Black Vaine
Member
+43|7073|K-Town, Sweden
I've been reading the forums now a long time and many times people talk about the blackhawk's minigun before a certain patch ( 1.03) i think, can someone explain? I have not played battlefield 2 so long, my enrollment date were on december  :3rd, patch 1.12 . Was the minigun stronger or what?


Best regards; Dario


( note: [Q] = Question )

Last edited by Black Vaine (2006-03-12 10:27:34)

{M5}Sniper3
Typical white person.
+389|7211|San Antonio, Texas
Pre-patch, the Blackhawk was a flying fortress. You would get it fully loaded with a good pilot, two gunners, and two or three engineers and go around capping all the flags. After the patch, the armor for it was reduced and the time to fix it was increased.
General_CoLin_Tassi
Member
+-2|7151|England, UK
Mini gun was stronger, maybe too strong in some peoples opinion but now its shit.
mustang0341
Member
+0|7137|Nebraska
. Why did EA have to fuck with the miniguns. There was nothing wrong with them. I mean have you seen those things in real life???? Now I know that this is a game and not real life but shit now you have to spend the entire 15 seconds before the gun goes cold to hit one fucking guy now. And now that anti-air is so beefed up how is a BH gunner suppose to hit the rocket pod now...huh EA?? They have cripled the Black Hawk seriously. Besides there were only a handful of maps where the minigun really tore shit up .....namely wake island after the airfield is taken but shit it is hard enough to win on the map as it is for the USMC. Though really they took the effectiveness of the weapon and moved it to the opposite end of the spectrum ...it flat out sucks now. I am not bitching because I used to rack up tons of kills with it  actually I am the BH pilot for my clan. But why did they mess with it ????There were not even that many complaints about it......if it aint broke don't fucking fix it EA. Now the minigun is as good as the 50.cal on the MEC and Chinese support helos...helo it is a minigun capable of over 4 thousand round a min how could you miss. It took my gunner weeks to get good with that gun , and believe me he is good (pre patch) now WTF!!!! I am pissed my internet was off due to a move for the last montha and a half and I have come back to this ..........THANKS A FUCKING LOT EA...... and YOU BASTRDS at DICE........

P.S. don't ban me for talkin shit about EA/DICE I am just venting and I do love thier products whole heartidly, nut after a month of not playin it is like smack in the face to come back to these weak flyin deathtraps.
notorious
Nay vee, bay bee.
+1,396|7198|The United Center
Now the minigun is as good as the 50.cal on the MEC and Chinese support helos
balance, pure and simple.  you answered your own question.
dracul
Member
+2|7258
There was nothing wrong with them.
Except they could sweep an entire flag with a shot-pattern and damage high enough to clean it out entirely.
Or completely destroy their own counters, ground SAMs and light vehicles in a second of sustained fire.

Accurate, but completely imbalanced for the game.
I mean IRL they can be equiped with rocket and gun pods just like a cobra...
Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
+874|7126|Canberra, AUS
I still think the BH is better than the other 2. A lot better to fly, a lot easier to sit out the side, a lot harder to hit than a flying cow.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
Torin
Member
+52|7143
I think if they wanted the transport helos to be transport helos, they should have made them the equivalent to Little Birds. (AH-6, UH-6, etc.) As it is now, it is a huge, flying coffin. As of 1.12, the guns on the Blackhawk were good and very usable. Now, the Blackhawk is hardly worth using, unless you want a quick death.

What they should have done is beefed up the guns on the MEC and PLA transport choppers to bring them in line with the Blackhawk. The Blackhawk is a flying gun platform more than it is a transport chopper, and they gutted that part of it. Now, it is more or less useless.

I say bring the guns back to the Blackhawk, and beef up the other transport choppers. With the reduced hitpoints 1.2 brought to helicopters, bringing them down is not difficult, especially if they try to stick around and kill people. I think with 1.2 hitpoints and 1.12 guns, the Blackhawk is balanced just fine. It's supposed to be good, right now, it just sucks.
delta_III
Member
+4|7077|Carrollton, Tx
LOL  "Flying Coffin" , that is exactly what it is now.

You guys are exactly right about the blackhawk being useless.  What a waste.
shadow18alpha
I attend BF2 Anonymous Meetings
+129|7126|Warlord/Bellevue,WA
I miss the old days of Black Hawk whoring
[zulu]steviep831
Member
+6|7084|Florida

mustang0341 wrote:

. Now I know that this is a game and not real life but shit now you have to spend the entire 15 seconds before the gun goes cold to hit one fucking guy now.
Completely agree. Before you could kill a guy on the run, but now, I feel quite embarassed when I can't hit the broad side of as barn, much less kill a soldier 100 ft. below me.... ???I think you'd have a better chance with the PKM sitting in one of the passenger positions...
Torin
Member
+52|7143
Hitting people from 100 ft. up in a moving blackhawk, having to constantly adjust your aim and lead based on your elevation and velocity, is more or less impossible unless you have splash damage. That's why you're lucky to kill 1 guy in a moving blackhawk before the guns overheat on you. That's why they need splash damage like they used to have, and that's why the guns from the other transport helis should be upgraded as well.
General_CoLin_Tassi
Member
+-2|7151|England, UK

Torin wrote:

I think if they wanted the transport helos to be transport helos, they should have made them the equivalent to Little Birds. (AH-6, UH-6, etc.) As it is now, it is a huge, flying coffin. As of 1.12, the guns on the Blackhawk were good and very usable. Now, the Blackhawk is hardly worth using, unless you want a quick death.

What they should have done is beefed up the guns on the MEC and PLA transport choppers to bring them in line with the Blackhawk. The Blackhawk is a flying gun platform more than it is a transport chopper, and they gutted that part of it. Now, it is more or less useless.

I say bring the guns back to the Blackhawk, and beef up the other transport choppers. With the reduced hitpoints 1.2 brought to helicopters, bringing them down is not difficult, especially if they try to stick around and kill people. I think with 1.2 hitpoints and 1.12 guns, the Blackhawk is balanced just fine. It's supposed to be good, right now, it just sucks.
Well said. Bring the other choppers in line with the BH. BH miniguns are now shit.

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