War Man
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usmarine wrote:

War Man wrote:

MGS3_GrayFox wrote:

I still don't understand why women can't fight in the US ARMY, but congrats. 4-Star General, that is some serious BF2 online time.
And he says I'm an idiot.
well he is like a pimple.  you should leave it alone but it is so annoying you have to do something.
Lol
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MGS3_GrayFox
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usmarine wrote:

there are women pilots and such.  but i guess that is not fighting right?  lulz
Did I say Air Force? I said US ARMY didn't I?

Gosh, I'm actually worried you're becoming more and more retarded each passing day, its not even funny anymore.
Flecco
iPod is broken.
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MGS3_GrayFox wrote:

usmarine wrote:

MGS3_GrayFox wrote:

I still don't understand why women can't fight in the US ARMY
they do.

do you know anything?
"Women are barred from combat roles but have been allowed in the last two decades to serve in a wide variety of other positions."

That is what I meant, do you know how to read?
The Australian army avoids it because the bulk of serving combat troops an NCOs are male, and a few studies a while back showed that having females in the unit fucked with esprit de corp and fighting capabilities.

I can't provide a source because it was over a year ago I read this. Go google it if you want. Afaik females are allowed to fly aerolpanes that serve in combat roles and combat support roles like C130 gunships, AWAKS (or w/e the fuck those weird electronic warfare birds are called) and the old F18 superhornet.

Just not allowed to serve on the front lines with men. Or at least that's how Aus does it.
Whoa... Can't believe these forums are still kicking.
MGS3_GrayFox
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Flecco wrote:

MGS3_GrayFox wrote:

usmarine wrote:


they do.

do you know anything?
"Women are barred from combat roles but have been allowed in the last two decades to serve in a wide variety of other positions."

That is what I meant, do you know how to read?
The Australian army avoids it because the bulk of serving combat troops an NCOs are male, and a few studies a while back showed that having females in the unit fucked with esprit de corp and fighting capabilities.
Finally a good answer, I will search it, thank you.

I should've know better to expect an intelligent answer from usmarine from the start.
phishman420
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usmarine
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MGS3_GrayFox wrote:

usmarine wrote:

there are women pilots and such.  but i guess that is not fighting right?  lulz
Did I say Air Force? I said US ARMY didn't I?

Gosh, I'm actually worried you're becoming more and more retarded each passing day, its not even funny anymore.
erm..there are female helicopter pilots in the army.  so...who is the tard again?  oh ya...you.
Roc18
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MGS3_GrayFox wrote:

usmarine wrote:

MGS3_GrayFox wrote:

I still don't understand why women can't fight in the US ARMY
they do.

do you know anything?
"Women are barred from combat roles but have been allowed in the last two decades to serve in a wide variety of other positions."

That is what I meant, do you know how to read?
There are strong women fighting on the front lines in this war losing their lives. So I dont understand your point.
usmarine
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Roc18 wrote:

MGS3_GrayFox wrote:

usmarine wrote:


they do.

do you know anything?
"Women are barred from combat roles but have been allowed in the last two decades to serve in a wide variety of other positions."

That is what I meant, do you know how to read?
There are strong women fighting on the front lines in this war losing their lives. So I dont understand your point.
nobody understands his points tbh
blademaster
I'm moving to Brazil
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The case United States v. Virginia, in which the Supreme Court ordered that the Virginia Military Institute allow women to register as cadets, gave women soldiers a weapon against laws which (quoting J. Ruth Bader Ginsburg) “[deny] to women, simply because they are women, full citizenship stature—equal opportunity to aspire, achieve, participate in and contribute to society.” hopes that help a bit
Flecco
iPod is broken.
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GrayFox,  I'm going to have to agree with marine, I'm not sure what you're getting at, maybe because I didn't read the whole thread carefully but here's an article from the US Centre for Defence Information you might want to look at. It's pretty brief and doesn't go into too much detail, but I think it covers what you're after..... And it does cover what Marine and Roc18 mentioned.

