Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|6847|SE London

Poseidon wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

Poseidon wrote:


I know, right?

Also, yes the iPhone is overrated, but that doesn't make it any less of a damn good phone.

There's a reason why most new smart phones try to call themselves "iPhone killers".

I've yet to see one do it yet.
The BlackBerry Storm shits all over it from a great height.
Then I have no idea what the hell you've been reading...everything I've been reading places it as a good phone, but not an iPhone killer.

http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/19/blac … rm-review/

Going into this review, we really wanted to love this phone. On paper it sounds like the perfect antidote to our gripes about the iPhone, and in some ways it lives up to those promises -- but more often than not while using the Storm, we felt let down or frustrated. Ultimately, this could be a great platform with a little more time in the oven, but right now, it feels undercooked -- and that's not enough for us.
That's not to say it's bad - it's certainly not...it just doesn't beat the iPhone.

Hell, I'd probably get it if I didn't have the iPhone considering I used to be with Verizon.
I haven't been reading anything. I've been using them both.

Guess what - the Storm is actually good as a phone! The iPhone is shockingly bad for making and receiving calls.

Being able to actually use the Bluetooth it comes with is handy too.

Much, much better phone.
Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|6804|Long Island, New York

Bertster7 wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:


The BlackBerry Storm shits all over it from a great height.
Then I have no idea what the hell you've been reading...everything I've been reading places it as a good phone, but not an iPhone killer.

http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/19/blac … rm-review/

Going into this review, we really wanted to love this phone. On paper it sounds like the perfect antidote to our gripes about the iPhone, and in some ways it lives up to those promises -- but more often than not while using the Storm, we felt let down or frustrated. Ultimately, this could be a great platform with a little more time in the oven, but right now, it feels undercooked -- and that's not enough for us.
That's not to say it's bad - it's certainly not...it just doesn't beat the iPhone.

Hell, I'd probably get it if I didn't have the iPhone considering I used to be with Verizon.
I haven't been reading anything. I've been using them both.

Guess what - the Storm is actually good as a phone! The iPhone is shockingly bad for making and receiving calls.

Being able to actually use the Bluetooth it comes with is handy too.

Much, much better phone.
To each his own.

I've been able to use both (friend got one yesterday...we have a Verizon store right near us) and I still prefer the iPhone by a bit. Neither "shits over the other" as you put it.
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|6847|SE London

Poseidon wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

The BlackBerry Storm shits all over it from a great height.
Then I have no idea what the hell you've been reading...everything I've been reading places it as a good phone, but not an iPhone killer.

http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/19/blac … rm-review/


That's not to say it's bad - it's certainly not...it just doesn't beat the iPhone.

Hell, I'd probably get it if I didn't have the iPhone considering I used to be with Verizon.
I haven't been reading anything. I've been using them both.

Guess what - the Storm is actually good as a phone! The iPhone is shockingly bad for making and receiving calls.

Being able to actually use the Bluetooth it comes with is handy too.

Much, much better phone.
To each his own.

I've been able to use both (friend got one yesterday...we have a Verizon store right near us) and I still prefer the iPhone by a bit. Neither "shits over the other" as you put it.
Yes it does. It's a better phone. The PDA functionality of it is miles better. It's got a better camera - with video recording no less (how they left that off the iPhone I have no idea). On top of that, it hasn't had its functionality crippled by Apple.
Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|6804|Long Island, New York

Bertster7 wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

I haven't been reading anything. I've been using them both.

Guess what - the Storm is actually good as a phone! The iPhone is shockingly bad for making and receiving calls.

Being able to actually use the Bluetooth it comes with is handy too.

Much, much better phone.
To each his own.

I've been able to use both (friend got one yesterday...we have a Verizon store right near us) and I still prefer the iPhone by a bit. Neither "shits over the other" as you put it.
Yes it does. It's a better phone. The PDA functionality of it is miles better. It's got a better camera - with video recording no less (how they left that off the iPhone I have no idea). On top of that, it hasn't had its functionality crippled by Apple.
And yet from what I've seen, the iPhone still functions better as a multimedia player.

