Minimal settings for seeing objects the furthest?

2008-10-29 08:43:13

#1

Freezer7Pro: I don't come here a lot anymore.; +1,447|6456|Winland

Just a quick question, what should my settings be to spot objects and vehicles the furthest? I currently run all low, with geometry on high and effects on medium. I think geometry was the one to change for the draw scale, but I can't quite remember. It feels like things aren't drawn as far as on the gaming rig, but it could just be placebo, due to the smaller screen.

And yes, the slider is at 100%.

Last edited by Freezer7Pro (2008-10-29 08:44:16)

The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP

2008-10-29 08:47:46

#2

Flaming_Maniac: prince of insufficient light; +2,490|6965|67.222.138.85

Geometry is the biggest thing if I remember correctly. Turning up all the other settings in general with the exception of shadows and textures gets you a little bit more.

2008-10-29 08:48:29

#3

Cyrax-Sektor: Official Battlefield fanboy; +240|6407|San Antonio, Texas

You're right, Geometry is the one for rendering objects. High is the best. Those are about the only video settings that help rendering that I know of. I'd also use Medium Texture with Medium Texture filtering to better identify targets.

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2008-10-29 08:59:22

#4

Freezer7Pro: I don't come here a lot anymore.; +1,447|6456|Winland

Ok, thanks

The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP

2008-10-29 10:36:36

#5

prototype: Member; +52|6570

I run at 1600X1200 at 60hz with everything on highest, draw on 100% and AA @ 4x and I get about 105-110 fps

I see enemies from so far away its crazy

I love my Evga 8800GT 512

2008-10-29 10:40:22

#6

Freezer7Pro: I don't come here a lot anymore.; +1,447|6456|Winland

prototype wrote:
I run at 1600X1200 at 60hz with everything on highest, draw on 100% and AA @ 4x and I get about 105-110 fps

I see enemies from so far away its crazy

I love my Evga 8800GT 512

Higher resolution does not equal seeing further.

And VSync ftw, why do you people insist on screen tearing?

If you're trying to show off your computer, I can inform you that this is just for my laptop, got a Vmodded, overclocked and supercooled 8800GT 512 in my rig. Plus a 1920x1200px screen

The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP

2008-10-29 11:15:09

#7

aimless: Member; +166|6383|Texas

Freezer7Pro wrote:
prototype wrote:
I run at 1600X1200 at 60hz with everything on highest, draw on 100% and AA @ 4x and I get about 105-110 fps

I see enemies from so far away its crazy

I love my Evga 8800GT 512
Higher resolution does not equal seeing further.

And VSync ftw, why do you people insist on screen tearing?

If you're trying to show off your computer, I can inform you that this is just for my laptop, got a Vmodded, overclocked and supercooled 8800GT 512 in my rig. Plus a 1920x1200px screen

Whenever I put vsync on in any of my games it makes my mouse lag.

2008-10-29 11:19:00

#8

Freezer7Pro: I don't come here a lot anymore.; +1,447|6456|Winland

aimless wrote:
Freezer7Pro wrote:
prototype wrote:
I run at 1600X1200 at 60hz with everything on highest, draw on 100% and AA @ 4x and I get about 105-110 fps

I see enemies from so far away its crazy

I love my Evga 8800GT 512
Higher resolution does not equal seeing further.

And VSync ftw, why do you people insist on screen tearing?

If you're trying to show off your computer, I can inform you that this is just for my laptop, got a Vmodded, overclocked and supercooled 8800GT 512 in my rig. Plus a 1920x1200px screen
Whenever I put vsync on in any of my games it makes my mouse lag.

You should look into that tbh. I can't stand playing without VSync anymore.

The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP

2008-10-29 11:20:50

#9

DUnlimited: got any popo lolo intersting?; +1,160|6722|cuntshitlake

Freezer7Pro wrote:
You should look into that tbh. I can't stand playing without VSync anymore.

36fps ftw you heretic.

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2008-10-29 11:34:11

#10

Freezer7Pro: I don't come here a lot anymore.; +1,447|6456|Winland

DeathUnlimited wrote:
Freezer7Pro wrote:
You should look into that tbh. I can't stand playing without VSync anymore.
36fps ftw you heretic.

Maybe for you, inf fag, but we honourable airbourne, wing-equipped soldiers require some more than you, you slugs of the earth, bound to the ground by your limited minds and inferior motor skills! You are trash in my eye!

Spoiler (highlight to read):

The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP

2008-10-29 11:49:20

#11

prototype: Member; +52|6570

what is Vsync and how do I turn it on?

