Freezer7Pro
I don't come here a lot anymore.
+1,447|6461|Winland

https://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb8/Freezer7Pro/IMG_0073-2.jpg

This, ladies and gentlemen, is my UPS. It has a battery that has five times the capacity of a normal UPS battery, and will deliver days of power for my laptop and modem. It also makes a loud humming noise and has a huge relay that goes KA-CLONK inside.

Is this awesome y/n?

Long version (OCforums)

I wrote:

I found my old 1998 UPS a couple of days ago, and thought I'd see if it still worked. I plugged it in, and it wouldn't even start, so I downloaded a manual, and sure enough, there needs to be power in the battery for it to even boot. So, I ripped out my ghetto battery charger (I.e 80's 14V/5A power supply) and tried to charge the battery, which, well, made it quite warm, but not much more. I realized that battery was dead.

Those small 12Ah gel-cell batteries are quite hard to get your hands on where I live, and they aren't very efficient in any way, so I thought I'd try something new, as I wouldn't cry if the UPS I got for free five years ago would die.

I went to a local car supply shop, and I was in luck. There was a sale on maintenance-free sealed lead batteries, as they had been standing for a couple of months. Those were just the batteries I was looking for, as they rarely leak acid, and the hydrogen emission that normal batteries have is more or less neutralized, as the cells can be permanently sealed.

I walked out with two battery connectors and a nice 55Ah battery for a grand total of 65€, something that would have been 135€ normally. I forgot to buy any decent cables, however, but that problem was quickly solved by slaughtering the PCI-E connectors off of an old PSU and putting them parallel, three by three. I then hooked up this:

https://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb8/Freezer7Pro/IMG_0073-2.jpg

Testing revealed that it can power my whole stereo system without even breaking a sweat, and that ain't exactly a small shelf stereo. It's two 1988 amplifiers that'll eat closer to 200W a piece on full blast. I didn't go full out, so I'd say the maximum load was around 300-350W. A video of the battery voltage can be found here.

According to calculations, this thing could power my laptop and modem for closer to 30 hours (including a 20% loss)

So, anyone else here running an awesome-UPS?
UPDATE

So, I couldn't resist getting another battery and hooking it up parallel with my other battery. They're such a bargain!

https://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb8/Freezer7Pro/IMG_0031-2.jpg

New battery installed on the test bed, cables checked, just gotta charge up the new battery a bit, and I'm fit for two hours of gaming without power. Fuck yeah!

Total power: 110Ah or 1320Wh. For a normal human being, that's about enough power to power your average gaming computer for two hours.

UPDATE

Stock battery vs new batteries:

https://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb8/Freezer7Pro/IMG_0033-2.jpg

UPDATE

Yet another upgrade has come upon my beautiful system! After a very successful advert in the local newspaper, I have here, from the local newspaper (lol), a 750W Smart-UPS from 2005 (old one from 1998 ). They had somehow managed to explode the batteries in it, how they did it is beyond me. Not that it matters, as the UPS itself is still working like new. And, well, it is new. The logs in it show that it had been plugged in for two months in 2006, and two days before I got it.

Not only is it 2-3 times as powerful as my old one, it is also 10-15% more effective, provides me with a clean sine wave output as opposed to the jagged on my old UPS, can support a hell of a lot more load, and runs on 24V, so I don't have to think of my cables burning up or my batteries equalizing (series vs parallel, if parallel, they'll charge/discharge each other during an hour or two until they're on the same voltage)

The black beauty:

https://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb8/Freezer7Pro/IMG_0076.jpg
Awesomeness in a box.

https://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb8/Freezer7Pro/IMG_0077-3.jpg
The left side. There used to be a black Smart Slot there, but I fucked it in favour of better cooling and more space for wiring.

https://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb8/Freezer7Pro/IMG_0078-3.jpg
Extended cooling on the transistors, made up of the heatsink from an old 7300LE. These eight transistors produce less heat than the four on my old one. Talk about difference in efficiency!

https://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb8/Freezer7Pro/IMG_0079-5.jpg
The batteries were hooked up with a nice little adapter, which makes for an awesome connector to connect the external batteries. Way more practical to just plug the batteries from the UPS rather than having to disconnect the batteries and fuck around with the cable as soon as I have to move the thing.