Having a better camera does not make the Storm better than the iPhone...whatsoever. The LG Dare has a better camera too, and I don't see anybody calling it the iPhone killer. The Camera on the iPhone does the job I need it to and does it well.

https://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v360/184/124/655780519/n655780519_1891459_5554.jpg
https://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v335/184/124/655780519/n655780519_1716496_8247.jpg
https://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v360/184/124/655780519/n655780519_1816874_7254.jpg

It's a good ALTERNATIVE for people (the Storm, that is) to the iPhone if they don't wanna switch services, but it's still not exactly an iPhone killer. Comes the closest, though.

I think the only thing about the iPhone that's pissed me off is the app crashes, but those are not Apple's fault.

Last edited by Poseidon (2008-11-22 03:43:30)

Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|6847|SE London

Poseidon wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

To each his own.

I've been able to use both (friend got one yesterday...we have a Verizon store right near us) and I still prefer the iPhone by a bit. Neither "shits over the other" as you put it.
Yes it does. It's a better phone. The PDA functionality of it is miles better. It's got a better camera - with video recording no less (how they left that off the iPhone I have no idea). On top of that, it hasn't had its functionality crippled by Apple.
And yet from what I've seen, the iPhone still functions better as a multimedia player.
No arguments there.

The camera on the iPhone is pretty crap though. I'm certainly not impressed by it. The lack of video recording functionality is just stupid.

On top of that the restricted functionality of the phone because of Apples stupidity is a major annoyance. I laughed when the court ruling came in making them change their advertising that claimed it was a fully functional web phone. The iPhone could've been so much more.

Last edited by Bertster7 (2008-11-22 03:47:45)

Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|6804|Long Island, New York

Bertster7 wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

Yes it does. It's a better phone. The PDA functionality of it is miles better. It's got a better camera - with video recording no less (how they left that off the iPhone I have no idea). On top of that, it hasn't had its functionality crippled by Apple.
And yet from what I've seen, the iPhone still functions better as a multimedia player.
No arguments there.
Well, that's what I bought it for mainly... I had a 2 gig (1.78 gigs actually) Nano when I have almost 9 gigs of music and 3 gigs of movies...I needed something that could both hold my music and play videos.

It does it pretty damn good so far. I've watched two movies on it and I use it as an iPod on my way to class every day. I don't make too many calls, so that feature's actually not even as important to me. Even with that as an argument though, I get 5 bars of 3G at my father's house (who lives in a heavily wooded area) with the iPhone, as opposed to the 1 bar or no signal I'd get with my previous phone on Verizon. I've had very little connectivity issues whatsoever.

Bertster7 wrote:

The camera on the iPhone is pretty crap though. I'm certainly not impressed by it. The lack of video recording functionality is just stupid.

On top of that the restricted functionality of the phone because of Apples stupidity is a major annoyance. I laughed when the court ruling came in making them change their advertising that claimed it was a fully functional web phone. The iPhone could've been so much more.
I don't get that either, and it's a minor inconvenience but not that big of a deal to me. I think someone's working on an App for the App Store that allows video recording, actually. Not sure though, I think I read it somewhere.

And it still CAN be much more thanks to the software updates and apps...hell, I'm upgrading to 2.2 as we speak. I can't even begin to guess what 3.0 will bring.

Last edited by Poseidon (2008-11-22 03:50:55)

Freezer7Pro
I don't come here a lot anymore.
+1,447|6463|Winland

Poseidon wrote:

I don't make too many calls, so that feature's actually not even as important to me.
The thing is, making calls on a phone shouldn't be considered a "feature"
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|6847|SE London

Poseidon wrote:

And it still CAN be much more thanks to the software updates and apps...hell, I'm upgrading to 2.2 as we speak. I can't even begin to guess what 3.0 will bring.
The fact that the 2.2 update was brought forward to coincide with the release of the Storm is very telling.

Freezer7Pro wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

I don't make too many calls, so that feature's actually not even as important to me.
The thing is, making calls on a phone shouldn't be considered a "feature"
Exactly.

Last edited by Bertster7 (2008-11-22 04:04:10)

Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|6804|Long Island, New York

Bertster7 wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

And it still CAN be much more thanks to the software updates and apps...hell, I'm upgrading to 2.2 as we speak. I can't even begin to guess what 3.0 will bring.
The fact that the 2.2 update was brought forward to coincide with the release of the Storm is very telling.

