actively seek to buy or develop the technology from other competitors or enemies (Russia, China?) Both states oppress their people in the name of ideologies that contain great hatred towards us and our way of life. You earlier invited me to 'grow a spine', perhaps you will live up to your rhetoric and recognise this fact publically? If that does not represent a threat to our interests, how would you define it?
Your assumption that hostility to the UK is generated by the US is misplaced. Even if it weren't, would you make common cause with your enemy because he does not like your friend? The reality is that if Israel and the US were not there, and by some miracle Europe was, the gaze of our enemies would simply fall directly upon us. You would not enjoy that.
Last edited by Kuffar (2008-10-01 05:20:49)
