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2008-11-09 19:54:47
TheDonkey
Eat my bearrrrrrrrrrr, Tonighttt
+163|5983|Vancouver, BC, Canada
Ok, so currently I run a Ubuntu Web server on a REALLY Old Dell Lappie(800Mhz P2, 256RAM, 10Gb Harddrive, etc) and I'm hoping to someday upgrade to something heftier,

What I want out of this:
  • Routing, I want 2 NIC's so I can use this thing as a router, my WRT54G V8 with DD-WRT bogs up and DNS crashes when I run torrents.
  • A BF2 Server capable of handling 32 people, not mandatory and most hardware should be capable.
  • Apache/PHP/MySQL(No Mail, I use Google Apps for that)
  • Torrent Box, I want it to download torrents for me, then automatically transfer them to my computer when I turn it on(more later)
  • *Backup Server(again, more later)*
  • Make it look like a server, Ideally a black Server case with hot-swappable bays(Rackmount would be but unlikely)
What Hardware I currently have:
  • 2 X 256MB DIMM DDR Sticks, working but not Memtest-ed
  • 1 x 20GB IDE HD, 1 x 80GB IDE HD
  • Random media related stuff(video/audio cards)
  • Broken L7VMM3 Mobo with 1.6Ghz Athlon soldered in.(Broken by means of it not rebooting unless power is unplugged/plugged back in)
  • Humming 400Watt power supply(Possibly good, but I don't trust a high pitched whine)


So I'm looking for some hardware that'll run me no more than $200 shipped to make a prettier server, it should run my Websites, local networking, and POSSIBLY a Subversion and/or a Backup server,

Problem with subversion and backup is that it requires a fuckload of Space, which is slightly out of budget, same with torrents, thus my download then transfer, my desktop currently has a 500GB harddrive with 400 partitioned for Media along.

So order of Importance:
  • Black server case(STFU, It's gotta look nice)
  • 2 NIC's, I don't mind using Onboard, but it's gotta have 2.
  • Sorta decent specs overall, IE BF2 Server capable
  • HD Space, I'm not really looking into RAID just yet because I can barely afford the minuscule amount of space I can, but some other day when I'm rich and have an 8800GTS SLI in my server PC Just cuz.

    Possible?

    Comments?


    P.S. IT'S GOTTA BE BUYABLE IN/SHIPPED TO CANADA, So Newegg.CA

Last edited by TheDonkey (2008-11-09 20:02:02)

2008-11-10 03:31:29
CrazeD
Member
+368|6939|Maine
No, not possible.

Cheapest rackmount - $76.99

Gigabyte P31 - $76.99

E2180 - $82.99

OVERBUDGET!


Even if you got a shittier motherboard, still over budget. If you got a 20$ mid tower case, you'd be better off.

Honestly, go to eBay and find parts. An old P4 with a cheap board, a cheap rackmount/mid-tower, etc. Then buy some things new, like grab a new PSU and a 500GB HDD or something.

Servers don't need much balls. BF2 only needs about 300-400MB RAM max, and any shitty CPU will run it fine. Web servers need hardly anything at all. Apache and Mysql take maybe 40MB combined with nothing running. Maybe 100MB at high load, and very little CPU power.
2008-11-10 17:59:34
TheDonkey
Eat my bearrrrrrrrrrr, Tonighttt
+163|5983|Vancouver, BC, Canada
Yeah, I actually did some basic research after posting the OP, and I'm very much liking that rackmount, but it may not be worth it, it's likely that I'll go stop by Free-Geek, it's a huge warehouse where people donate their crap computers and they get recycled, there's a part of the place that sells el cheapo systems, I'll prolly get a full 1.6Ghz/512 system for like $100, then get a new hard drive somewhere.

Maybe in the far future, when I have(much) more dough available, I'll get a rackmount case for my current computer, for my server, and a 12U Rack, ala
https://www.compsoc.man.ac.uk/~jamesg/avforums/inside.jpg

http://www.silentpcreview.com/forums/vi … p?p=353954


I can dream. Martin Luther King Jr. dreamed, and look where that got us.

Although that case can't be cheap >.<


Best part from above link:

Hard disc is a 250Gb SATA Samsung SP2504C. This is pretty quiet, and seek noise is hardly noticeable. To help dampen it down further, I fitted it in a Scythe Quiet Drive enclosure, and then suspended the whole thing with bungee cord in the case.

Last edited by TheDonkey (2008-11-10 18:05:46)

2008-11-10 18:11:27
jsnipy
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+3,277|6789|...

fraction of a point addressing dns getting bogged down ... how about pointing the machine that's tormenting directly to dns (or something more stable like opendns) to take the heatoff of the router.
2008-11-10 18:20:18
TheDonkey
Eat my bearrrrrrrrrrr, Tonighttt
+163|5983|Vancouver, BC, Canada

jsnipy wrote:

fraction of a point addressing dns getting bogged down ... how about pointing the machine that's tormenting directly to dns (or something more stable like opendns) to take the heatoff of the router.
Well the way I have it now, I've tweaked and tweaked and it seems to be working for now, but it still crashes every weekish, on all my computers I set Primary DNS to my router, and secondary to OpenDNS, and on the router I also set it to OpenDNS, problem is is that it's still a hassle, and OpenDNS is a bitch in taking over the default Firefox search parameter, so if you type a search into the address bar, it'll go to OpenDNS unless you edit the About:config to explicitly go to Google.

Consumer routers are crap.
(Although, I stayed at a friends house for a couple days last week, and it's a 3 story+basement townhouse, and I was in the basement, and his Airport Extreme managed to pull off like a 75% signal all the way in the basement.BUT, that's like a $150 router)
2008-11-11 08:39:30
mikkel
Member
+383|6867

TheDonkey wrote:

jsnipy wrote:

fraction of a point addressing dns getting bogged down ... how about pointing the machine that's tormenting directly to dns (or something more stable like opendns) to take the heatoff of the router.
Well the way I have it now, I've tweaked and tweaked and it seems to be working for now, but it still crashes every weekish, on all my computers I set Primary DNS to my router, and secondary to OpenDNS, and on the router I also set it to OpenDNS, problem is is that it's still a hassle, and OpenDNS is a bitch in taking over the default Firefox search parameter, so if you type a search into the address bar, it'll go to OpenDNS unless you edit the About:config to explicitly go to Google.

Consumer routers are crap.
(Although, I stayed at a friends house for a couple days last week, and it's a 3 story+basement townhouse, and I was in the basement, and his Airport Extreme managed to pull off like a 75% signal all the way in the basement.BUT, that's like a $150 router)
OpenDNS sucks. It hijacks lookups for nonexistent domains, and that's downright retarded. Instead of using your router as a forwarder, which is pointless, point your machines directly to your ISPs DNS servers, or to 4.2.2.1, 4.2.2.2, 4.2.2.3 or 4.2.2.4. These are Level 3 public DNS servers. Anything else is a stupid waste of resources.

 

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