Freezer7Pro wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

I don't make too many calls, so that feature's actually not even as important to me.
The thing is, making calls on a phone shouldn't be considered a "feature"
Exactly.
It's not like it adds anything that major anyways...if anything, it's to compete with the G1, as it adds Google's street view to the Maps function.

And when you've got as many features and functions as the iPhone has, everything is considered one. It's all equally split.

Not to mention that's some severe nitpicking you're doing.

Last edited by Poseidon (2008-11-22 04:08:56)

Freezer7Pro
I don't come here a lot anymore.
+1,447|6463|Winland

Poseidon wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

And it still CAN be much more thanks to the software updates and apps...hell, I'm upgrading to 2.2 as we speak. I can't even begin to guess what 3.0 will bring.
The fact that the 2.2 update was brought forward to coincide with the release of the Storm is very telling.

Freezer7Pro wrote:


The thing is, making calls on a phone shouldn't be considered a "feature"
Exactly.
It's not like it adds anything that major anyways...if anything, it's to compete with the G1, as it adds Google's street view to the Maps function.

And when you've got as many features and functions as the iPhone has, everything is considered one. It's all equally split.

Not to mention that's some severe nitpicking you're doing.
"I have a car with a 500W RMS stereo, electronic steering, GPS integrated into the system, gold-plated pedals and a folding farm in the back. Oh, and did you know I can even DRIVE it?"
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|6847|SE London

Freezer7Pro wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

And it still CAN be much more thanks to the software updates and apps...hell, I'm upgrading to 2.2 as we speak. I can't even begin to guess what 3.0 will bring.
The fact that the 2.2 update was brought forward to coincide with the release of the Storm is very telling.


Exactly.
It's not like it adds anything that major anyways...if anything, it's to compete with the G1, as it adds Google's street view to the Maps function.

And when you've got as many features and functions as the iPhone has, everything is considered one. It's all equally split.

Not to mention that's some severe nitpicking you're doing.
"I have a car with a 500W RMS stereo, electronic steering, GPS integrated into the system, gold-plated pedals and a folding farm in the back. Oh, and did you know I can even DRIVE it?"
But it doesn't drive very well.

It doesn't matter though - because look at all the other awesome features.
FatherTed
xD
+3,936|6766|so randum

Bertster7 wrote:

Freezer7Pro wrote:

Poseidon wrote:


It's not like it adds anything that major anyways...if anything, it's to compete with the G1, as it adds Google's street view to the Maps function.

And when you've got as many features and functions as the iPhone has, everything is considered one. It's all equally split.

Not to mention that's some severe nitpicking you're doing.
"I have a car with a 500W RMS stereo, electronic steering, GPS integrated into the system, gold-plated pedals and a folding farm in the back. Oh, and did you know I can even DRIVE it?"
But it doesn't drive very well.

It doesn't matter though - because look at all the other awesome features.
Form/Function.
Small hourglass island
Always raining and foggy
Use an umbrella
ceslayer23
IN YOUR MIRROR
+142|6627|CLOSER THAN I APPEAR
N95 8GB shits over the iPhone and the Storm
Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|6804|Long Island, New York

Freezer7Pro wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

And it still CAN be much more thanks to the software updates and apps...hell, I'm upgrading to 2.2 as we speak. I can't even begin to guess what 3.0 will bring.
The fact that the 2.2 update was brought forward to coincide with the release of the Storm is very telling.


Exactly.
It's not like it adds anything that major anyways...if anything, it's to compete with the G1, as it adds Google's street view to the Maps function.

And when you've got as many features and functions as the iPhone has, everything is considered one. It's all equally split.

Not to mention that's some severe nitpicking you're doing.
"I have a car with a 500W RMS stereo, electronic steering, GPS integrated into the system, gold-plated pedals and a folding farm in the back. Oh, and did you know I can even DRIVE it?"
Again - nitpicking. Severely.

Apple shined (and still does) in the portable music player category, naturally that's where they're going to have their best part.