2008-10-29 11:53:50

#12

H3RB4L ABU53: ™; +45|6126|123 | 456 | 789 | Δ

If you set terrain to medium or low, you can see people hiding behind objects easier like snipers in trees, my settings are medium texture, medium terrain, high effects, high geometry, max draw distance, low lighting, no dynamic lights or shadows and 4xAA with multisampling I played around and this was the best way for me to spot enemies easy, a lot of people say they use no AA but you need it on really, it makes the game look a lot better and sometimes I find it hard to see anything with all the jaggies and think a lamp post in the distance is an enemy lol

2008-10-29 11:59:55

#13

H3RB4L ABU53: ™; +45|6126|123 | 456 | 789 | Δ

Vsync is where if you have a refresh rate of 75hz, on any monitor, CRT or LCD, if your framerate goes above the refresh rate (75HZ) then you can get screen tearing which can seem like lag, so if you get 75 or more frames per second it can happen- the more frames over the more likely it will be bad. Vsync can be turned on in nvidia control panel or whatever control panel your gpu has, and what it does is makes the maximum framerate your refresh rate, so if your refresh rate is 60hz, you will never go over 60fps so you will never get tearing, but if you get below 60fps in intense action etc, it will drop to 30fps- it cuts in half each time, but you can use triple buffering to make it better as it divides it so if you get below 60fps on 60hz it might give you 50 to make it smoother if it makes sense- I tried it with vsync and it does make everything buttery smooth all the time as I get 100fps, so a constant 75fps with 75hz and vsync, but with it enabled it gave me REALLY bad mouse lag, and joypad lag so I had to turn it off, it was so bad that I had to click about 4 or 5 times to shoot the sniper rifle, I tried max pre rendered frames in nvidia control panel set to 1 but makes no difference- if you don't get any input lag then turn vsync on, but if you get input lag then leave it off

2008-10-29 12:06:46

#14

Brasso: member; +1,549|6889

H3RB4L ABU53 wrote:
Vsync is where if you have a refresh rate of 75hz, on any monitor, CRT or LCD, if your framerate goes above the refresh rate (75HZ) then you can get screen tearing which can seem like lag, so if you get 75 or more frames per second it can happen- the more frames over the more likely it will be bad. Vsync can be turned on in nvidia control panel or whatever control panel your gpu has, and what it does is makes the maximum framerate your refresh rate, so if your refresh rate is 60hz, you will never go over 60fps so you will never get tearing, but if you get below 60fps in intense action etc, it will drop to 30fps- it cuts in half each time, but you can use triple buffering to make it better as it divides it so if you get below 60fps on 60hz it might give you 50 to make it smoother if it makes sense- I tried it with vsync and it does make everything buttery smooth all the time as I get 100fps, so a constant 75fps with 75hz and vsync, but with it enabled it gave me REALLY bad mouse lag, and joypad lag so I had to turn it off, it was so bad that I had to click about 4 or 5 times to shoot the sniper rifle, I tried max pre rendered frames in nvidia control panel set to 1 but makes no difference- if you don't get any input lag then turn vsync on, but if you get input lag then leave it off

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2008-10-29 12:25:51

#15

H3RB4L ABU53: ™; +45|6126|123 | 456 | 789 | Δ

I haven't tried this yet, but you might be able to get the best of both worlds- I know you can change the framerate cap using usersettings.con file, a lot of people set it to 0 so you have no framerate limit, but I was thinking if you have 75hz and set the framerate cap to 75fps, you shouldn't get any tearing, or mouse lag- I might try it in a bit to see if it works, if it does then vsync is pointless for BF2, but I haven't seen a lot of people talking about it as a replacement for vsync

2008-10-29 13:24:52

#16

Brasso: member; +1,549|6889

H3RB4L ABU53 wrote:
I haven't tried this yet, but you might be able to get the best of both worlds- I know you can change the framerate cap using usersettings.con file, a lot of people set it to 0 so you have no framerate limit, but I was thinking if you have 75hz and set the framerate cap to 75fps, you shouldn't get any tearing, or mouse lag- I might try it in a bit to see if it works, if it does then vsync is pointless for BF2, but I haven't seen a lot of people talking about it as a replacement for vsync

again, .