Last edited by Freezer7Pro (2008-11-24 04:46:57)

The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
killer21
Because f*ck you that's why.
+400|6855|Reisterstown, MD

lol.  We use that for our SAN..or something similar to it.(Emphasis on similar because we use something extremely large...trust me..it is heavy as fug buggle.  That's funny.

Last edited by killer21 (2008-11-10 08:43:55)

heggs
Spamalamadingdong
+581|6652|New York
Quite awesome, well done.
Remember Me As A Time Of Day
xRBLx
I've got lovely bunch of coconuts!!
+27|6619|England - Kent
I hope you tested that 1st cos otherwise when the lights go out.... ZAAAAAAAAAAAPP!

TBH thats is pretty awesome.

You get power outages alot then?
Freezer7Pro
I don't come here a lot anymore.
+1,447|6461|Winland

xRBLx wrote:

I hope you tested that 1st cos otherwise when the lights go out.... ZAAAAAAAAAAAPP!

TBH thats is pretty awesome.

You get power outages alot then?
The UPS works, I got it like 5 years ago with a half-dead battery. it's been standing around doing nothing for most of that time, and I got a deal on a new maintenance-free battery today, 55€ over normal 130€.

And a thing like that won't go zaaaaaaaap. Nothing in today's world really does. That thing is basically a couple of voltage regulators, a huge hunk of metal with some wire, and a fucktonne of protective systems.

And a speaker. A speaker that goes BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP as soon as power goes out.
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
steelie34
pub hero!
+603|6645|the land of bourbon

killer21 wrote:

lol.  We use that for our SAN..or something similar to it.(Emphasis on similar because we use something extremely large...trust me..it is heavy as fug buggle.  That's funny.
wait a minute.... i thought you worked for lockheed who has limitless $$$

unless you're saying it's not a ghetto mod but something so huge and unattainable that a car battery is the closest we'll ever get

Last edited by steelie34 (2008-11-10 13:13:23)

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utchin
Member
+8|6178
We just chucked 2 of thease out at work.... Ha.
Freezer7Pro
I don't come here a lot anymore.
+1,447|6461|Winland

utchin wrote:

We just chucked 2 of thease out at work.... Ha.
Nowai!
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
GravyDan
Back from the Grave(y)
+768|6196|CA
Beyond awsome.  Good job there Freezer.
Slarty
Member
+37|6228|Ingerland
We have about hmmmm, 25-30 of those in work, APC ones too

We also have voltage conditioning UPS's too, but for the life of me I can't remember the name of the company who make them
cospengle
Member
+140|6751|Armidale, NSW, Australia
Sweet, post-apocalyptic folding@home
killer21
Because f*ck you that's why.
+400|6855|Reisterstown, MD

steelie34 wrote:

wait a minute.... i thought you worked for lockheed who has limitless $$$

unless you're saying it's not a ghetto mod but something so huge and unattainable that a car battery is the closest we'll ever get
I do.  I was only kidding lol.

I don't know about limitless dollars but we do have a huge budget.
Freezer7Pro
I don't come here a lot anymore.
+1,447|6461|Winland

Ooh, I almost forgot about this topic.

https://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb8/Freezer7Pro/IMG_0031-2.jpg

New battery installed, cables checked, just gotta charge up the new battery a bit, and I'm fit for two hours of gaming without power. Fuck yeah!
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
AussieReaper
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
+5,761|6417|what

Freezer7Pro wrote:

Ooh, I almost forgot about this topic.
So did we.

