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topal63 wrote:

lowing wrote:

topal63 wrote:

WOW, that statement speaks volumes to me.

PS: Having any American employees on American soil is not necessary either.

Is there something I said that is not true?


I am not saying that a company should not be abligated t ofund any pension that was agreed to when an employee joined the company, I think they should grandfather those. But for some reason it seems to be thought of as a RIGHT that people have that a compnay is obligated to take care of their every need outside a paycheck. We ask employers for work, employers offer benefits to attract quality employees away from their competitors. When did you decide that a company is obligated to offer benfits to its employees and why do you think they should?

Yes that is necessary, if you are here ILLEGALLY then you are breaking the law.

It's funny, to me IMO, that you injected ILLEGAL aliens into the equation. Open ended general statements can allow a mind to wander wherever its' bias might take it.

I was loosely suggesting in a capitalist dominated ideology/system that is completely disconnected from the benefits and from benefiting the working class; labor class; middle class - such clear disconnects create social problems. And, can be; or is; regulation of the worst possible kind (also, even no regulation itself is a type of regulation). And, having no regulations that benefit the worker such as keeping industry on American soil - means a company can downsize the legal American labor-force out of existence. Globalization you know - downsizing - relocating a plant overseas - exploiting workers and lax-regulations abroad; etc. Then an honest man/woman cannot even find a decent job to do the hard work he/she is capable of. Having regulations on the books that benefit keeping decent jobs in America is not a bad thing - it is a good thing. And a positive social agenda.

Your job is due to a positive social agenda, and that collection of taxes that occurs and thence is redistributed, in this case, finding its way to your contractor/employer produces the positive social result of you having a job. It's a good thing.

Last edited by ELITE-UK (2008-10-14 11:28:41)

topal63 wrote:

lowing wrote:

***Actually what drives businesses away is ideology like the liberal minded that companies must be punished for making money in the form of high taxes, after all they have the money to take so why not. Taxing the wealthy to death solves nothing, in fact it has the opposite desired affect. It hinders growth and the bottom-line which in turn affects jobs and payroll. So if you want to blame someone for a company that sends work overseas you only need to look at your unions and your democratic politicians that feel achievement and growth MUST be punished in order to make life "fair" for us all.

You are right I did use ILLEGAL aliens since that is what  I thought you meant. It figures not wanting illegal aliens working in the US would be so offensive to you.

You don't even respond to what I am actually saying or stating. You inject your familiar talking points that have virtually nothing to do with what I am talking about - and then tell me what I am thinking and/or feeling. It's downright bizarre.

I've made a couple attempts to explain basic monetary policy. I've tried to let you know all agendas are socialistic even yours (a conservative agenda is a socialistic agenda). I've tried to let you know monetary policy itself is a socialistic agenda. I haven't mentioned anything yet about the corporate entity - and its role in the Nation. I have only been indicating balance; there is preference within the system it is disproportionate and unfair; and already "punishes" the working lower class, the working lower-middle class; the working middle class and of course anyone on a fixed income.

PS:***That is an untenable statement. It wouldn't matter what word came after: liberal, conservative, social agenda, union agenda or what not. Business do not leave the largest economy. They are allowed by law to leave; relocate shop; and still sell there goods or services in this economy. I will say the obvious again there is no such thing as free-market it's a myth. The real world does not have a panacea market place that is free. There is such a thing, in existence, as the Trade Dept and it is there to mitigate business practices that are unfair to: our economy, local-businesses/industries, even the labor/work-force.