DDR3 dilemma. Get this kit, yes, no?

2008-11-29 05:39:12

#1

GC_PaNzerFIN: Work and study @ Technical Uni; +528|6680|Finland

As I have made my mind of getting Core i7 at somepoint in near future, I have been looking for low latency 1600MHz kits.

I haven't been very succcesful as either the availability is none or price is wayyy up the level I'm expecting to pay for such kit.
As current economic situation in the world is waht it is, prices of every pc component are going up atm.

Considering how rare this kit is and the price is not likely going to fall THAT much, I'm thinking of getting this kit ready for my build. I really want this ram particularly because its price/performance is exceptional and I have good experiences with other A-DATA rams.

the kit is

A-DATA 6GB Tri-Channel kit, DDR3 1600MHz (PC3-12800) Gaming Experience

https://oc.adata.com.tw/images/p_g-series.jpg

price is 219€

there are only 15 kits coming to Finland soon. 5 are reserved already. It looks like there won't be more for really long time, if ever. at least not at this price as other 6gb kits are going >250€ price.

so, get or not?

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2008-11-29 05:51:51

#2

max: Vela Incident; +1,652|6833|NYC / Hamburg

The people on OCF find that you'll get a better OC with 2 sticks. The performance decrease from tripple to dual channel is negligible.

I haven't verified that claim in any way though, so take it with a grain of salt

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2008-11-29 05:54:16

#3

GC_PaNzerFIN: Work and study @ Technical Uni; +528|6680|Finland

max wrote:
The people on OCF find that you'll get a better OC with 2 sticks. The performance decrease from tripple to dual channel is negligible.

I haven't verified that claim in any way though, so take it with a grain of salt

In two Core i7 OC tests I have read, the TDP was the limiting factor of OC. They all had 3 1600mhz sticks. So I dount that will be a problem for me as I'm not going to touch LN2, lol.

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2008-11-29 05:56:22

#4

max: Vela Incident; +1,652|6833|NYC / Hamburg

AFAIK you'll need less Vcore with 2 sticks. Lower voltage = less heat = more OC headroom, no?

Last edited by max (2008-11-29 06:01:55)

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2008-11-29 05:58:36

#5

GC_PaNzerFIN: Work and study @ Technical Uni; +528|6680|Finland

max wrote:
AFAIK you'll need less Vcore with 3 sticks. Lower voltage = less heat = more OC headroom, no?

the extra voltage needed for 3 sticks is not much at all. and I'm NOT going to sacrifice 1/3 of ram bandwidth on the altar of extra 50mhz OC.

EDIT: wait.. less vcore with 3 sticks... I'm getting 3 sticks.

Last edited by GC_PaNzerFIN (2008-11-29 06:00:30)

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2008-11-29 06:03:03

#6

max: Vela Incident; +1,652|6833|NYC / Hamburg

no, it's a typo. The extra ram bandwidth does pretty much nothing for performance. I'd rather have more OC headroom than pointless epenis

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2008-11-29 06:05:32

#7

GC_PaNzerFIN: Work and study @ Technical Uni; +528|6680|Finland

max wrote:
no, it's a typo. The extra ram bandwidth does pretty much nothing for performance. I'd rather have more OC headroom than pointless epenis

Even tho it is like 50mhz? and the 4GB sticks are priced like the FAIL atm compared to that 6gb kit.

edit: thinking of Noctua NH-U12P SE1366 as cooler.

Last edited by GC_PaNzerFIN (2008-11-29 06:07:17)

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2008-11-29 06:22:08

#8

phishman420: Banned; +821|5947

Don't know much on the subject, but this may help.

2008-11-29 06:32:39

#9

GC_PaNzerFIN: Work and study @ Technical Uni; +528|6680|Finland

phishman420 wrote:
Don't know much on the subject, but this may help.

looks like 6gb is MUCH better choise than 3GB. just like I expected.

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2008-11-29 06:33:58

#10

max: Vela Incident; +1,652|6833|NYC / Hamburg

Take a look at this thread. Sometimes tri-channel wins slightly, at other times dual does. And then there's the problem that not all speed/timing/# channel combinations are possible.

That cooler seems to be a good choice

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2008-11-29 06:42:19

#11

GC_PaNzerFIN: Work and study @ Technical Uni; +528|6680|Finland

max wrote:
Take a look at this thread. Sometimes tri-channel wins slightly, at other times dual does. And then there's the problem that not all speed/timing/# channel combinations are possible.

That cooler seems to be a good choice

I doubt a slightly easier latency affects gaming speed more than <1% as overclock from 3.2 to 3.6 results in around 5% increase in gaming performance. Tri-channel seemed to beat dual by 2% in games so even with slightly easier timings it would be ok.

worth noting it is pretty much impossible to have 6GB on dual channel.

Last edited by GC_PaNzerFIN (2008-11-29 06:45:34)

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2008-11-29 07:15:18

#12

twoblacklines: all grown up now (its boring); +49|6473

I think buying ram for a cpu you dont have is a bit of a waste, because if you buy i7 in say 6 months, memory timings will be alot tighter than they are now. Hence quicker.

2008-11-29 07:35:10

#13

GC_PaNzerFIN: Work and study @ Technical Uni; +528|6680|Finland

twoblacklines wrote:
I think buying ram for a cpu you dont have is a bit of a waste, because if you buy i7 in say 6 months, memory timings will be alot tighter than they are now. Hence quicker.

if I buy this ram now. I will buy the cooler with it. and get the i7 when I find a motherboard I like. (<3 months)

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2008-11-29 10:21:38

#14

CrazeD: Member; +368|6939|Maine

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
worth noting it is pretty much impossible to have 6GB on dual channel.

2x2GB + 2x1GB.

2008-11-29 10:33:43

#15

GC_PaNzerFIN: Work and study @ Technical Uni; +528|6680|Finland

CrazeD wrote:
GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
worth noting it is pretty much impossible to have 6GB on dual channel.
2x2GB + 2x1GB.

well... That is not an option for me as I will need identical sticks to make sure they OC best.

so does anyone have opinions/experience about that kit or do I go blind and see myself?

edit: I did some calculations what I can afford and I bring this build forward, lets say <2 months for most components. I'm waiting a bit to see if I can get a Foxconn Blood Rage X58 or do I have to stick with Asus boards.

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2008-11-29 13:47:59

#16

twoblacklines: all grown up now (its boring); +49|6473

in 3 months all prices will be around 30% less, meaning that your shy of 10% of the average cost which would pay for all your ram.

Seriously save up and spend in one big go!

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