Good pc for 600GB pounds?

2008-11-07 12:02:06

#1

a_reborn_vetaran: Member; +8|6239|Belgium

Hi, I was wondering what a could Pc would be for 600 Great Brittain Pounds.

My mate would like it to be good for gaming games like CoD4, BF2 etc.

I was thinking about:

ASUS P5Q Deluxe LGA 775 Intel P45 Intel Motherboard - Retail
120.80 inc VAT

Intel Core 2 Duo E8200 LGA775 'Wolfdale' 2.66GHz (1333FSB) - Retail
£117.49 inc VAT

OCZ 2GB (2x1GB) PC2-6400C4 Dual Channel Platinum Revision 2 XTC Series DDR2 (OCZ2P800R22GK)
£25.84 inc VAT

HIS ATI Radeon HD 4850 512MB GDDR3 TV-Out/Dual DVI/HDMI (PCI-Express) - Retail
£123.36 inc VAT

Samsung SpinPoint F1 250GB SATA-II 16MB Cache - OEM (HD252HJ)
£34.06 inc VAT

Corsair VX 450W ATX PSU (CMPSU-450VXUK)
£49.34 inc VAT

Antec Nine Hundred Ultimate Gaming Case
£70.49 inc VAT

Operating System
Genuine Windows XP™ Professional + SP3, CD & Licence
(£95)

Monitor
19 Inch Wide TFT Silver/Black 1440 x 900 5MS, D-Sub, DVI, Audio
(£95)

Total : 741.38£

Last edited by a_reborn_vetaran (2008-11-07 12:35:18)

2008-11-07 12:04:03

#2

Freezer7Pro: I don't come here a lot anymore.; +1,447|6463|Winland

Your link is broken.

The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP

2008-11-07 12:06:40

#3

CrazeD: Member; +368|6939|Maine

Can't you just look at one of the other 50 "build me a XXX dollar PC" below this one?

EDIT: Specs look good, however I'd get 4GB RAM + Vista.

Also, what brand/model is that PSU?

EDIT2: Also, a C2D E7200 performs nearly the same as the E8400, still overclocks like a raped ape, but is a bit cheaper.

Last edited by CrazeD (2008-11-07 12:08:34)

2008-11-07 12:07:43

#4

a_reborn_vetaran: Member; +8|6239|Belgium

I posted the specs now.

2008-11-07 12:08:22

#5

robcr9: Member; +111|6247

CrazeD wrote:
Can't you just look at one of the other 50 "build me a XXX dollar PC" below this one?

Can't you just post something that would help, otherwise, please don't bother.

2008-11-07 12:08:58

#6

CrazeD: Member; +368|6939|Maine

robcr9 wrote:
CrazeD wrote:
Can't you just look at one of the other 50 "build me a XXX dollar PC" below this one?
Can't you just post something that would help, otherwise, please don't bother.

See edit. Better?

2008-11-07 12:09:28

#7

a_reborn_vetaran: Member; +8|6239|Belgium

CrazeD wrote:
Can't you just look at one of the other 50 "build me a XXX dollar PC" below this one?

EDIT: Specs look good, however I'd get 4GB RAM + Vista.

Also, what brand/model is that PSU?

Hi, thx for replying that fast already.

Anyway, 2GB with + XP is better for gaming..

Edit: Rob is the guy i'm doing this for , he's a bit excited :p

Last edited by a_reborn_vetaran (2008-11-07 12:10:22)

2008-11-07 12:09:32

#8

Freezer7Pro: I don't come here a lot anymore.; +1,447|6463|Winland

robcr9 wrote:
CrazeD wrote:
Can't you just look at one of the other 50 "build me a XXX dollar PC" below this one?
Can't you just post something that would help, otherwise, please don't bother.

He's right. There are tons of those.

The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP

2008-11-07 12:11:12

#9

robcr9: Member; +111|6247

Freezer7Pro wrote:
robcr9 wrote:
CrazeD wrote:
Can't you just look at one of the other 50 "build me a XXX dollar PC" below this one?
Can't you just post something that would help, otherwise, please don't bother.
He's right. There are tons of those.

