Freezer7Pro
I don't come here a lot anymore.
+1,447|6639|Winland

TL;DR: Why are cartoons today so cheap? Just look at Foster's home for imaginary friends, the Power Puff Girls and Chowder, and compare them to the original Scooby Doo, The land before time, and The Flintstones. These new things are nothing but cheap vector graphics, mass produced and rendered in half an hour, relying on funny voices and semi-curse words, funny noises and 10c-a-dozen one-liners for humour. What ever happened with the quality you could find in cartoons ten years ago? If I was a kid (well, a younger kid), and knew about those good old series, I'd boycott the new stuff. If it isn't cheap vector graphics, it's animé, and if it isn't animé, it's cheap 3D graphics.

A couple of days ago, I stumbled upon an old copy of one of my favourite childhood cartoon movies, Balto. Not having anything else to do, and feeling a little nostalgic about the dusty, black cassette of times past, I hooked up my old VCR and 20" CRT TV. It was a nice watch, and I still like the movie now, ten years later, just as much as I did when I was six. It has some wit, looks nice, has an ok story and characters you can attach to. It is one of those older, all-cartoon films from just before the era of computer animation being more economical (not to mention advanced enough) than doing it by hand, giving it that nice feeling of knowing that some guys over at Universal Studios spent a couple of minutes drawing each frame.

Out of curiosity, I checked the Wikipedia page for the movie, and, to my surprise, there had been two sequels made in 2002 and 2005. I thought I might as well catch up on the franchise, as I like watching those kinds of movies before I go to bed, gets my mind off things. A quick search left me with a digitally acquired copy of each of the sequels.

Being based on a true story, it's hard to make decent sequels to the original Balto. I was a bit sceptical when I pressed play and got greeted by some vector-based crow flying around my screen. Things changed after maybe 15 minutes, and overall it was a quite nice movie, better than I had originally expected.

But here's where it gets nasty.

Tonight, I was gonna watch the last of them. I didn't. The moment I clicked play, I got greeted by poorly rendered figures, some water that looked like something from Half-Life 1, and some landscapes with 2D trees sticking out of them. I was about to close VLC by then, but I thought I'd give it a chance. Maybe it'll turn. I was wrong. After another couple of minutes, a bombardment of funny noises, funny voices, vector graphics and one-liners came raining down on my head. I then closed VLC. Way to kill off a merchandise.

I miss the 90's. Entertainment was actually entertaining back then, and family films truly were family films, and not some screaming, jumping, spazzing, farting 150FPS blobs rushing about, that only the kids have the energy to listen to and follow.
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
13/f/taiwan
Member
+940|6141
I loved the land before time. Owned all the movies before they were either donated to charity/ruined.
.Sup
be nice
+2,646|6895|The Twilight Zone
Other kids don't seem to complain.
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MorbiD.ShoT
Stormin' through the party
+322|7038
Too much writing for something so insignificant.

Noone cares that much.
Tehremos
Parcel of ol' Crams
+128|6850|Somersetshire
What about Ren and Stimpy, The Angry Beavers, Pinky and the Brain, CatDog, Cow and Chicken.... PURE EPICNESS!!!!!!
Freezer7Pro
I don't come here a lot anymore.
+1,447|6639|Winland

MorbiD.ShoT wrote:

Too much writing for something so insignificant.

Noone cares that much.
I know, I just have nothing else to do, no friends and no life.
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
DUnlimited
got any popo lolo intersting?
+1,160|6905|cuntshitlake

.Sup wrote:

Other kids don't seem to complain.
To me it seems that kids these days just watch cartoons. They do not understand what happens in them, they don't get a hint of what the whole plot is about.

They just watch.
main battle tank karthus medikopter 117 megamegapowershot gg
max
Vela Incident
+1,652|7009|NYC / Hamburg

I agree. I want the 80's and 90's back
once upon a midnight dreary, while i pron surfed, weak and weary, over many a strange and spurious site of ' hot  xxx galore'. While i clicked my fav'rite bookmark, suddenly there came a warning, and my heart was filled with mourning, mourning for my dear amour, " 'Tis not possible!", i muttered, " give me back my free hardcore!"..... quoth the server, 404.
Eagle
Togs8896 is my evil alter ego
+567|7073|New Hampshire, USA
Scooby doo was good, but....

Every episode was:
-Hey gang, somethings creepy is going on
-O noes a mawnstor!
-break into groups, group A sets a trap
-monster chases group B into trap
-monster is dude in mask who does not lyeik meddling kids

wash, rinse, repeat.





