No, I think she can see Iran from her backyard too.Braddock wrote:
Because Sarah Palin has so much time for the gay community?deeznutz1245 wrote:
I see absolutely no reason to think that Iran would act iresponsible with nuclear weapons. Hanging folks for being Christian isn't crazy. You guys are over reacting. Fuck Sarah Palin too, she should have stopped the hangings. Bitch.
war mongers ,hmmmmmmmm war has ended slavery, genocide, oppression, the Nazis and now we fight terrorism. I guess you would just talk to them huh? I also wonder how Ireland gained its freedom from England, I guess that is something different.Braddock wrote:
There is a conflict at the moment between the moderate youth of Iran and the stone age loving Mullahs currently in power. When Ireland played Iran in a world cup qualifier a couple of years back the Irish fans even reported many mini-riots by youths after the game, many Iranians had said it was anger born out of dissatisfaction with the Government. Unfortunately the US foreign policy in the Middle East in recent years seems to have galvanised the likes of Amadinnerjacket and undone any progress or momentum that might have been behind the moderate movement.usmarine wrote:
because i dont think a law like that would go over too well in the US or Europe correct? and last time I checked, they can hang gays and murder women for the fuck of it in a shit ton of ME countries. so you tell me why.Braddock wrote:
I don't bundle all Americans in with the fat, war-mongering, stupid, brash, ignorant ones so why should I bundle all Iranians in with the towel-headed crazies?
But never mind any of those trivial details... fuck Iran.
America's full of right wing Christian war mongers too, yeah? And you all want creationism taught in schools and want Israel to exist primarily so we can all enjoy the rapture soon?
war ended slavery?lowing wrote:
war mongers ,hmmmmmmmm war has ended slavery, genocide, oppression, the Nazis and now we fight terrorism. I guess you would just talk to them huh? I also wonder how Ireland gained its freedom from England, I guess that is something different.Braddock wrote:
There is a conflict at the moment between the moderate youth of Iran and the stone age loving Mullahs currently in power. When Ireland played Iran in a world cup qualifier a couple of years back the Irish fans even reported many mini-riots by youths after the game, many Iranians had said it was anger born out of dissatisfaction with the Government. Unfortunately the US foreign policy in the Middle East in recent years seems to have galvanised the likes of Amadinnerjacket and undone any progress or momentum that might have been behind the moderate movement.usmarine wrote:
because i dont think a law like that would go over too well in the US or Europe correct? and last time I checked, they can hang gays and murder women for the fuck of it in a shit ton of ME countries. so you tell me why.
But never mind any of those trivial details... fuck Iran.
America's full of right wing Christian war mongers too, yeah? And you all want creationism taught in schools and want Israel to exist primarily so we can all enjoy the rapture soon?
Small hourglass island
Always raining and foggy
Use an umbrella
Always raining and foggy
Use an umbrella
The rest just want to play football.
I think it's apparent what he means: not all cases, but some cases. As to Ireland, well...FatherTed wrote:
war ended slavery?lowing wrote:
war mongers ,hmmmmmmmm war has ended slavery, genocide, oppression, the Nazis and now we fight terrorism. I guess you would just talk to them huh? I also wonder how Ireland gained its freedom from England, I guess that is something different.
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U forget that war GAVE us nazi's.... then it took another war to get rid of them. how constructivelowing wrote:
war mongers ,hmmmmmmmm war has ended slavery, genocide, oppression, the Nazis and now we fight terrorism. I guess you would just talk to them huh? I also wonder how Ireland gained its freedom from England, I guess that is something different.Braddock wrote:
There is a conflict at the moment between the moderate youth of Iran and the stone age loving Mullahs currently in power. When Ireland played Iran in a world cup qualifier a couple of years back the Irish fans even reported many mini-riots by youths after the game, many Iranians had said it was anger born out of dissatisfaction with the Government. Unfortunately the US foreign policy in the Middle East in recent years seems to have galvanised the likes of Amadinnerjacket and undone any progress or momentum that might have been behind the moderate movement.usmarine wrote:
because i dont think a law like that would go over too well in the US or Europe correct? and last time I checked, they can hang gays and murder women for the fuck of it in a shit ton of ME countries. so you tell me why.
But never mind any of those trivial details... fuck Iran.
