It hurts but it's worth it.Parker wrote:
as a paper weight.
most high end optics will cost more than the firearm they are being mounted on.
Mk.19 tbh.
Get a .22.Currently I just want to go out shooting with the gf's father and some friends, ya know tin cans and such. Later on, however, when I actually have some time and money on my hands, I would like to get into hunting.
Then get a hunting rifle - figure out what you want to hunt first.
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Marlin Firearms - always a good choice, probie or expert. Google it.
On the topic of buying firearms, can (and if so, how do you) one own something like an M4 or an M249?
Class III firearms license.Hurricane2k9 wrote:
On the topic of buying firearms, can (and if so, how do you) one own something like an M4 or an M249?
elaborateParker wrote:
Class III firearms license.Hurricane2k9 wrote:
On the topic of buying firearms, can (and if so, how do you) one own something like an M4 or an M249?
federal firearms license ... where they get to make unsheduled vists and check your shit but you can have autosHurricane2k9 wrote:
elaborateParker wrote:
Class III firearms license.Hurricane2k9 wrote:
On the topic of buying firearms, can (and if so, how do you) one own something like an M4 or an M249?
you pay an assload of money for the federal government to do a background check and decide if you are qualified and responsible enough to own those types of firearms.Hurricane2k9 wrote:
elaborateParker wrote:
Class III firearms license.Hurricane2k9 wrote:
On the topic of buying firearms, can (and if so, how do you) one own something like an M4 or an M249?
but that is a rich mans sport.
you will spend upwards of $30,000 just to own a full auto version of something you can buy as a civilian in semi for $1100.
not including the ammo.....you need A LOT of money to own and fire full autos.
I like my Burris Fullfield 2 Tactical. 4.5x14.. abit on the holy fuck its pricey side but worth it.Reciprocity wrote:
I like my US Optics.SEREMAKER wrote:
good 1 .. I like my ACOG
Illegal Firearms: They look better and better each day.Parker wrote:
you pay an assload of money for the federal government to do a background check and decide if you are qualified and responsible enough to own those types of firearms.Hurricane2k9 wrote:
elaborateParker wrote:
Class III firearms license.
but that is a rich mans sport.
you will spend upwards of $30,000 just to own a full auto version of something you can buy as a civilian in semi for $1100.
not including the ammo.....you need A LOT of money to own and fire full autos.
Nope, no such thing.Parker wrote:
Class III firearms license.Hurricane2k9 wrote:
On the topic of buying firearms, can (and if so, how do you) one own something like an M4 or an M249?
To deal in Title 2 firearms, you need a certain type of FFL.
To own one (if your state does not outlaw it), you need to pay a 200 dollar fee, undergo additional BATFE background checks, have your local chief law enforcement officail sign off, and go through a NFA licensed FFL. If everything checks out/is signed you get a stamp and can purchase the firearm.
Google "NFA machine gun laws" for a complete description.
For hunting deer, you would probably want a .30-30, a .308win/7.62x51, .270win, .30-06 caliber rifle, although 7.62x39 could work. A basic bolt action rifle is always good. Browning x-bolt, Saiga, Remington 700, etc. In semi-auto, just about any 7.62 rifle would work. Lever guns are popular in .30-30. Also, a 12ga. shotgun with deer slugs works nicely at closer ranges.
Falcon Optics on one, and EO Tech for the other.Reciprocity wrote:
I like my US Optics.SEREMAKER wrote:
good 1 .. I like my ACOG
Not (quite) true. If you are looking to DEAL in restricted firearms, then yes. If you only want to own one, and not sell it, you only need to geta tax stamp for your firearm, which is (I think) $200 plus the approval of your local sherriff. This works for suppressors, fully automatic firearms, and shotguns with barrells under 18" and well as rifles with barrells under 16".Parker wrote:
you pay an assload of money for the federal government to do a background check and decide if you are qualified and responsible enough to own those types of firearms.Hurricane2k9 wrote:
elaborateParker wrote:
Class III firearms license.
but that is a rich mans sport.
you will spend upwards of $30,000 just to own a full auto version of something you can buy as a civilian in semi for $1100.
not including the ammo.....you need A LOT of money to own and fire full autos.
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lol really?RAIMIUS wrote:
Nope, no such thing.Parker wrote:
Class III firearms license.Hurricane2k9 wrote:
On the topic of buying firearms, can (and if so, how do you) one own something like an M4 or an M249?
funny, cause after my FFL got approved, that was the first thing i looked at.....appearently the federal government is under the impression that type of license exists....
a Class III dealers license you mean?RAIMIUS wrote:
To deal in Title 2 firearms, you need a certain type of FFL.
now this is correct....you will still be spending an assload of money either way.imortal wrote:
Not (quite) true. If you are looking to DEAL in restricted firearms, then yes. If you only want to own one, and not sell it, you only need to geta tax stamp for your firearm, which is (I think) $200 plus the approval of your local sherriff. This works for suppressors, fully automatic firearms, and shotguns with barrells under 18" and well as rifles with barrells under 16".
