Benzin
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This little 900 continues to amaze me. I just downloaded Steam and installed CS 1.6 on it and got the game running. Gotta tune the config a bit, but with a 3G modem with about 1.5MB/s download rate, I was getting about 30-50 FPS at 800x600 resoution. Couldn't really play because the ping was high and using a touchpad with an fps game is really lame. But when I get home, the experimentation continues ...
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Um, k
everything i write is a ramble and should not be taken seriously.... seriously.
Defiance
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~40 FPS in GoldSrc... ok.
Freezer7Pro
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What's so special about that? It's a ten-year-old game that you run on a 15-year-old resolution. On a new computer. At an fps that was ok-ish and no more when the game was new.
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
Benzin
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Yea, but on the slower MLC SSD (essentially just a flash card) with the pitiful integrated graphics and the tiny little 3G modem. Not too bad, I would say.

Someone's jaded ...
Freezer7Pro
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CapnNismo wrote:

Yea, but on the slower MLC SSD (essentially just a flash card) with the pitiful integrated graphics and the tiny little 3G modem. Not too bad, I would say.

Someone's jaded ...
What would the 3G modem and slow HD have to do with your FPS?
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
.Sup
be nice
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Freezer7Pro wrote:

CapnNismo wrote:

Yea, but on the slower MLC SSD (essentially just a flash card) with the pitiful integrated graphics and the tiny little 3G modem. Not too bad, I would say.

Someone's jaded ...
What would the 3G modem and slow HD have to do with your FPS?
Slow HDD can cause lagging and stuttering.


Nismo try FEAR, Aspire can handle it
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Benzin
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Never played FEAR. What is it?

The 3G modem would affect the connection and thus the FPS. But the SSD will affect the FPS because the data could bottleneck in the system between the CPU and RAM. Wow, I knew something Freezer didn't.
Uzique
dasein.
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Zzz.

The only 'ok, cool!' bonus I will give to all these faddy mini-mini-mini-notebooks is that they're actually quite good for mobile DJ'ing. That is, assuming you have a 10-song mp3 collection and want to risk your DJ software freezing or crashing because of the pitiful performance. But apart from that- yes! Go go over-glamorized and over-hyped email client / notepad!
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DUnlimited
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CapnNismo wrote:

Never played FEAR. What is it?

The 3G modem would affect the connection and thus the FPS. But the SSD will affect the FPS because the data could bottleneck in the system between the CPU and RAM. Wow, I knew something Freezer didn't.
In CS connection has nothing to do with FPS really. Quake3 is totally different, but CS, nope.
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Benzin
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I beg to differ. On my 3G connection with my normal laptop, the FPS is low and the ping crappy. But switch over to my cable modem on the same laptop and everything is back to normal.

Uzique - there are people who do use them as mobile DJ systems and they work quite well. Head over to the EEE User Forums and check it out.
Uzique
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I know that 'some people' do, but from what I've heard anyone with a large music collection (i.e. any half-decent DJ), with a wide range of sound sources/inputs/outputs will cripple the machines. They can't cope with RAM-intensive programs and constant MIDI abuse... their size isn't such a great bonus, I'm not throwing away my hideously-huge 15" laptop in any hurry .
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Freezer7Pro
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.Sup wrote:

Freezer7Pro wrote:

CapnNismo wrote:

Yea, but on the slower MLC SSD (essentially just a flash card) with the pitiful integrated graphics and the tiny little 3G modem. Not too bad, I would say.

Someone's jaded ...
What would the 3G modem and slow HD have to do with your FPS?
Slow HDD can cause lagging and stuttering.


Nismo try FEAR, Aspire can handle it

CapnNismo wrote:

Never played FEAR. What is it?

The 3G modem would affect the connection and thus the FPS. But the SSD will affect the FPS because the data could bottleneck in the system between the CPU and RAM. Wow, I knew something Freezer didn't.
@Sup: In games, the only part where a slow SSD would really affect is the loading. SSDs have so incredibly fast random access time that even a slow SSD works better for swapping than a regular HD. Plus, unless the thing has like 256MB of RAM, there won't be any swapping in CS 1.6.

@CapnNismo: There is a difference between ping and FPS. As a matter of fact, they're two completely different things that, unless the game is poorly written, have nothing to do with each other. Hard drives are also not between CPU and RAM.
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
DUnlimited
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Freezer7Pro wrote:

There is a difference between ping and FPS. As a matter of fact, they're two completely different things that, unless the game is poorly written, have nothing to do with each other.
I beg to differ on this. In all quake engine games maxpackets and maxfps are somehow related to each other. Basically that means that without tweaking your fps will activte slideshow mode if ping goes too high, and on the other had you will lose connection if yout fps goes to some crazy amounts. That's why people lock their cl_maxpackets / com_maxfps (certain values also give improvement in gameplay).

And if you try to tell me Quake3 is poorly written, I can remind you of all the amazing games you have played that are based on it.
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Benzin
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Freezer, the read/write speed on MLC SSDs is really bad. Write especially so. It's only in the past, oh 6 months or so that a lot of NEW SSDs have come to the market in mini PCI-E form like the SSDs found in most netbooks that are fixing the problems. Which is good, because some of them, like the 900A and the 900 16G suffered greatly from slow MLC SSDs.

But last I checked, the computer loads data from the HDD to the RAM to the CPU and back again. Sorry, my English was bad in saying "in between", that was my fault.

Freezer, all I am telling you is what my experiences are when switching between the slower 3G to the much faster cable connection on a normal laptop. The EEE is also running at 900 MHz which is roughly the base requirement for CS 1.6 (would be lower, but since they switched to Steam a few years ago ...). Anyway. I am personally surprised that my EEE handled the game as nicely as it did even with a ping of 150. So yea. Go back to your massively large laptop and leave me alone and let me tinker with my toy.
Freezer7Pro
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CapnNismo wrote:

Freezer, the read/write speed on MLC SSDs is really bad. Write especially so. It's only in the past, oh 6 months or so that a lot of NEW SSDs have come to the market in mini PCI-E form like the SSDs found in most netbooks that are fixing the problems. Which is good, because some of them, like the 900A and the 900 16G suffered greatly from slow MLC SSDs.

But last I checked, the computer loads data from the HDD to the RAM to the CPU and back again. Sorry, my English was bad in saying "in between", that was my fault.

Freezer, all I am telling you is what my experiences are when switching between the slower 3G to the much faster cable connection on a normal laptop. The EEE is also running at 900 MHz which is roughly the base requirement for CS 1.6 (would be lower, but since they switched to Steam a few years ago ...). Anyway. I am personally surprised that my EEE handled the game as nicely as it did even with a ping of 150. So yea. Go back to your massively large laptop and leave me alone and let me tinker with my toy.
If you have more than 256MB RAM, you basically won't need your HD when playing CS 1.6, for other than loading maps. Even if you would be, the HD won't cause low FPS, it'll cause second-long freezes. Similar for high ping, it'll cause bad hitreg and jaggy gameplay, but it won't drop your FPS.
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
Benzin
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Fine.

But the integrated graphics are still very poor ...

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