Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|7019|132 and Bush

An NHS trust has spent more than £12,000 on private treatment for hospital staff because its own waiting times are too long.

The National Health Service, Britain’s government-run health care system, finds itself so unresponsive that it doesn’t trust itself to provide care for its employees.  Instead, they paid private physiotherapists to treat its staff rather than wait for NHS providers to become available:
An NHS trust has spent more than £12,000 on private treatment for hospital staff because its own waiting times are too long. The money was used to bring in physiotherapists to help workers recover from muscular-skeletal injuries at West Suffolk Hospital in Bury St Edmunds.

    Bosses said it prevented them from leapfrogging NHS patients and enabled them to return to work more quickly.

    However, the private treatment, which amounted to £12,116 for 271 appointments over the past year, was described by critics as “shocking”.

    Mark Wallace of the TaxPayers’ Alliance said: “Their staff should have to wait like everybody else.  Perhaps if they experienced it as their customers - that is the taxpayer - experienced it, they might be a little keener to improve their waiting times.”
Xbone Stormsurgezz
Braddock
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Kmarion wrote:

An NHS trust has spent more than £12,000 on private treatment for hospital staff because its own waiting times are too long.

The National Health Service, Britain’s government-run health care system, finds itself so unresponsive that it doesn’t trust itself to provide care for its employees.  Instead, they paid private physiotherapists to treat its staff rather than wait for NHS providers to become available:
An NHS trust has spent more than £12,000 on private treatment for hospital staff because its own waiting times are too long. The money was used to bring in physiotherapists to help workers recover from muscular-skeletal injuries at West Suffolk Hospital in Bury St Edmunds.

    Bosses said it prevented them from leapfrogging NHS patients and enabled them to return to work more quickly.

    However, the private treatment, which amounted to £12,116 for 271 appointments over the past year, was described by critics as “shocking”.

    Mark Wallace of the TaxPayers’ Alliance said: “Their staff should have to wait like everybody else.  Perhaps if they experienced it as their customers - that is the taxpayer - experienced it, they might be a little keener to improve their waiting times.”
Socialism is great like that Kmarion, check out these guys in Ireland! NTPF
13rin
Member
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http://biz.yahoo.com/wallstreet/080930/ … .html?.v=1

This immediately came to mind.  Some of our more "financially padded" citizens are taking to other countries for medical procedures too...

Didn't the Canadian guy who's brainchild was their government run healthcare come forward and say he was wrong and that they need to privitize?
I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something.  - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
Braddock
Agitator
+916|6709|Éire

DBBrinson1 wrote:

http://biz.yahoo.com/wallstreet/080930/sb122273570173688551_id.html?.v=1

This immediately came to mind.  Some of our more "financially padded" citizens are taking to other countries for medical procedures too...

Didn't the Canadian guy who's brainchild was their government run healthcare come forward and say he was wrong and that they need to privitize?
Come on now... socialised healthcare might not be perfect but is anyone seriously claiming privatised healthcare is any better? The US is not viewed globally as a a shining example on the issue of healthcare.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|7019|132 and Bush

We have assisted healthcare. We spend much more than anyone else per citizen. Our cost is just out of control. We need to do something. I just don't think a national healthcare solution would fix this.
Xbone Stormsurgezz
Harmor
Error_Name_Not_Found
+605|6967|San Diego, CA, USA
You guys made your bed...now sleep in it.  I just hope we don't follow your lead into this obviously flawed system.
ATG
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It figures.
lowing
Banned
+1,662|7070|USA

Braddock wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

An NHS trust has spent more than £12,000 on private treatment for hospital staff because its own waiting times are too long.

The National Health Service, Britain’s government-run health care system, finds itself so unresponsive that it doesn’t trust itself to provide care for its employees.  Instead, they paid private physiotherapists to treat its staff rather than wait for NHS providers to become available:
An NHS trust has spent more than £12,000 on private treatment for hospital staff because its own waiting times are too long. The money was used to bring in physiotherapists to help workers recover from muscular-skeletal injuries at West Suffolk Hospital in Bury St Edmunds.