A little help wouldnt be harmful though, would it?

2008-11-07 12:11:39

#10

CrazeD: Member; +368|6939|Maine

a_reborn_vetaran wrote:
CrazeD wrote:
Can't you just look at one of the other 50 "build me a XXX dollar PC" below this one?

EDIT: Specs look good, however I'd get 4GB RAM + Vista.

Also, what brand/model is that PSU?
Hi, thx for replying that fast already.

Anyway, 2GB with + XP is better for gaming..

Edit: Rob is the guy i'm doing this for , he's a bit excited :p

XP is better for gaming, but on such a system the difference would be very little.

Get 4GB of RAM anyway, it will still benefit for some things on XP and should you ever decide to upgrade to Vista, you have the memory head room.

EDIT:

robcr9 wrote:
Freezer7Pro wrote:
robcr9 wrote:

Can't you just post something that would help, otherwise, please don't bother.
He's right. There are tons of those.
A little help wouldnt be harmful though, would it?

He'd get plenty of help in the other 50 threads. By the way, I don't see you helping him?

Last edited by CrazeD (2008-11-07 12:12:42)

2008-11-07 12:13:25

#11

Freezer7Pro: I don't come here a lot anymore.; +1,447|6463|Winland

robcr9 wrote:
Freezer7Pro wrote:
robcr9 wrote:

Can't you just post something that would help, otherwise, please don't bother.
He's right. There are tons of those.
A little help wouldnt be harmful though, would it?

Neither would using that 18pt, bolded Search button up top.

The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP

2008-11-07 12:13:55

#12

robcr9: Member; +111|6247

Maybe, just maybe, because it is for me.....ever think of that? Anyway thanks for the constructive parts of your post.

2008-11-07 12:17:33

#13

a_reborn_vetaran: Member; +8|6239|Belgium

Stop hi-jacking the thread please.

Xp ftw anyhow. + XP is less expensive than Vista.

And I asked to take away a few things and replace them by cheaper stuff.

2008-11-07 12:19:39

#14

SpIk3y: Minister of Silly Walks; +67|6405|New Jersey

Damn you Europeans really get ripped off on electronics. That same PC would cost well under $1000/500 pounds in the US.

2008-11-07 12:20:28

#15

CrazeD: Member; +368|6939|Maine

a_reborn_vetaran wrote:
Xp ftw anyhow. + XP is less expensive than Vista.

And I asked to take away a few things and replace them by cheaper stuff.

XP

Vista

XP = cheaper.

EDIT: I missed that second part of that quote, and of the OP.

Well then, like I said the E7200 is a bit cheaper than the E8400 but still fast enough. If you want even cheaper, the E5200 will work fine as well.

Drop RAM to DDR2 800, or get different model (dominator is overpriced tbh).

Get P5Q instead of P5Q deluxe, or get Gigabyte EP45 DS3R (I think it's a little cheaper, not 100% sure though).

Also, (again) what are the specs of that PSU?

Last edited by CrazeD (2008-11-07 12:23:34)

2008-11-07 12:22:39

#16

GC_PaNzerFIN: Work and study @ Technical Uni; +528|6681|Finland

o guys new radeons are actually FASTER in Vista than XP...

EDIT: especially when SP1 is installed. which I highly recommend for radeon users. It gave me around 30% boost in AA+AF performance when I had tri-fire.

Last edited by GC_PaNzerFIN (2008-11-07 12:24:52)

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2008-11-07 12:24:02

#17

CrazeD: Member; +368|6939|Maine

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
o guys new radeons are actually FASTER in Vista than XP...

Proofs?

EDIT:

SpIk3y wrote:
Damn you Europeans really get ripped off on electronics. That same PC would cost well under $1000/500 pounds in the US.

$1000 is 634 pounds.

Last edited by CrazeD (2008-11-07 12:25:31)

2008-11-07 12:25:46

#18

Bell: Frosties > Cornflakes; +362|6815|UK

£95 for XP? The hell with that. Get yourself vista and more RAM. Better PSU could be useful.