America's full of right wing Christian war mongers too, yeah? And you all want creationism taught in schools and want Israel to exist primarily so we can all enjoy the rapture soon?
I love the way you think lowing; always in absolutes... war was good once so it must be good all the time, yeah?lowing wrote:
war mongers ,hmmmmmmmm war has ended slavery, genocide, oppression, the Nazis and now we fight terrorism. I guess you would just talk to them huh? I also wonder how Ireland gained its freedom from England, I guess that is something different.Braddock wrote:
There is a conflict at the moment between the moderate youth of Iran and the stone age loving Mullahs currently in power. When Ireland played Iran in a world cup qualifier a couple of years back the Irish fans even reported many mini-riots by youths after the game, many Iranians had said it was anger born out of dissatisfaction with the Government. Unfortunately the US foreign policy in the Middle East in recent years seems to have galvanised the likes of Amadinnerjacket and undone any progress or momentum that might have been behind the moderate movement.usmarine wrote:
because i dont think a law like that would go over too well in the US or Europe correct? and last time I checked, they can hang gays and murder women for the fuck of it in a shit ton of ME countries. so you tell me why.
But never mind any of those trivial details... fuck Iran.
America's full of right wing Christian war mongers too, yeah? And you all want creationism taught in schools and want Israel to exist primarily so we can all enjoy the rapture soon?
The Russians had a great war against the Georgians recently, they defeated the Georgian hordes and liberated the poor, oppressed South Ossetians. It was a great day for freedom wasn't it... because war is always black and white, no?
Was more the way the treaty after the war was handled that led to the Nazis getting their wayLittle BaBy JESUS wrote:
U forget that war GAVE us nazi's.... then it took another war to get rid of them. how constructivelowing wrote:
war mongers ,hmmmmmmmm war has ended slavery, genocide, oppression, the Nazis and now we fight terrorism. I guess you would just talk to them huh? I also wonder how Ireland gained its freedom from England, I guess that is something different.Braddock wrote:
There is a conflict at the moment between the moderate youth of Iran and the stone age loving Mullahs currently in power. When Ireland played Iran in a world cup qualifier a couple of years back the Irish fans even reported many mini-riots by youths after the game, many Iranians had said it was anger born out of dissatisfaction with the Government. Unfortunately the US foreign policy in the Middle East in recent years seems to have galvanised the likes of Amadinnerjacket and undone any progress or momentum that might have been behind the moderate movement.
But never mind any of those trivial details... fuck Iran.
America's full of right wing Christian war mongers too, yeah? And you all want creationism taught in schools and want Israel to exist primarily so we can all enjoy the rapture soon?
The sources you approve of rarely cover persecution and execution of Christians for their faith. You trust official Iranian sources would report this and since they don't it's false? I know you dislike Christians, but give me a break.GorillaTicTacs wrote:
... nothing on msm and nothing from official Iranian sources ...
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Thats exactly the kind of thinking that justified the invasion of Iraq. Ive heard it before and I honestly dont believe it.Braddock wrote:
There is a conflict at the moment between the moderate youth of Iran and the stone age loving Mullahs currently in power.usmarine wrote:
because i dont think a law like that would go over too well in the US or Europe correct? and last time I checked, they can hang gays and murder women for the fuck of it in a shit ton of ME countries. so you tell me why.Braddock wrote:
I don't bundle all Americans in with the fat, war-mongering, stupid, brash, ignorant ones so why should I bundle all Iranians in with the towel-headed crazies?
Did you know Chalabi, the dude that probably influenced the Bush administration the most about the acceptance of an American occupation by Iraqis was in fact, an agent from tehran.
Ive been reading Robert Baer's latest. Good read. Lots of facts. Iran is fucking evil. and, there is absolutely nothing the United States can do to stimey their regional hegemony.
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I simply can't accept that the entire nation of Iran is evil... I can however believe quite easily that a coven of nutjob Islamists are leading it down an increasingly Nationalist road, much like Bush and the Neocons did with the US (or tried to do).God Save the Queen wrote:
Thats exactly the kind of thinking that justified the invasion of Iraq. Ive heard it before and I honestly dont believe it.Braddock wrote:
There is a conflict at the moment between the moderate youth of Iran and the stone age loving Mullahs currently in power.usmarine wrote:
because i dont think a law like that would go over too well in the US or Europe correct? and last time I checked, they can hang gays and murder women for the fuck of it in a shit ton of ME countries. so you tell me why.
