BF2S Forums Looking for a new shiny MP3 player

Guys, thanks for trying to talk me into an apple, but I´m afraid your wasting your letters there.

I use Winamp to manage my music, which is highly effective and very modular due to a lot of nice applets and whatnot coming from the internetz. Something apple is not allowing. I don´t like the way apple is forcing you into their product range in order to be able to use one of those things.
Plus, you actually pay more for apple products than for comparable products, so recommending me one while saying I´m dumb to pay more money for a fancy look is kinda hypocritical, Nismo .

Maybe you guys don´t go that much for looks, but for me they are important. Especially in those things surrounding me everyday. That´s why I don´t live in a cardboard box. That´s why people buy a Porsche instead of a Hyundai. If you´re happy with a boringly ugly piece of equipment, that´s fine, but don´t judge me because I don´t want it, even if it would make me fuckin pancakes every morning.

Jenspm wrote:

Samsung YP-P2 or an iRiver Clix (iRiver supports .flac )

The Clix looks really nice. Has no touch screen but a pretty well made way to navigate instead. That might be the one (even with me being a Samsung Lover), gotta read up a bit more about it. What is .flac btw?

Last edited by Sisco10 (2008-10-30 09:41:17)

Jenspm wrote:

Sisco10 wrote:

Jenspm wrote:

Samsung YP-P2 or an iRiver Clix (iRiver supports .flac )

The Clix looks really nice. Has no touch screen but a pretty well made way to navigate instead. That might be the one (even with me being a Samsung Lover), gotta read up a bit more about it. What is .flac btw?

.flac is an awesome lossless audiot codec. Great quality, basically (a lot better than mp3)

Something similar to .ogg?
I looked it up on wikipedia. Looks really nice. Thus far, the p2 and the clix are head-to-head.
plus, the www.iriver.com page is

Jenspm wrote:

Sisco10 wrote:

Jenspm wrote:

.flac is an awesome lossless audiot codec. Great quality, basically (a lot better than mp3)

Something similar to .ogg?

yes, very similar to .ogg.

hm, I can´t find any info on support for that on their site nor on the internetz.
But their "Spinn" caught my attention. Might be a little expensive though, compared to the clix and samsung...

BTW, winamp works with ipods. You don't need itunes. And then there's always rockbox ...

You can get .flac audio on warezBB

White-Fusion wrote:

There is millions of applications instead of Itunes. I have a 80 gig new Ipod black and I have not had a single problem with it, I use Winamp to put songs on it etc. It looks sexy, and is affordable.

If your willing, I would like to know how ipods work with winamp. Do you have to jump through hoops first to be able to use it with winamp or is it more of an easy as pie thing? winamp sports this autodetect feature once you plug in a device, does it work with ipods?

Sisco10 wrote:

Maybe you guys don´t go that much for looks, but for me they are important. That´s why people buy a Porsche instead of a Hyundai.

no, people buy porsches because they perform better

ceslayer23 wrote:

Sisco10 wrote:

Maybe you guys don´t go that much for looks, but for me they are important. That´s why people buy a Porsche instead of a Hyundai.

no, people buy porsches because they perform better

We were talking about functionality and a Hyunday performs way better in everyday functionality than a Porsche.

Defiance wrote:

Sisco10 wrote:

Maybe you guys don´t go that much for looks, but for me they are important. Especially in those things surrounding me everyday. That´s why I don´t live in a cardboard box. That´s why people buy a Porsche instead of a Hyundai. If you´re happy with a boringly ugly piece of equipment, that´s fine, but don´t judge me because I don´t want it, even if it would make me fuckin pancakes every morning.

Your car metaphor would only work if a Hyundai performed better then a Porsche.

Function > Form. I can give you something that looks amazing, so you can hide in your pocket, but it'll just be a molded piece of plastic. What you're buying is an MP3 player. If you were buying looks, you'd walk around for something that looked cool and buy it. No, you're specifically asking for a shiny new MP3 player. I notice the shiny, and I agree that form comes in to play but only after function is comparable.

Give me a logical reason to buy for aesthetics, just one.

You guys drive me crazy. Seriously. As I stated somewhere here before, functionality does play a role. But not the first. If the functions and whatnot are good (at least for me cause I´m not an über-nerd when it comes to toys like this), like they are in the Yp-p2, looks are the most important point for me. It seems you think I just want a shiny thing that barely plays music, which is not what I asked for. I´m just willing to dispense with some functions (like Wi-fi) for better looks.
YOu´re approaching it from the wrong angle, because aesthetics should never be considered from a "logical" point of view. It´s the emotion that comes with it. I want technology that triggers positive emotion (like joy) when I look at it, use it, show it to others. That´s why I bought the U700 although I´m barely using most of it´s functions. I love it´s design. they way it feels when using it.

