Uzique
dasein.
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I have reason to suspect my main rig / the hard-drive is dead

Sometime in between the car-trip home from Uni for Xmas and setting the system back up at home, the computer has become kaputt. When trying to start-up Windows gives me the 'Windows has failed to start, this could be because of recent hardware/software changes...' blah blah error message, and will not even start in Safe Mode (it cycles through about half the essential system drivers and then stops). It asks for the Vista disc/recovery disc but alas, one did not foresee this disaster over the Xmas holiday and left all my driver and installation discs in my Uni room .

I'm currently torrenting an image of the x64 Vista Recovery disc but I have little faith. I'm quite sure some hardware or hard-drive has failed, which equally sucks because I've just lost about 25Gb of media that I was too lazy to recently back up! Argh! I was actually concerned on the way home that the repeated small-shaking and bumps of the journey would affect the hard-drive, but really I'm a blank right now- Windows error messages are so vague and uninformative! The computer has been idle for a day in a pretty cold room, but I can't imagine anything as minor as that would total some hardware / a hard-drive.

Anyone else here had this message previously? Is the Recovery disc literally a messiah of hope? Or am I more reasonable in thinking that the circumstances (i.e. the journey home and transporting of my system) are the main cause in killing xy hardware? Dammit, liiiive! This is not what I need over the Xmas season, poop.
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KEN-JENNINGS
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I had basically that same error message from Windows XP and using the recovery console worked wonders.  Turned out it was a bad driver causing the error message.
.Sup
be nice
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KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

I had basically that same error message from Windows XP and using the recovery console worked wonders.  Turned out it was a bad driver causing the error message.
And thats what it probably is.
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Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6736

.Sup wrote:

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

I had basically that same error message from Windows XP and using the recovery console worked wonders.  Turned out it was a bad driver causing the error message.
And thats what it probably is.
Perhaps so, I hope!

I'm just overly concerned because the thought DID occur to me on the way home that the bumpy ride may be affecting the hard-drive, I've had terrible luck in the past with SATA drives dying over pathetic amounts of physical abuse (one of my SATA's died when the external enclosure it was in fell over onto its side, like seriously) so the shaking and rumbling was a concern,- couldn't get any protective layering at Uni!

The first time I started the system up, it booted into Windows and then on the desktop gave me a 'Windows has finished installing new devices' message. I have no 'new devices' as such but I was just assuming it was 'installing' the external hard-drives that I had connected via FireWire and their onboard device drivers. It then blue-screened with an error that I didn't get time to note, and ever since then the boot-up error has occurred. Puts me in two minds: Either the hard-drive really was damaged by the journey and crashed in operation, or this mysterious 'new device' that Windows installed has caused a major conflict. If the hard-drive is fine though, why won't Windows start in Safe mode? It fails to even load through the Windows driver lists for Safe Mode... so it's either a hardware failure or the device driver installed was one rooted really deep in the system files.

Thanks for any/all help.
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KEN-JENNINGS
I am all that is MOD!
+2,979|6897|949

Uzique wrote:

If the hard-drive is fine though, why won't Windows start in Safe mode? It fails to even load through the Windows driver lists for Safe Mode... so it's either a hardware failure or the device driver installed was one rooted really deep in the system files.

Thanks for any/all help.
That's what happened with mine - couldn't start in safe mode (doing exactly what you described above), and the first few times I booted from CD it froze too.  I don't know much about computers so I just kept trying to boot from CD and recover until it worked.
Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6736
Will give it a try, having to torrent and burn some ISO's because I literally left any CD's at my second home... fucking unfortunate

Thanks for the help, I certainly hope things work out :>
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.Sup
be nice
+2,646|6719|The Twilight Zone
Maybe just a cable not hooked to the HDD firmly. To calm you down, even if the HDD is broken theres still a 95% chance you will be able to salvage your data.
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Uzique
dasein.
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.Sup wrote:

Maybe just a cable not hooked to the HDD firmly. To calm you down, even if the HDD is broken theres still a 95% chance you will be able to salvage your data.
Thanks, looking into some good recovery programs now just in case I have to resort to that hardware failure scenario.

Surely Windows would not have booted up and installed new device drivers in the first place if the HDD is not connected properly?
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.Sup
be nice
+2,646|6719|The Twilight Zone

Uzique wrote:

.Sup wrote:

Maybe just a cable not hooked to the HDD firmly. To calm you down, even if the HDD is broken theres still a 95% chance you will be able to salvage your data.
Thanks, looking into some good recovery programs now just in case I have to resort to that hardware failure scenario.

Surely Windows would not have booted up and installed new device drivers in the first place if the HDD is not connected properly?
Surely.
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ceslayer23
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reformatting helps everything
Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6736

ceslayer23 wrote:

reformatting helps everything
Quite clearly not when a) I do not want to lose the data that I have not as-of-yet backed up to external HD and b) the reason I cannot ascertain whether the fault lies in Windows software or hardware failure is because I don't have any system installation discs with me at home.

Reading helps everything .
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