New computer time, bit of a dilemna.

2008-11-16 05:13:33

#1

TimmmmaaaaH: Damn, I... had something for this; +725|6705|Brisbane, Australia

Well. I had sort of half planned to make myself an i7 rig when they came out.

I am reconsidering a little.

I did some quick price adding tonight and came up with these two builds.

1. i7 Build.

Asus P6T Deluxe
i7 920
6GB DDR3 Patriot
Asus 512MB 4870
Antec P182
Corsair HX-520
Seagate 500GB SATAII NCQ
Billion 3010N

$2487

2. C2Q Build.

Gigabyte GA-EP43-DS3L
Q6600
OCZ DDR2 4G(2x2G)PC-6400 800Mhz
Asus 512MB 4870
Antec P182
Corsair HX-520
Seagate 500GB SATAII NCQ
Billion 3010N

$1470

As you can see the only difference is the CPU, motherboard and RAM. That difference is $1017. That is a considerable amount.

Now I know i7 isnt going to make much of a difference in regard to gaming, and to be fair that is really all I will be doing other than stuff that the Q6600 will sleep through anyway (internet, office etc).

So. There isnt really a dilemna from a logical standpoint, but from massive e-penis standpoint it is a hard choice. Swallow my want for the new stuff and save $1017 I dont need to really spend? Or go for it?

Idk, hence the thread.

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2008-11-16 05:16:38

#2

AussieReaper: ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°); +5,761|6419|what

TimmmmaaaaH wrote:
Swallow my want for the new stuff and save $1017 I dont need to really spend?

Video card(s)?

2008-11-16 05:19:23

#3

TimmmmaaaaH: Damn, I... had something for this; +725|6705|Brisbane, Australia

I am content with a 4870 for now. I have played Crysis, dont feel the urge to go back to it.

2008-11-16 05:20:00

#4

max: Vela Incident; +1,652|6833|NYC / Hamburg

I know I would get the i7, but I'm a folding whore. You should go for the Q6600

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2008-11-16 05:45:19

#5

Mekstizzle: WALKER; +3,611|6887|London, England

I heard that i7 isn't all that cracked out as it is, infact when the hell was the last time we had something truly revolutionary in the CPU world. Probably around the time Core 2 came out. That was a long time ago.

Is it me or has everything just slowed down so much these days. Moore is getting angry

2008-11-16 05:47:44

#6

Freezer7Pro: I don't come here a lot anymore.; +1,447|6463|Winland

Mekstizzle wrote:
I heard that i7 isn't all that cracked out as it is, infact when the hell was the last time we had something truly revolutionary in the CPU world. Probably around the time Core 2 came out. That was a long time ago.

Is it me or has everything just slowed down so much these days. Moore is getting angry

In raw power, the new quads are plenty faster than an E6600 two years ago.

EDIT: On topic, C2Q build.

Last edited by Freezer7Pro (2008-11-16 05:48:38)

The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP

2008-11-16 06:29:12

#7

GC_PaNzerFIN: Work and study @ Technical Uni; +528|6680|Finland

Mekstizzle wrote:
I heard that i7 isn't all that cracked out as it is, infact when the hell was the last time we had something truly revolutionary in the CPU world. Probably around the time Core 2 came out. That was a long time ago.

Is it me or has everything just slowed down so much these days. Moore is getting angry

Moore didn't say performance doubles every 18 months... he said the transistors double.

gfx battle is overheating tho.

3930K | H100i | RIVF | 16GB DDR3 | GTX 480 | AX750 | 800D | 512GB SSD | 3TB HDD | Xonar DX | W8

2008-11-16 06:38:04

#8

Scorpion0x17: can detect anyone's visible post count...; +691|7032|Cambridge (UK)

Mekstizzle wrote:
around the time Core 2 came out. That was a long time ago.

What???

Core2 came out, what, 2-3 years ago.

That is NOT a long time ago.

Oh, and, on topic, C2Q - i7's brand spanking, still got that new smell, new. Hence it's over-priced.

Last edited by Scorpion0x17 (2008-11-16 06:39:55)

2008-11-16 07:21:51

#9

Bertster7: Confused Pothead; +1,101|6847|SE London

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
Mekstizzle wrote:
I heard that i7 isn't all that cracked out as it is, infact when the hell was the last time we had something truly revolutionary in the CPU world. Probably around the time Core 2 came out. That was a long time ago.

Is it me or has everything just slowed down so much these days. Moore is getting angry
Moore didn't say performance doubles every 18 months... he said the transistors double.

gfx battle is overheating tho.

Every 2 years. Not 18 months.

2008-11-16 07:25:48

#10

GC_PaNzerFIN: Work and study @ Technical Uni; +528|6680|Finland

Bertster7 wrote:
GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
Mekstizzle wrote:
I heard that i7 isn't all that cracked out as it is, infact when the hell was the last time we had something truly revolutionary in the CPU world. Probably around the time Core 2 came out. That was a long time ago.

Is it me or has everything just slowed down so much these days. Moore is getting angry
Moore didn't say performance doubles every 18 months... he said the transistors double.

gfx battle is overheating tho.
Every 2 years. Not 18 months.

ah my bad... it was something else that had 18 months cycle... just can't remember

btw HUGE 20€ price drop on the P6T Deluxe. It is now only 289€

Last edited by GC_PaNzerFIN (2008-11-16 07:26:55)

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2008-11-16 07:29:51

#11

Scorpion0x17: can detect anyone's visible post count...; +691|7032|Cambridge (UK)

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
it was something else that had 18 months cycle... just can't remember

That's how long it takes max to buy a new bit of hardware for his folding farm...

