Shader 3 question

2008-11-03 08:30:01

#1

Varegg: Support fanatic :-); +2,206|7076|Nårvei

How do i find out what shader model my card is/have ?

Obviously most new games these days requires Shader model 3 ...

My current GPU is Sapphire Radeon X800XL 512mb ...

Do i have it ? ... and if i don't, can i have it ?

Been looking at the manufactor site but can't seem to find the info

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2008-11-03 08:32:30

#2

Agent_Dung_Bomb: Member; +302|7002|Salt Lake City

It is not shader model 3.0. As I recall it has 2.0B as the shader model.

2008-11-03 08:34:47

#3

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Agent_Dung_Bomb wrote:
It is not shader model 3.0. As I recall it has 2.0B as the shader model.

And it can't be upgraded to 3.0 ?

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2008-11-03 08:36:58

#4

Agent_Dung_Bomb: Member; +302|7002|Salt Lake City

No, it's part of the architecture, and not something that can be upgraded. You will need to replace the card to get shader model 3.0 support.

2008-11-03 08:49:01

#5

GC_PaNzerFIN: Work and study @ Technical Uni; +528|6681|Finland

Actually it is SM 2.0c...

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2008-11-03 09:01:33

#6

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Agent_Dung_Bomb wrote:
No, it's part of the architecture, and not something that can be upgraded. You will need to replace the card to get shader model 3.0 support.

Damn ... i suspected just that

Tnx for the help though

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2008-11-03 09:22:39

#7

Agent_Dung_Bomb: Member; +302|7002|Salt Lake City

Happy to help.

2008-11-03 09:26:07

#8

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Is this a good replacement ? ... it's on sale at my "local webshop" - about $300

Sapphire Radeon HD 4850 1GB GDDR3

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2008-11-03 09:28:42

#9

DUnlimited: got any popo lolo intersting?; +1,160|6730|cuntshitlake

Varegg wrote:
Is this a good replacement ? ... it's on sale at my "local webshop" - about $300

Sapphire Radeon HD 4850 1GB GDDR3

That price is pretty horrible. In the US 4850 512MB's go for ~$160 and 1GB models ~$200. What store you using?

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2008-11-03 09:29:25

#10

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DeathUnlimited wrote:
Varegg wrote:
Is this a good replacement ? ... it's on sale at my "local webshop" - about $300

Sapphire Radeon HD 4850 1GB GDDR3
That price is pretty horrible. In the US 4850 512MB's go for ~$160 and 1GB models ~$200. What store you using?

www.komplett.no

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2008-11-03 09:34:39

#11

DUnlimited: got any popo lolo intersting?; +1,160|6730|cuntshitlake

Varegg wrote:
DeathUnlimited wrote:
Varegg wrote:
Is this a good replacement ? ... it's on sale at my "local webshop" - about $300

Sapphire Radeon HD 4850 1GB GDDR3
That price is pretty horrible. In the US 4850 512MB's go for ~$160 and 1GB models ~$200. What store you using?
www.komplett.no

What are the other parts of the computer and how big res is the monitor/monitors? Anyway I think you'll be fine with 512MB 4850 or for that $300, a 512MB 4870.

Last edited by DeathUnlimited (2008-11-03 09:36:43)

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2008-11-03 09:45:56

#12

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2008-11-03 09:47:25

#13

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Yeah .... i notice the 4850 1Gb was $200 on newegg, but customs and freight would make it more exspensive anyway ...

So you would rather buy a 4870 512mb than a 4850 1Gb ?

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2008-11-03 09:59:59

#14

Agent_Dung_Bomb: Member; +302|7002|Salt Lake City

I don't honestly think you are going to benefit from using the 1GB model based on the resolution of the monitors you have now. I have the 512MB 4850 and a 24" LCD, and 512MB of RAM has been enough to play at that resolution for any games where the card is fast enough to do so.

2008-11-03 10:02:47

#15

Freezer7Pro: I don't come here a lot anymore.; +1,447|6464|Winland

Varegg wrote:
Yeah .... i notice the 4850 1Gb was $200 on newegg, but customs and freight would make it more exspensive anyway ...

So you would rather buy a 4870 512mb than a 4850 1Gb ?

A matter of usage; Plan to go hi-res and mega-AA (1920x1200, 8XAA), the 4850 1GB, med-res and med-AA (1680x1050, 6XAA), the 4870. As long as there's enough RAM, the 4870 will rape the 4850.

The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP

2008-11-03 10:04:12

#16

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4870 it is then ... tnx guys

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2008-11-03 10:10:18

#17

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Varegg wrote:
4870 it is then ... tnx guys

why the hell u getting shity ATI

stay with NVIDIA and get a 9800GX2

they just rock

other night i was getting over 250fps on cod4

The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP

2008-11-03 10:16:44

#18

Agent_Dung_Bomb: Member; +302|7002|Salt Lake City

Freezer7Pro wrote:
Varegg wrote:
4870 it is then ... tnx guys
why the hell u getting shity ATI

stay with NVIDIA and get a 9800GX2

they just rock

other night i was getting over 250fps on cod4

LOL...I remember that thread. Who was it that said that?

2008-11-03 10:18:57

#19

Varegg: Support fanatic :-); +2,206|7076|Nårvei

Freezer7Pro wrote:
Varegg wrote:
4870 it is then ... tnx guys
why the hell u getting shity ATI

stay with NVIDIA and get a 9800GX2

they just rock

other night i was getting over 250fps on cod4

Saw that already but ATI>Nvidia tbh

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2008-11-03 10:43:39

#20

Freezer7Pro: I don't come here a lot anymore.; +1,447|6464|Winland

Agent_Dung_Bomb wrote:
Freezer7Pro wrote:
Varegg wrote:
4870 it is then ... tnx guys
why the hell u getting shity ATI

stay with NVIDIA and get a 9800GX2

they just rock

other night i was getting over 250fps on cod4
LOL...I remember that thread. Who was it that said that?

Richard2000

The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP

2008-11-03 11:31:49

#21

DUnlimited: got any popo lolo intersting?; +1,160|6730|cuntshitlake

Only thing is that your rig will probably not take use of all the power of the 4870. But it is a futureproof card if you plan to upgrade some time.

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2008-11-03 11:54:17

#22

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DeathUnlimited wrote:
Only thing is that your rig will probably not take use of all the power of the 4870. But it is a futureproof card if you plan to upgrade some time.

I plan to upgrade with CPU and mobo sometime next year, have had my current setup for about 3 years ... was built around bf2 August 2005 ...

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2008-11-03 11:57:07

#23

Agent_Dung_Bomb: Member; +302|7002|Salt Lake City

Freezer7Pro wrote:
Agent_Dung_Bomb wrote:
Freezer7Pro wrote:

why the hell u getting shity ATI

stay with NVIDIA and get a 9800GX2

they just rock

other night i was getting over 250fps on cod4
LOL...I remember that thread. Who was it that said that?
Richard2000

Ahhh yes.

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