Did you know Chalabi, the dude that probably influenced the Bush administration the most about the acceptance of an American occupation by Iraqis was in fact, an agent from tehran.
Ive been reading Robert Baer's latest. Good read. Lots of facts. Iran is fucking evil. and, there is absolutely nothing the United States can do to stimey their regional hegemony.
i must have missed the part where they started trying to hang homosexuals...Braddock wrote:
I simply can't accept that the entire nation of Iran is evil... I can however believe quite easily that a coven of nutjob Islamists are leading it down an increasingly Nationalist road, much like Bush and the Neocons did with the US (or tried to do).
the Iranian goverment is the people. I think youd find that moderate element in society that gets talked about so much is just as fickle as any other nations citizens.
Somewhat off topic - and weird to me...
Rhinoplasty All the Rage in Iran
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=2877504
Rhinoplasty All the Rage in Iran
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=2877504
That is the case in Iran, which has been called the "nose job capital of the world."
In Iran, there is no stigma to getting a nose job. Many women openly wear "bandages of honor" on their noses to show they've had the operation. (ABC News)
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Iran also has a lot of state funded sex changes.topal63 wrote:
Somewhat off topic - and weired to me...
Rhinoplasty All the Rage in Iran
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=2877504That is the case in Iran, which has been called the "nose job capital of the world."
In Iran, there is no stigma to getting a nose job. Many women openly wear "bandages of honor" on their noses to show they've had the operation.
(ABC News)
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now, i can see the nose job thing....but state funded sex changes?God Save the Queen wrote:
Iran also has a lot of state funded sex changes.topal63 wrote:
Somewhat off topic - and weired to me...
Rhinoplasty All the Rage in Iran
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=2877504That is the case in Iran, which has been called the "nose job capital of the world."
In Iran, there is no stigma to getting a nose job. Many women openly wear "bandages of honor" on their noses to show they've had the operation.
(ABC News)
are those punishments, like castration or what?
Iran has two elements running it, the Ayatollah and the military. Iran is more of a police state than a theocratic state.
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http://www.randomhouse.com/catalog/disp … 0307408648
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http://aidanmaconachyblog.blogspot.com/ … poses.htmlParker wrote:
now, i can see the nose job thing....but state funded sex changes?God Save the Queen wrote:
Iran also has a lot of state funded sex changes.topal63 wrote:
Somewhat off topic - and weird to me...
Rhinoplasty All the Rage in Iran
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=2877504
are those punishments, like castration or what?
Forced(?, not sure about how much choice, social pressure or if just state ordered) conformity to Theocratic standards(???).
http://www.belikeothers.com/
(What the Eshaghian) film reveals is a culture so steeped in hatred of gays and lesbians that it deems a sex change preferable to simply accepting differences in sexual orientation. The shift in policy came more than two decades ago, when Ayatollah Ruholla Khomeini issued a fatwa (religious decree) declaring sex changes permissible for “diagnosed transsexuals.” Be Like Others introduces us to a number of the people who have been given this label. Some have accepted their fate, and feel the sex change to be a way to avoid further persecution; others are clearly uncomfortable with the idea, but have agreed to it simply because of intense outside pressure.
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The more I learn the more I come to the conclusion Iran is NOT a theocracy.
Khomeini chose as his successor a man that was not as qualified as his original. He chose Khamenei, the current supreme leader of Iran, not because of his religious indoctrination, but because he had the loyalty of the revolutionary guard. The Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps owns most of Iran.
Khomeini chose as his successor a man that was not as qualified as his original. He chose Khamenei, the current supreme leader of Iran, not because of his religious indoctrination, but because he had the loyalty of the revolutionary guard. The Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps owns most of Iran.
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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,386789,00.html
Here is some more.
Here is some more.
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What about the gays? They already know that they are in the hot zone which strictly prohibits being a butt pirate.Warhammer wrote:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iran/3179465/Hanged-for-being-a-Christian-in-Iran.html
There you go. Innocent people being persecuted during radical times, and they push for laws in executing innocent people for their beliefs.
Not only that there have been reports of gays being hung as well.