OH, no, sorry, that's every 18days...

2008-11-16 08:35:15

#12

kylef: Gone; +1,352|6759|N. Ireland

Panzer, I think you are thinking twice the performance and half the price for 18 months

2008-11-16 08:38:05

#13

max: Vela Incident; +1,652|6833|NYC / Hamburg

Scorpion0x17 wrote:
GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
it was something else that had 18 months cycle... just can't remember
That's how long it takes max to buy a new bit of hardware for his folding farm...

OH, no, sorry, that's every 18days...

no that's every 1.8 months. You gotta put the decimal point in the right place

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2008-11-16 08:56:17

#14

Zimmer: Un Moderador; +1,688|7022|Scotland

Um.... Why don't you go for a Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450 LGA775 'Yorkfield' 2.66GHz 12MB-cache (1333FSB) And keep the rest for your second rig option..... Then you are close to the performance power of the i7 yet saving a lot more. Yorkfield > Q6600.

Oh, and not Seagates, please. Samsung Spinpoints.

2008-11-16 15:08:47

#15

Bell: Frosties > Cornflakes; +362|6815|UK

Get the i7. Girlies will sleep with you because you have the newest processor

_{may as well wait it out, I did read that intel are fast tracking the 32nm shrink (I believe) so your investment, may not be worth epeen for very long}

2008-11-16 15:17:25

#16

phishman420: Banned; +821|5947

Save your money.

2008-11-16 18:03:04

#17

TimmmmaaaaH: Damn, I... had something for this; +725|6705|Brisbane, Australia

Zimmer wrote:
Um.... Why don't you go for a Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450 LGA775 'Yorkfield' 2.66GHz 12MB-cache (1333FSB) And keep the rest for your second rig option..... Then you are close to the performance power of the i7 yet saving a lot more. Yorkfield > Q6600.

Oh, and not Seagates, please. Samsung Spinpoints.

They seem to be quite rare in Australia for some reason.

I can hardly find a store stocking Q9450

And none in my state apparently...

2008-11-16 18:18:43

#18

mtb0minime: minimember; +2,418|6921

real money >> e-penis.

Save a shitload of money and go with the cheaper setup. Besides, not like you'll regret it anyway since you'll be doing the same thing you would with the other one (gaming), both of which can handle it just fine. Otherwise you'll be out an extra $1000 and be wishing you just went with the cheaper setup which would have the same effect on games (or nearly the same effect) except you could've used that extra money to buy more games or other accessories and stuff.

Seems like a no-brainer to me.

2008-11-16 18:39:02

#19

TimmmmaaaaH: Damn, I... had something for this; +725|6705|Brisbane, Australia

mtb0minime wrote:
real money >> e-penis.

Save a shitload of money and go with the cheaper setup. Besides, not like you'll regret it anyway since you'll be doing the same thing you would with the other one (gaming), both of which can handle it just fine. Otherwise you'll be out an extra $1000 and be wishing you just went with the cheaper setup which would have the same effect on games (or nearly the same effect) except you could've used that extra money to buy more games or other accessories and stuff.

Seems like a no-brainer to me.

You'd think so.

I am pretty much not getting the i7 I think. Hell, with the money I save I can get a new computer in 6 months anyway.

2008-11-16 19:13:28

#20

DrunkFace: Germans did 911; +427|6947|Disaster Free Zone

E8400 > Q6600

Also, worst time to buy a computer in Aus, prices have all jumped by about 20-25% in the last 2 or so weeks (Fucking Australian Dollar). To put it into perspective, my friend made a very similar build about 3 months ago, but also had a 22" monitor and laser mouse included and it came to about $1380, and another friend last week ordered a motherboard, but the place said it was out of stock then put th price up $50.

2008-11-16 19:39:14

#21

TimmmmaaaaH: Damn, I... had something for this; +725|6705|Brisbane, Australia

quad core isn't negotiable

And I know it isn't the best time, but I was waiting to see what the i7's would be like. And I want a new computer lol.

2008-11-16 20:36:34

#22

AussieReaper: ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°); +5,761|6419|what

What's the point in a new computer if you don't spend massive amounts on the gfx card? lol

2008-11-16 20:51:27

#23

TimmmmaaaaH: Damn, I... had something for this; +725|6705|Brisbane, Australia

TheAussieReaper wrote:
What's the point in a new computer if you don't spend massive amounts on the gfx card? lol

A 4870 isnt exactly a bad card.

edit:

and I have a 3800+ x2 AMD and 2gb of DDR <-- DDR RAM. It will be a significant upgrade.

Last edited by TimmmmaaaaH (2008-11-16 20:52:28)

2008-11-16 20:53:19

#24

Freezer7Pro: I don't come here a lot anymore.; +1,447|6463|Winland

TheAussieReaper wrote:
What's the point in a new computer if you don't spend massive amounts on the gfx card? lol

I used to say so.

Guess I've grown away from it

Fuck I wanna be a kid forever.

The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP

2008-11-16 20:55:43

#25

CrazeD: Member; +368|6939|Maine

At least get the 1GB version.

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