Some ranges will let you demo. I suggest that. Never buy a gun until you've shot it first. .. please, trust me.
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I'm going to the Chantilly Va gunshow on Nov 21/22/23
http://thenationsgunshow.com/
looking for an ar15... doing research now and will ask a ton of questions at the show...
http://thenationsgunshow.com/
looking for an ar15... doing research now and will ask a ton of questions at the show...
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get there early and bring cash if you want an AR....or PM SEREMAKER.
I'm just hoping the prices aren't crazy... less than a 1000 hopefully?
i saw where you can make your own... buy an upper and a lower... still researching that
i saw where you can make your own... buy an upper and a lower... still researching that
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you should be able to pick up a very basic AR for $600-700 new. DPMS, Olympic arms and RRA all make decent rifles. If your going to the gun show to get a good deal, don't hold your breath, those days are long gone. You can still find good prices on some used items and from private parties, but most dealers aren't giving good deals on new or in demand items.[TUF]Catbox wrote:
I'm just hoping the prices aren't crazy... less than a 1000 hopefully?
i saw where you can make your own... buy an upper and a lower... still researching that
I would suggest that you go prepared or you may be overwhelmed with options. Are you planning on optics? do you want a flat top or a carrying handle? are you left or right handed? do you want a carbine or a rifle? collapsible or solid stock? how fast a barrel do you want? what chamber do you want? what caliber?
have fun.
I'd suggest plinking away with a .22 rifle for starters. They're cheap enough that you won't have to buy used and deal with any hand-me-down issues, and the ammunition won't cost you an arm and a leg. Once that wears off, the R700's a good step up. The .308 Winchester is a widely-available round. You can often find them cheaper than what I've seen 30-06 or .270 Winchester go for, but sometimes (taking quality and grain into consideration), it can go the other way around.
I'd probably head to an outdoor range and rent a few different ones to see what you're more comfortable with.
For handguns, I've never had much luck with .22's, and prefer 9mm's, .38's and .45's.
I'd probably head to an outdoor range and rent a few different ones to see what you're more comfortable with.
For handguns, I've never had much luck with .22's, and prefer 9mm's, .38's and .45's.
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I'd still like to know what he plans to hunt. If its squirrels then .308 could be a bit big.Once that wears off, the R700's a good step up. The .308 Winchester is a widely-available round. You can often find them cheaper than what I've seen 30-06 or .270 Winchester go for, but sometimes (taking quality and grain into consideration), it can go the other way around.
Also where, typical distance etc. If its close range maybe a lever action would make sense.
It would all affect which .22 to start with, bolt action, lever action or auto.
Also, come to think of it, what distance are you plinking cans over? If its >75m then bullet drop for a .22LR gets tedious so a high velocity small-bore would be better.
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Get a penis enlargement, it will have the same effect
Get a .22 as a starter. Low recoil, light, slightly less dangerous. If you want to hunt medium prey. Anything bigger, you'll need something more powerful to make sure of the kill everytime.
Get a .22 as a starter. Low recoil, light, slightly less dangerous. If you want to hunt medium prey. Anything bigger, you'll need something more powerful to make sure of the kill everytime.
Well, he'd still have that .22 for squirrels.Dilbert_X wrote:
I'd still like to know what he plans to hunt. If its squirrels then .308 could be a bit big.Once that wears off, the R700's a good step up. The .308 Winchester is a widely-available round. You can often find them cheaper than what I've seen 30-06 or .270 Winchester go for, but sometimes (taking quality and grain into consideration), it can go the other way around.
Also where, typical distance etc. If its close range maybe a lever action would make sense.
It would all affect which .22 to start with, bolt action, lever action or auto.
Also, come to think of it, what distance are you plinking cans over? If its >75m then bullet drop for a .22LR gets tedious so a high velocity small-bore would be better.
As for type, I started with a .22 semi auto, and've done fine for it. I find lever action a bit squirrely for my taste, but some people like it. Bolt action's fine, but if he's going with an R700 later, it'd be a bit silly to have two.
Again for the OP, do some renting at an outdoor range and find something you're personally comfortable with. Someone could tell you to get an R700, but when you go to Remington's site, you'll see a ton of variants. The same could be said of most other rifles.