Article...

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Whoa... Can't believe these forums are still kicking.
Harmor
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Well...we have a pussy in the White House...might as well have...
Poseidon
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Harmor wrote:

Well...we have a pussy in the White House...might as well have...
I'd assume you mean Obama? Which is funny after you make a thread like this.
Mint Sauce
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What's the big deal? She's perfectly capable to do the job, or she wouldn't be there in the first place.
#rekt
menzo
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medal whore
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kylef
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Flaming_Maniac wrote:

What do generals actually do anyways?
One of her main roles is to ensure all soldiers are properly and sufficiently equipped.
.Sup
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o shi
I hope shes a demi
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Commie Killer
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Hes got the Combat Action Badge, we can at least hope that he got it for actually being there and just not being in theater.
M.O.A.B
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Only branch I've heard of not allowing women in at the moment is the SEAL's, but I don't know if that still stands or not.
Stubbee
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I didn't see a CIB on Petraeus' fruit salad. It has been said that the only award that means anything is the CIB. He is old enough to have received it. Did he ever command a platoon or company in combat?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combat_Infantryman_Badge
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combat_Action_Badge

compare the 2

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rdx-fx
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In the US Army, women are barred from being in the Infantry or Infantry-based units  (Ranger, SF, etc)  as anything other than support.
Apparently the front-line knuckle draggers can't keep their dicks in their pants with females working beside them.

Engineer units do just fine.

Those female medivac pilots that are flying in to pick up those infantry - do just fine.

Those female medics - do just fine.

Those Electronic Warfare helicopter backseats (predominantly female), flying waaaay forward of the FLOT (front line) .. do just fine.


Realistic reasons why we don't have females in our infantry;
1) The infantry is generally a young man's game.  18-21 year old kids that think with their dicks at least as much as their heads.  The other branches are slightly older on average, and just barely more mature.  This little bit is the critical difference.

2) Infantry instills a competitive, aggressive, Type-A, meat-eater mentality.  You get them fired up, blood flowing, and competitive - they're gonna want to either fuck something or kill something.  The latter is the job of the Infantry - the former.. not so much.

Last edited by rdx-fx (2008-11-15 11:07:28)

menzo
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not everything is pointed out, or it in under his collar,or he doesn't not have it.
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rdx-fx
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Rule of thumb for medals:

If you were far enough forward to actually be doing something useful/dangerous/worthy-of-a-medal - there isn't going to be anyone around of high enough rank to put you in for that medal.

The higher the rank, the further to the rear you can be and still claim credit for actions at the front.




Privates and Corporals go home with a head full of scrambled shit, and an empty bottle of 100-proof.
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Colonels and Generals go home with a head full of delusional war stories, and a file cabinet of citations and medals.
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Sergeants and Captains keep the whole machine running, and rarely get any recognition for it - it's "just their job to do that shit"
tuckergustav
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I just watched a show yesterday about how although it is policy...it is not practice.  When you are fighting this type of war where there is no defined enemy front line...the women that are in support roles end up in the heat of battle.
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Stubbee
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+223|7191|Reality

menzo2003 wrote:

not everything is pointed out, or it in under his collar,or he doesn't not have it.
You don't hide the CIB under a collar. sheesh!
The US economy is a giant Ponzi scheme. And 'to big to fail' is code speak for 'niahnahniahniahnah 99 percenters'
rdx-fx
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+955|7039

tuckergustav wrote:

I just watched a show yesterday about how although it is policy...it is not practice.  When you are fighting this type of war where there is no defined enemy front line...the women that are in support roles end up in the heat of battle.
To put my above post another way;

It's not that women can't shoot at bad guys across from them - it's the young girls & young infantry guys next to them that would pose a mutual hazard.

18-21 year old infantry types just do NOT know how to behave around women in a long-term deployment environment.
Like telling a Rottweiler to be a vegetarian for 12-18 months. 
Not. Gonna. Happen.

Last edited by rdx-fx (2008-11-15 12:19:43)

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