That battery looks eerily similar to the one you posted in the "What tech did you buy today" thread.
https://i.imgur.com/maVpUMN.png
CammRobb
Banned
+1,510|6394|Carnoustie MASSIF
How old are you Freezer?
Freezer7Pro
I don't come here a lot anymore.
+1,447|6461|Winland

TheAussieReaper wrote:

Freezer7Pro wrote:

Ooh, I almost forgot about this topic.
So did we.

That battery looks eerily similar to the one you posted in the "What tech did you buy today" thread.
It's its evil twin.

SirSchloppy wrote:

How old are you Freezer?
15. Why?
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
CammRobb
Banned
+1,510|6394|Carnoustie MASSIF

Freezer7Pro wrote:

TheAussieReaper wrote:

Freezer7Pro wrote:

Ooh, I almost forgot about this topic.
So did we.

That battery looks eerily similar to the one you posted in the "What tech did you buy today" thread.
It's its evil twin.

SirSchloppy wrote:

How old are you Freezer?
15. Why?
That's impressive for a 15 year old.

+1 mate.
Freezer7Pro
I don't come here a lot anymore.
+1,447|6461|Winland

SirSchloppy wrote:

Freezer7Pro wrote:

TheAussieReaper wrote:


So did we.

That battery looks eerily similar to the one you posted in the "What tech did you buy today" thread.
It's its evil twin.

SirSchloppy wrote:

How old are you Freezer?
15. Why?
That's impressive for a 15 year old.

+1 mate.
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
SgtHeihn
Should have ducked
+394|6751|Ham Lake, MN (Fucking Cold)
Thats crazy man, you looking into being a engineer or the like?
Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|6885|London, England
Have you ever had to put it to the test yet? (Has the power ran out)


When I was 15, I was doing much more stupid shit, not saying what you're doing isn't stupid crazy shit, but that's in a good way.
Freezer7Pro
I don't come here a lot anymore.
+1,447|6461|Winland

SgtHeihn wrote:

Thats crazy man, you looking into being a engineer or the like?
Not really, and this isn't as advanced as it seems. DC is just red to red, black to black. Make sure everything is the same voltage, and it'll work.

Mekstizzle wrote:

Have you ever had to put it to the test yet? (Has the power ran out)


When I was 15, I was doing much more stupid shit, not saying what you're doing isn't stupid crazy shit, but that's in a good way.
I haven't tested the dual-battery setup to the fullest yet; Most I've done is to put the gaming computer (4GHz Wolfdale, 8800GT OC) under full load and a 24" screen on full brightness (eating 110W alone) plus a switch and a modem on it for five minutes. The poor 1998 260W UPS cried and went a bit more MRRR than usual, but it didn't shut off, which it does when battery voltage drops under 11V or the transistors/transformer overheat. Battery voltage didn't even drop under 12.6

I still have some work to do on this thing, I'm gonna make an LED battery meter, replace the tweeter with an LED, apply some active cooling, and so on.

As for blackouts, no, there haven't been anything worse than the occasional flicker lately. Blackouts are quite unusual here, but a certain pissy mom is good at causing some very local blackouts, so it'll be put to the test soon enough
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
Freezer7Pro
I don't come here a lot anymore.
+1,447|6461|Winland

Another pic.

https://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb8/Freezer7Pro/IMG_0033-2.jpg
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
GCFC
Davide Santon
+45|6193|NY/CT

Freezer7Pro wrote:

Ooh, I almost forgot about this topic.

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb8/ … 0031-2.jpg

New battery installed, cables checked, just gotta charge up the new battery a bit, and I'm fit for two hours of gaming without power. Fuck yeah!
sli batteries ftw
Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|6885|London, England
lol when you have a crazy mum you must do everything you can to adapt and survive. If anything, it'll do you good in the future now that you know how to cook for yourself/create a pretty good working uninterruptable power supply etc..
prototype
Member
+52|6575
Freezer, you have my respect man, being 15 years old and being able to do build that says a lot about you and you will prolly do well in life but it also says two other things about you.

1. Your house will burn down one day

2. You need a girl friend

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