"people in ny have a general idea of how to drive. one of the pedals goes forward the other one prevents you from dying"

2008-10-29 13:42:19

#17

Freezer7Pro: I don't come here a lot anymore.; +1,447|6456|Winland

H3RB4L ABU53 wrote:
I haven't tried this yet, but you might be able to get the best of both worlds- I know you can change the framerate cap using usersettings.con file, a lot of people set it to 0 so you have no framerate limit, but I was thinking if you have 75hz and set the framerate cap to 75fps, you shouldn't get any tearing, or mouse lag- I might try it in a bit to see if it works, if it does then vsync is pointless for BF2, but I haven't seen a lot of people talking about it as a replacement for vsync

It won't work, in fact, it'll create some really bad tearing, as it's just almost in sync. You basically get two lines running across the screen at almost all times.

The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP

2008-10-29 13:47:45

#18

elite.mafia: Banned; +122|6712|USA

Freezer7Pro wrote:
DeathUnlimited wrote:
Freezer7Pro wrote:
You should look into that tbh. I can't stand playing without VSync anymore.
36fps ftw you heretic.
Maybe for you, inf fag, but we honourable airbourne, wing-equipped soldiers require some more than you, you slugs of the earth, bound to the ground by your limited minds and inferior motor skills! You are trash in my eye!

Spoiler (highlight to read):

ftw

2008-10-29 14:53:57

#19

H3RB4L ABU53: ™; +45|6126|123 | 456 | 789 | Δ

Yes, I tried the framerate cap and it does cause more tearing, I guess vsync is the only way to go if you want smoothest game as it is actively in sync with refresh rate, worth a try anyway lol tearing it is then:)

2008-10-29 15:51:16

#20

Mr.Dooomed: Find your center.; +752|6586

Ya, I tried playing on my laptop, and the mouse lags like shit. I guess enabling vsync should fix it.

Ah, vsnyc was set to 'Let the 3d application decide' knowing bf2, I doubt it sets that, or does it? I'll load into a game and see how it is later...

Nature is a powerful force. Those who seek to subdue nature, never do so permanently.

2008-10-29 16:02:20

#21

|TG|VividSynergy: Banned; +22|5956|Bolingbrook, Illinois

Use a program that forces Triple Buffering, such as RivaTuner's D3D Overrider. This lifts the framerate cap while having vertical sync on.

Last edited by |TG|VividSynergy (2008-10-29 16:02:48)

2008-10-29 16:54:59

#22

Mr.Dooomed: Find your center.; +752|6586

Well, I set vsync to 'force on' and Triple buffering to 'on' as well...I had various other settings on like antialiasing, texture filtering, ansiotropic filtering...

Went to go play the game, it sure LOOKED nice, but man, total lag. Next time, i turned off all those other goodies, and only kept vsync and triple buffering. Lowered the settings in game to bare minimum, and tried playing. I noticed a little difference, but still kinda laggy. I guess my laptop isn't decent enough to run BF2 even...

I got a 8400M G but wait a second...

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Hey NVIDIA...how about a big FUCK YOU?

Nature is a powerful force. Those who seek to subdue nature, never do so permanently.

2008-10-29 17:09:36

#23

steelie34: pub hero!; +603|6640|the land of bourbon

Im_Dooomed wrote:
Hey NVIDIA...how about a big FUCK YOU?

while normally i agree with hating on the big companies, i think in this case bf2 is to blame. the card can handle what you threw at it, but the code for the game is not properly utilizing the hardware. blame dice, not nvidia. same deal with crysis, the code wasnt 'optimized' to use the hardware, hence all the problems with low frame rates on high settings. but freezer can tell you more about all that.

Last edited by steelie34 (2008-10-29 17:10:09)

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2008-10-30 13:51:30

#24

Mr.Dooomed: Find your center.; +752|6586

steelie34 wrote:
hence all the problems with low frame rates on high settings.

Well, even on the lowest settings possible, for my card, and in game settings, it still was laggy. Talk about total shit. A four (five?) year old game that cant run smooth on a laptop I bought 1 1/2 years ago with 2 gigs ram and an 8400M G nvidia card?

I guess I can call Sager tech support maybe they can recommend different driver sets for my card to run older games or maybe the tweak guide dudes have older NVIDIA driver sets I can use?

Freezer halp! whuer r u!?

Nature is a powerful force. Those who seek to subdue nature, never do so permanently.

2008-10-30 14:06:14

#25

DUnlimited: got any popo lolo intersting?; +1,160|6722|cuntshitlake

8400 Sucks. It won't beat a midrange 6-series card. That description they give is pure marketing.

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prototype wrote:

aimless wrote:

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prototype wrote:

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DeathUnlimited wrote:

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H3RB4L ABU53 wrote:

H3RB4L ABU53 wrote:

Freezer7Pro wrote:

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Freezer7Pro wrote:

NVIDIA WEBSITE wrote:

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