Spoiler (highlight to read):
still a fantastic show though : D
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Freezer7Pro
I don't come here a lot anymore.
+1,447|6639|Winland

DeathUnlimited wrote:

.Sup wrote:

Other kids don't seem to complain.
To me it seems that kids these days just watch cartoons. They do not understand what happens in them, they don't get a hint of what the whole plot is about.

They just watch.
There's a plot?
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
13/f/taiwan
Member
+940|6141

Tehremos wrote:

What about Ren and Stimpy, The Angry Beavers, Pinky and the Brain, CatDog, Cow and Chicken.... PURE EPICNESS!!!!!!
https://worldofcartoon.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/04-rc1221-pinky_brain-777311.jpg

Now that was worth waking up early Saturday mornings.
SamTheMan:D
Banned
+856|6416|England

what shall we do tonight brain?
MorbiD.ShoT
Stormin' through the party
+322|7038

Freezer7Pro wrote:

MorbiD.ShoT wrote:

Too much writing for something so insignificant.

Noone cares that much.
I know, I just have nothing else to do, no friends and no life.
Hm.  Sad.
jord
Member
+2,382|7120|The North, beyond the wall.
Lion King best animated film ever if u no agree hurry up and die
Freezer7Pro
I don't come here a lot anymore.
+1,447|6639|Winland

MorbiD.ShoT wrote:

Freezer7Pro wrote:

MorbiD.ShoT wrote:

Too much writing for something so insignificant.

Noone cares that much.
I know, I just have nothing else to do, no friends and no life.
Hm.  Sad.
Yes

jord wrote:

Lion King best animated film ever if u no agree hurry up and die
nowai Balto > Lion King

Last edited by Freezer7Pro (2008-10-27 13:30:08)

The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
Spidery_Yoda
Member
+399|6712
Kid's shows in general these days are beyond awful.

Just try and compare anything that's on kids TV these days to, say, Thunderbirds (which i occasionally still watch and enjoy immensely).

It's just sad whats happened to kids tv.
firebolt5
Member
+114|6597

Tehremos wrote:

What about Ren and Stimpy, The Angry Beavers, Pinky and the Brain, CatDog, Cow and Chicken.... PURE EPICNESS!!!!!!
CatDog?  I could care less about.  And what's the deal with Invader Zim?  I thought that was crap.
Gooners
Wiki Contributor
+2,700|7074

Scooby Doo was the coolest show ever.
jord
Member
+2,382|7120|The North, beyond the wall.
the fuck is balto..


lion king, bambi ,etc


Clearly a children's animated film can only be good if a main character dies. New film producers turned into pussies, now we have WALLE and all that bullshit.


Kids need to see death. Cry, and then see a happy ending. And no 3d visual crap.
SamTheMan:D
Banned
+856|6416|England

the fox and the hound

fuckin brilliant
Freezer7Pro
I don't come here a lot anymore.
+1,447|6639|Winland

jord wrote:

the fuck is balto..


lion king, bambi ,etc


Clearly a children's animated film can only be good if a main character dies. New film producers turned into pussies, now we have WALLE and all that bullshit.


Kids need to see death. Cry, and then see a happy ending. And no 3d visual crap.
+1

SamTheMan:D wrote:

the fox and the hound

fuckin brilliant
I concur. Loved that one too.
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
Havok
Nymphomaniac Treatment Specialist
+302|7117|Florida, United States

Balto was awesome.  I think they made a sequel too but I never saw it.  I agree, modern cartoons suck ass.
M.O.A.B
'Light 'em up!'
+1,220|6665|Escea

TRANSFORMERS!

one of the best cartoon movies ever tbh, I mean, robots blowing eac other up and turning into cars = epic.
JoshP
Banned
+176|6131|Notts, UK

12/f/taiwan wrote:

Tehremos wrote:

What about Ren and Stimpy, The Angry Beavers, Pinky and the Brain, CatDog, Cow and Chicken.... PURE EPICNESS!!!!!!
http://worldofcartoon.files.wordpress.c … 777311.jpg

Now that was worth waking up early Saturday mornings.
<3'd that,
Roc18
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+655|6233|PROLLLY PROLLLY PROLLLY
Ok first of all dont diss powerfuff girls, that was the shit back in the 1990s

Second of all I agree with you on the rest of the stuff, until about 2004 cartoons were decent, but now we have this shit like (chowder, camp lazlo, The Marvelous Misadventures of Flapjack). I think it's just showing the channel appealing to the next generation of cartoon watchers, when they get to be teenagers they will be like the new stuff sucks too. I might be wrong, the current cartoons might just suck.

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