Hurricane2k9
Pendulous Sweaty Balls
+1,538|5968|College Park, MD
I recently upgraded to Vista 64-bit, from XP.

Whenever I start up the computer, I'm greeted with the "Windows Boot Manager" which lets me boot into either Visa or a "Previous Version of Windows" (none of which are installed...). If you don't pick anything for 30 seconds, it auto-boots into Vista.

A minor annoyance, but I'd like to figure out how to make it not appear. Any help? If it matters, I have two hard drives (C:\ which is the main drive and D:\ which is the backup drive). Also, for some odd reason, Vista won't let me format the D:\ drive.
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blademaster
I'm moving to Brazil
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Cheez
Herman is a warmaphrodite
+1,027|6705|King Of The Islands

boot.ini in your Windows volume.

Turn on Show System and Hidden files in Folder Options.
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Hurricane2k9
Pendulous Sweaty Balls
+1,538|5968|College Park, MD

Cheez wrote:

boot.ini in your Windows volume.

Turn on Show System and Hidden files in Folder Options.
I don't see it in the Windows folder

I looked in my D:\ drive and found a file called BOOTSECT.bak. Some googling told me that I could delete this; there was also an empty folder in there.

In my C:\ drive, at the very root, there's a folder called $WINDOWS.~BT

In it is a folder called Sources

In Sources is a folder called Rollback

In there, there are some files called bootmbr.dat and bootsect.dat

Could these be the culprits?
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Cheez
Herman is a warmaphrodite
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"Volume" is the new "Partition". I meant your C:\boot.ini or D:\boot.ini, whichever Vista has installed itself to.

Paste it here if you want, so we can take a look, but most of the time all you have to do is delete the second Windows from the list.
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Hurricane2k9
Pendulous Sweaty Balls
+1,538|5968|College Park, MD
There's no boot.ini in C:\

Last edited by Hurricane2k9 (2008-11-25 18:42:08)

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Cheez
Herman is a warmaphrodite
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Oh, so there isn't. Could have sworn I'd seen one.

This guy seems overly excited to help:

http://www.flexbeta.net/forums/lofivers … t8373.html
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Hurricane2k9
Pendulous Sweaty Balls
+1,538|5968|College Park, MD
What the
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Hurricane2k9
Pendulous Sweaty Balls
+1,538|5968|College Park, MD
Jesus christ, searching for some of these mysterious files like "bootmbr.dat" or that "$WINDOWS.~BT" folder gets you absolutely zero useful Google results.

I'm tempted to delete that folder. Bad idea?
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AussieReaper
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Hurricane2k9 wrote:

I'm tempted to delete that folder. Bad idea?
I wouldn't. Better to be safe then sorry.

I'll go looking for your solution, gimme a few mins.
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Hurricane2k9
Pendulous Sweaty Balls
+1,538|5968|College Park, MD

TheAussieReaper wrote:

Hurricane2k9 wrote:

I'm tempted to delete that folder. Bad idea?
I wouldn't. Better to be safe then sorry.

I'll go looking for your solution, gimme a few mins.
Found something... it seems like it's a temporary folder made during installation:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/927521/en-us
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AussieReaper
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Windows Boot Manager
If you have more than one operating system installed on your computer, you'll have to deal with the Windows Boot Manager installed by Windows Vista. By default, the Windows Boot Manager gives you 30 seconds to select an operating system before it reverts to the default operating system. The only way not to wait 30 seconds is to select the operating system you want to use right away. If you use one operating system the majority of your time, you will definitely save time if you set that operating system as the default and lower the Timeout value to 1 or 2 seconds. That way, you will not have to select an operating system every time you turn on your system or wait 30 seconds before your computer actually starts to load the operating system.


Tip
Before you make any changes to the Windows Boot Manager (WBM), it is a good idea to back it up using the Boot Configuration Data Editor (bcdedit.exe) so that you can easily revert back to an earlier version should you have any problems. At a command prompt running under an administrator account, type bcdedit /export "C:\Backup File". This will save the WBM to a file that you can use to import using the /import flag.

Lowering OS Timeout values
As mentioned earlier, if you have multiple operating systems installed on your computer and the Windows Boot Manager is installed, the default selection timeout is often way too high. It is much better to set a lower timeout so that if you do not make a selection, it quickly reverts to the default OS, making your boot time much faster.
Changing the Timeout value is simple with the System Configuration utility. Follow the steps here to use the System Configuration utility to lower the OS Timeout value:

   1. Click the Start button, type msconfig in the Search box, and press Enter.
   2. When the System Configuration utility loads, click the Boot tab.
   3. Locate the Timeout box and replace 30 with a much lower value. I recommend you use between 2 and 5. I use 2 because that gives me just the right amount of time to press a key on my keyboard when the Windows Boot Manager is displayed on the screen.
   4. After the value has been updated, click OK to exit.

Now that the Timeout value has been updated, the Boot menu will no longer increase your system startup time. Even though this is a simple tip, it really helps a lot on systems that have multiple operating systems installed. Now let's look at setting the default operating system on the Windows Boot Manager.