I personally see the actual phone part of it as being a feature because I use the iPod feature more.
kylef
Gone
+1,352|6759|N. Ireland
One word: touchscreen

That's the end of my debate on it.
DUnlimited
got any popo lolo intersting?
+1,160|6729|cuntshitlake

ceslayer23 wrote:

N95 8GB shits over the iPhone and the Storm
Not to even talk about N96.

But when people want form over function, iPhone does it.

kylef wrote:

One word: touchscreen

That's the end of my debate on it.
I can honestly say I hate toucscreens and can't seriously consider anything that makes a touchscreen better than regular buttons besides getting a bigger screen. In my opinion touchscreens are just impractical.

Last edited by DeathUnlimited (2008-11-22 09:10:11)

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Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|6804|Long Island, New York

kylef wrote:

One word: touchscreen

That's the end of my debate on it.
The Storm has a touchscreen too Kyle...

Not to mention that some people hate touchscreens severely.
ceslayer23
IN YOUR MIRROR
+142|6627|CLOSER THAN I APPEAR

kylef wrote:

One word: touchscreen

That's the end of my debate on it.
exactly, touchscreens are exactly why the iphone sucks so much cock
kylef
Gone
+1,352|6759|N. Ireland

Poseidon wrote:

kylef wrote:

One word: touchscreen

That's the end of my debate on it.
The Storm has a touchscreen too Kyle...

Not to mention that some people hate touchscreens severely.
I see the blackberry as more of a PDA than a phone, unlike the iPhone. Just my own beliefs.

Why does everyone hate touchscreen? They're great. They're the future.
Freezer7Pro
I don't come here a lot anymore.
+1,447|6463|Winland

kylef wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

kylef wrote:

One word: touchscreen

That's the end of my debate on it.
The Storm has a touchscreen too Kyle...

Not to mention that some people hate touchscreens severely.
I see the blackberry as more of a PDA than a phone, unlike the iPhone. Just my own beliefs.

Why does everyone hate touchscreen? They're great. They're the future.
The iPhone is more phone than PDA?

*Ahem*
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
kylef
Gone
+1,352|6759|N. Ireland

Freezer7Pro wrote:

kylef wrote:

Poseidon wrote:


The Storm has a touchscreen too Kyle...

Not to mention that some people hate touchscreens severely.
I see the blackberry as more of a PDA than a phone, unlike the iPhone. Just my own beliefs.

Why does everyone hate touchscreen? They're great. They're the future.
The iPhone is more phone than PDA?

*Ahem*
Sorry, bad wording. I just class PDA and iPhone into different categories - I consider the iPhone as more of ... a mini computer almost.
.Sup
be nice
+2,646|6719|The Twilight Zone

kylef wrote:

Freezer7Pro wrote:

kylef wrote:


I see the blackberry as more of a PDA than a phone, unlike the iPhone. Just my own beliefs.

Why does everyone hate touchscreen? They're great. They're the future.
The iPhone is more phone than PDA?

*Ahem*
Sorry, bad wording. I just class PDA and iPhone into different categories - I consider the iPhone as more of ... a mini computer almost.
Imo PDA is closer to computer- faster processor, RAM and OS.
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Freezer7Pro
I don't come here a lot anymore.
+1,447|6463|Winland

.Sup wrote:

kylef wrote:

Freezer7Pro wrote:


The iPhone is more phone than PDA?

*Ahem*
Sorry, bad wording. I just class PDA and iPhone into different categories - I consider the iPhone as more of ... a mini computer almost.
Imo PDA is closer to computer- faster processor, RAM and OS.
The iPhone simply is a PDA. An Apple-branded PDA with a touchscreen and a phone feature.
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
.Sup
be nice
+2,646|6719|The Twilight Zone

Freezer7Pro wrote:

.Sup wrote:

kylef wrote:


Sorry, bad wording. I just class PDA and iPhone into different categories - I consider the iPhone as more of ... a mini computer almost.
Imo PDA is closer to computer- faster processor, RAM and OS.
The iPhone simply is a PDA. An Apple-branded PDA with a touchscreen and a phone feature.
Not denying it but said ordinary PDA is closer to PCs. Every hardware is better in PDAs.
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Anything Apple makes, cannot be killed.

That's what it seems like.

..Except for their computers.

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