I take it this is a custom build? (as in not building it himself).

2008-11-07 12:26:47

#19

GC_PaNzerFIN: Work and study @ Technical Uni; +528|6681|Finland

CrazeD wrote:
GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
o guys new radeons are actually FASTER in Vista than XP...
Proofs?

EDIT:
SpIk3y wrote:
Damn you Europeans really get ripped off on electronics. That same PC would cost well under $1000/500 pounds in the US.
$1000 is 634 pounds.

"...we see a +5.8% boost in average FPS going from XP to Vista. If we add the two game titles and let them enjoy CF-scaling the number jumps up to +27.7%!"

http://www.madshrimps.be/?action=getart … rticID=869

edit: and didn't I make a thread about this a few months ago? I noticed it myself....

so the one that is recommending XP over Vista for Radeon pc is shooting you on the foot...

Last edited by GC_PaNzerFIN (2008-11-07 12:32:19)

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2008-11-07 12:31:06

#20

a_reborn_vetaran: Member; +8|6239|Belgium

Ok guys, I've edited a new , cheaper pc. This is in the persons' budget so... If its any good, tell me

2008-11-07 12:31:45

#21

CrazeD: Member; +368|6939|Maine

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
CrazeD wrote:
GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
o guys new radeons are actually FASTER in Vista than XP...
Proofs?

EDIT:
SpIk3y wrote:
Damn you Europeans really get ripped off on electronics. That same PC would cost well under $1000/500 pounds in the US.
$1000 is 634 pounds.
"...we see a +5.8% boost in average FPS going from XP to Vista. If we add the two game titles and let them enjoy CF-scaling the number jumps up to +27.7%!"

http://www.madshrimps.be/?action=getart … rticID=869

edit: and didn't I make a thread about this a few months ago? I noticed it myself....

So it mostly effects multi-GPU setups then?

EDIT:

a_reborn_vetaran wrote:
Ok guys, I've edited a new , cheaper pc. This is in the persons' budget so... If its any good, tell me

Get an Antec 300. It has the same cooling potential as the Antec 900, but it's like half the price. I've recently worked with one, and it's very very nice considering how cheap it is.

Last edited by CrazeD (2008-11-07 12:33:14)

2008-11-07 12:33:42

#22

GC_PaNzerFIN: Work and study @ Technical Uni; +528|6681|Finland

CrazeD wrote:
GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
CrazeD wrote:

Proofs?

EDIT:
$1000 is 634 pounds.
"...we see a +5.8% boost in average FPS going from XP to Vista. If we add the two game titles and let them enjoy CF-scaling the number jumps up to +27.7%!"

http://www.madshrimps.be/?action=getart … rticID=869

edit: and didn't I make a thread about this a few months ago? I noticed it myself....
So it mostly effects multi-GPU setups then?

and AA+AF performance. even normal use is around 5% faster in Vista so talk about Vista being slower than XP is total bullshit... I wouldn't even consider XP anymore for Radeon rigs after my personal experience.

Last edited by GC_PaNzerFIN (2008-11-07 12:34:30)

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2008-11-07 14:43:36

#23

CrazeD: Member; +368|6939|Maine

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
CrazeD wrote:
GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:

"...we see a +5.8% boost in average FPS going from XP to Vista. If we add the two game titles and let them enjoy CF-scaling the number jumps up to +27.7%!"

http://www.madshrimps.be/?action=getart … rticID=869

edit: and didn't I make a thread about this a few months ago? I noticed it myself....
So it mostly effects multi-GPU setups then?
and AA+AF performance. even normal use is around 5% faster in Vista so talk about Vista being slower than XP is total bullshit... I wouldn't even consider XP anymore for Radeon rigs after my personal experience.

Only with a good amount of RAM though. I had 2GB of RAM up until a month ago. I was running Vista 32 bit, and games would lag like hell. Oblivion, for example...if I turned quickly or looked at an un-rendered area it would drop to like 3 FPS for a second and then go back to normal. Once I got 4GB of RAM, that was gone completely - silky smooth always. So, even on 32 bit Vista, it eats RAM.

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