If you get your satisfaction outta reading a tech sheet, fine, but don´t ask me to justify myself just because my focus lies on something else.


All I wanted to know was if there are some good Mp3 players with great looks out there. I never asked for a discussion whether functionality>aesthetics or not. And so far only few here got that point (like jenspm), and I´m tired of this discussion.

Last edited by Sisco10 (2008-10-31 04:30:32)

Sisco10 wrote:

ceslayer23 wrote:

Sisco10 wrote:

Maybe you guys don´t go that much for looks, but for me they are important. That´s why people buy a Porsche instead of a Hyundai.

no, people buy porsches because they perform better

We were talking about functionality and a Hyunday performs way better in everyday functionality than a Porsche.

Defiance wrote:

Sisco10 wrote:

Maybe you guys don´t go that much for looks, but for me they are important. Especially in those things surrounding me everyday. That´s why I don´t live in a cardboard box. That´s why people buy a Porsche instead of a Hyundai. If you´re happy with a boringly ugly piece of equipment, that´s fine, but don´t judge me because I don´t want it, even if it would make me fuckin pancakes every morning.

Your car metaphor would only work if a Hyundai performed better then a Porsche.

Function > Form. I can give you something that looks amazing, so you can hide in your pocket, but it'll just be a molded piece of plastic. What you're buying is an MP3 player. If you were buying looks, you'd walk around for something that looked cool and buy it. No, you're specifically asking for a shiny new MP3 player. I notice the shiny, and I agree that form comes in to play but only after function is comparable.

Give me a logical reason to buy for aesthetics, just one.

You guys drive me crazy. Seriously. As I stated somewhere here before, functionality does play a role. But not the first. If the functions and whatnot are good (at least for me cause I´m not an über-nerd when it comes to toys like this), like they are in the Yp-p2, looks are the most important point for me. It seems you think I just want a shiny thing that barely plays music, which is not what I asked for. I´m just willing to dispense with some functions (like Wi-fi) for better looks.
YOu´re approaching it from the wrong angle, because aesthetics should never be considered from a "logical" point of view. It´s the emotion that comes with it. I want technology that triggers positive emotion (like joy) when I look at it, use it, show it to others. That´s why I bought the U700 although I´m barely using most of it´s functions. I love it´s design. they way it feels when using it.

If you get your satisfaction outta reading a tech sheet, fine, but don´t ask me to justify myself just because my focus lies on something else.


All I wanted to know was if there are some good Mp3 players with great looks out there. I never asked for a discussion whether functionality>aesthetics or not. And so far only few here got that point (like jenspm), and I´m tired of this discussion.

How does a Sansa e270 look straight down bad? It may not have a touchscreen, but it has some of the best functionality and sound quality on the market. You can play Doom at a decent FPS, and someone even got HL1 running on one. it's not Tech sheets we're talking about here. We're talking about noticable functionality. A Nissan Sunny with a V8 will run faster than a Jaguar with a lawnmower engine.

And yes, I do enjoy arguing about stuff like this.

Last edited by Freezer7Pro (2008-10-31 04:42:49)

.Sup wrote:

L@L who would want to play Doom and HF1 on a MP3 player

http://takegame.com/shooter/pictures/doom1.jpg

http://www.bluesnews.com/guide/images/half1.jpg

Just examples.

.Sup wrote:

Freezer7Pro wrote:

.Sup wrote:

L@L who would want to play Doom and HF1 on a MP3 player

http://takegame.com/shooter/pictures/doom1.jpg

http://www.bluesnews.com/guide/images/half1.jpg

Just examples.

But does he say he wants to play games on his player?

Still just examples. Of functionality.

.Sup wrote:

Freezer7Pro wrote:

.Sup wrote:

But does he say he wants to play games on his player?

Still just examples. Of functionality.

Thats good but we should really move on. This is what he wants:

1st - It shall not be an apple!!!!
2nd - I must have a touchscreen and as few buttons as possible. Cause buttons are so yesterday...

Glad you caught it sup. Thanks. I just ordered the Samsung. Nice and shiny.

Mad karmaz round to all the inputters!!