Setting the default OS

In the preceding section, I set a new Timeout value that will cut down on the amount of time that is wasted before the operating system starts to load. That works great when your primary operating system is the default; but if it is not, you must remember to press a key at the right moment on every single boot. There is a much better way to handle the situation. Just make your primary operating system the default operating system in the Windows Boot Manager. This will allow you to benefit from the lower Timeout value and speed up the overall boot time.

Setting the default operating system is a little more difficult because you need to use the command-line Boot Configuration Editor, bcdedit.exe. The Boot Configuration Editor is part of Windows Vista, but it requires an account with administrative rights to run. Even if you are logged in with an account that has administrator rights but have user account control enabled, by default the tool will not run as administrator. Follow these steps to use the Boot Configuration Editor to set the default operating system:

   1. Click the Start button and navigate through All Programs and Accessories.
   2. Locate the Command Prompt shortcut and right-click it to bring up the context menu.
   3. Select Run as administrator from the context menu.
   4. When the command prompt has loaded, you are ready to use the bcdedit.exe command. First, you need to get the ID of the operating system that you want to set as the default. To do this, type bcdedit /enum all in the open command prompt window. Scroll through the list of different entries and look for the one with the description matching "Microsoft Windows" for Windows Vista.
   5. After you have found the correct entry, note its identifier. That is used in the next step.
   6. While still at the command prompt, run bcdedit /default (entry identifier). For example, I ran bcdedit /default {}.

The default operating system on the Window Boot Manager is now set. The next time you reboot, your changes will be in use.


Tip
The Boot Configuration Editor is a powerful utility that you can also use to change many other settings of the Windows Boot Manager. Experiment with bcdedit.exe by running bcdedit /? from command prompt. This will show you all the other available options and flags that you can use with the Boot Configuration Editor.
Relevant? Lower the OS timeout value and chose the default as Vista (already done anyway).

You should boot after 1 sec and not need to select anything lol

Last edited by TheAussieReaper (2008-11-25 19:04:19)

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Hurricane2k9
Pendulous Sweaty Balls
+1,538|5968|College Park, MD
I think so, but the thing is I only have Vista installed so that boot manager shouldn't even pop up. That's why I want to delete that folder I mentioned; I fear that's the root of the problem.

Last time I had Vista, I don't think I ever saw that folder there...

edit: Also it requires a minimum boot time of 3 seconds

Last edited by Hurricane2k9 (2008-11-25 19:05:27)

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AussieReaper
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Hmm. Sorry hurri, I don't use Vista so can't really help you any more than that.

I really don't want to fuck your boot settings without knowing what I'm doing.

Good luck. Hopefully someone else here will have seen or had your problem and solved it.
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Hurricane2k9
Pendulous Sweaty Balls
+1,538|5968|College Park, MD
Thanks Aussie

I think I'll just go for it. If I don't return within 5 days... it's cause I died. If the world ends - my bad.
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SgtHeihn
Should have ducked
+394|6753|Ham Lake, MN (Fucking Cold)
Thats why I like XP... but I am downloading a version of Vista to tryout. Not the Home version, ultimate 64

Last edited by SgtHeihn (2008-11-25 19:16:42)

Hurricane2k9
Pendulous Sweaty Balls
+1,538|5968|College Park, MD

Hurricane2k9 wrote:

Thanks Aussie

I think I'll just go for it. If I don't return within 5 days... it's cause I died. If the world ends - my bad.
Hmm, deleting it did nothing. I might mess around with that command-line boot editor
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Hurricane2k9
Pendulous Sweaty Balls
+1,538|5968|College Park, MD
Okay, I got the timeout down to 1. I guess I'll just forget about it, since it disappears almost instantly.
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Catbox
forgiveness
+505|6982
have you tried.... msconfig... then boot... then boot options...
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Hurricane2k9
Pendulous Sweaty Balls
+1,538|5968|College Park, MD

[TUF]Catbox wrote:

have you tried.... msconfig... then boot... then boot options...
That only let me reduce the time the screen shows to 3 seconds (I had to use the command line to set it to 1 second). And the damn thing still appears. But I can live with it if it disappears almost as soon as it appears...
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ghettoperson
Member
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Do you still have XP and want to use it? Or not?

If you do, unplug the XP drive, and then boot up the Windows install CD. You then want to follow these instructions to fix the master boot record. I *think* that should stop it. I did that, and then I just booted into which OS I wanted by using my mobo to select which drive to boot off.
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max
Vela Incident
+1,652|6833|NYC / Hamburg

Hurricane2k9 wrote:

[TUF]Catbox wrote:

have you tried.... msconfig... then boot... then boot options...
That only let me reduce the time the screen shows to 3 seconds (I had to use the command line to set it to 1 second). And the damn thing still appears. But I can live with it if it disappears almost as soon as it appears...
you can delete the second entry from there afaik
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tupla_s
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+455|6858|Finland
Don't know if this works in vista. Right click my computer and select properties.
Under advanced tab select 'startup and recovery', there's a box you can unselect that says 'show os list'

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