    Bosses said it prevented them from leapfrogging NHS patients and enabled them to return to work more quickly.

    However, the private treatment, which amounted to £12,116 for 271 appointments over the past year, was described by critics as “shocking”.

    Mark Wallace of the TaxPayers’ Alliance said: “Their staff should have to wait like everybody else.  Perhaps if they experienced it as their customers - that is the taxpayer - experienced it, they might be a little keener to improve their waiting times.”
Socialism is great like that Kmarion, check out these guys in Ireland! NTPF
If socialism is "great like that" then why in the world do you love it so much, sounds pretty god damned stupid to me.
JahManRed
wank
+646|7046|IRELAND

The NHS is fucked. They part privatised it through the back door. These trust hospitals are built using loans from the private sector. They have managers now who run them like a business. As a result, waiting times have went up and the standard of care has dropped.
It can take 60 years to repay these loans with massive interest, which is about the average lifetime of a hospital building before they have to be rebuilt. Pissing money against the wall and making rich investors richer. They have made the NHS a cash cow for investors at the expense of the tax payer.
That fuck Blair/brown trying to  plug the holes in his budget.

Either fully nationalise or privatise. Somewhere in the middle doesn't work.
Braddock
Agitator
+916|6709|Éire

lowing wrote:

Braddock wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

An NHS trust has spent more than £12,000 on private treatment for hospital staff because its own waiting times are too long.

The National Health Service, Britain’s government-run health care system, finds itself so unresponsive that it doesn’t trust itself to provide care for its employees.  Instead, they paid private physiotherapists to treat its staff rather than wait for NHS providers to become available:

Socialism is great like that Kmarion, check out these guys in Ireland! NTPF
If socialism is "great like that" then why in the world do you love it so much, sounds pretty god damned stupid to me.
I'm serious, socialism is great... I myself have availed of the NTPF in the past. I got private healthcare on the back of my tax payments... a lovely big room in a half empty ward, meals and snacks every couple of hours, 3 or 4 nurses waiting on me... lovely stuff!
PureFodder
Member
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Kmarion wrote:

We have assisted healthcare. We spend much more than anyone else per citizen. Our cost is just out of control. We need to do something. I just don't think a national healthcare solution would fix this.
One of the insane wastes of money in the US system is the per person admin costs. It's something like 6 times as much per person in the US compaired to that of rich western countries with socialized systems. Having hundreds of insurance companies each of which has hundreds of different policies with all manner of differing coverages, copays, etc. means every minor hospital visit creates a huge pile of paperwork that has to be sorted through by someone who really knows what they are doing. A single centralized admin with predominantly one policy would save the US something like $600 billion dollars a year in purely administrative costs.

That's about two thousand dollers per person per year.

Last edited by PureFodder (2008-10-15 10:27:33)

wah1188
You orrible caaaaaaan't
+321|6879|UK
Healthcare is a merit good it is undervalued and underconsumed by the market. Government intervention is needed.
FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
+1,182|6829|'Murka

PureFodder wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

We have assisted healthcare. We spend much more than anyone else per citizen. Our cost is just out of control. We need to do something. I just don't think a national healthcare solution would fix this.
One of the insane wastes of money in the US system is the per person admin costs. It's something like 6 times as much per person in the US compaired to that of rich western countries with socialized systems. Having hundreds of insurance companies each of which has hundreds of different policies with all manner of differing coverages, copays, etc. means every minor hospital visit creates a huge pile of paperwork that has to be sorted through by someone who really knows what they are doing. A single centralized admin with predominantly one policy would save the US something like $600 billion dollars a year in purely administrative costs.

That's about two thousand dollers per person per year.
Don't forget the astronomical costs incurred by frivolous and ridiculously large malpractice suits. Tort reform ftw.
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