Xbox 360 and 30" Apple HD Cinema Display

2008-12-21 02:48:05

#1

aerodynamic: FOCKING HELL; +241|6019|Roma

So i bought this Xbox 360 HD VGA (Male) + audio AV thing, so htat i can connect it to my 30" display.
But i forgot, My 30" display has only a cable with a DVI-D male and thats it, no where to plug a VGA.
So is there something that goes in between them that i can buy?

Also if there isn't any, I can connect it to my Graphic Card which has two DVI Females, which i can use a VGA to DVI male converter, but then? How do i display it to my monitor?

this is the HD VGA AV thing
http://www.xbox.com/en-US/hardware/x/xbox360vgahdcable/

Last edited by aerodynamic (2008-12-21 02:55:16)

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2008-12-21 02:49:48

#2

Cheez: Herman is a warmaphrodite; +1,027|6704|King Of The Islands

The thingy that comes with your videocard? Or do you need the reverse?

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Last edited by Cheez (2008-12-21 02:50:05)

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2008-12-21 02:51:52

#3

aerodynamic: FOCKING HELL; +241|6019|Roma

I have idea how this works, my brain is exploding due to the amount of technological words.

2008-12-21 02:53:05

#4

.Sup: be nice; +2,646|6719|The Twilight Zone

I think VGA to DVI is a problem. It can only go he other way around.

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2008-12-21 02:56:32

#5

aerodynamic: FOCKING HELL; +241|6019|Roma

why can't microsoft do a direct Xbox360 to DVI cable ffs.

2008-12-21 02:58:45

#6

.Sup: be nice; +2,646|6719|The Twilight Zone

aerodynamic wrote:
why can't microsoft do a direct Xbox360 to DVI cable ffs.

A solution would be buying a xbox to HDMI cable and then getting a converter from HDMI to DVI

2008-12-21 03:04:32

#7

aerodynamic: FOCKING HELL; +241|6019|Roma

I could do that .
Or, what if i buy a Dvi female to DVI female coupler, so i goes Xbox360>VGAm > VGAf > DVIm> DVIf > DVIf> DVIm> display ?

2008-12-21 03:08:19

#8

.Sup: be nice; +2,646|6719|The Twilight Zone

aerodynamic wrote:
I could do that .
Or, what if i buy a Dvi female to DVI female coupler, so i goes Xbox360>VGAm > VGAf > DVIm> DVIf > DVIf> DVIm> display ?

Its possible but I personally prefer as less adapters as possible. They can downgrade video signal.

2008-12-21 03:28:23

#9

aerodynamic: FOCKING HELL; +241|6019|Roma

Alright gotta do some shopping again then.
thanks.

2008-12-21 04:21:46

#10

Bertster7: Confused Pothead; +1,101|6847|SE London

You do know it needs to be dual link DVI for that display, right?

DVI-D != Dual link DVI.

The cinema display is crap at scaling and the X-Box cannot output at its native resolution, also I doubt it outputs more than single link HDMI, which would not be sufficient.

It might work. But I wouldn't hold your breath.

2008-12-21 04:42:35

#11

Freezer7Pro: I don't come here a lot anymore.; +1,447|6462|Winland

aerodynamic wrote:
I could do that .
Or, what if i buy a Dvi female to DVI female coupler, so i goes Xbox360>VGAm > VGAf > DVIm> DVIf > DVIf> DVIm> display ?

That wouldn't work, and it would deliver shit picture. Your screen is 100% digital, so the only way to go is to find an Xbox-HDMI cable and then a HDMI-DVI cable, unless your screen has HDMI.

Or perhaps a Xbox-DVI cable if they exist.

The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP

2008-12-21 05:14:41

#12

Bertster7: Confused Pothead; +1,101|6847|SE London

Freezer7Pro wrote:
aerodynamic wrote:
I could do that .
Or, what if i buy a Dvi female to DVI female coupler, so i goes Xbox360>VGAm > VGAf > DVIm> DVIf > DVIf> DVIm> display ?
That wouldn't work, and it would deliver shit picture. Your screen is 100% digital, so the only way to go is to find an Xbox-HDMI cable and then a HDMI-DVI cable, unless your screen has HDMI.

Or perhaps a Xbox-DVI cable if they exist.

He has to remember it needs to be dual link DVI too. The chances of him doing it successfully are slim....

2008-12-21 05:34:28

#13

max: Vela Incident; +1,652|6833|NYC / Hamburg

Bertster7 wrote:
Freezer7Pro wrote:
aerodynamic wrote:
I could do that .
Or, what if i buy a Dvi female to DVI female coupler, so i goes Xbox360>VGAm > VGAf > DVIm> DVIf > DVIf> DVIm> display ?
That wouldn't work, and it would deliver shit picture. Your screen is 100% digital, so the only way to go is to find an Xbox-HDMI cable and then a HDMI-DVI cable, unless your screen has HDMI.

Or perhaps a Xbox-DVI cable if they exist.
He has to remember it needs to be dual link DVI too. The chances of him doing it successfully are slim....

I thought 1080p was doable over single link. Can the xbox360 even do 1080p or is it limited to 720p?

Does the monitor even support those resolutions?

If yes, I don't see why xbox -cable-> HDMI -converter-> DVI won't work

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2008-12-21 05:57:50

#14

kylef: Gone; +1,352|6758|N. Ireland

It can do 720p and 1080p/i as far as I'm aware.

Last edited by kylef (2008-12-21 05:58:05)

2008-12-22 12:01:02

#15

aerodynamic: FOCKING HELL; +241|6019|Roma

My display can go up to 2560 x 1600 resolution.
I think the xbox is restricted to 1080i, not sure tho.
and i read this today.

"My first plan was to just buy the Xbox VGA cable, hook it up to a Belkin VGA-to-DVI adapter and be done with it. I picked up the parts, brought them home, put 'em together and fired it up. No picture. At first I thought I might have a dead Xbox, but no – it turns out that the core and premium Xboxes both output analog signals, even over their HD cables. An Apple Cinema Display, however, requires a digital signal. So, even if you used the aforementioned VGA-to-DVI adapter, like I did, it doesn't work because it doesn't convert the signal from analog to digital."

So i guess no Hd pleasure on my 30"? ffs

2008-12-22 12:15:42

#16

Obiwan: Go Cards !!; +196|6960|The Ville

Take the cable to radio shack and tell them what you need. They might be able to fix or give you a proper connector. Save your receipt just in case it doesn't work.

2008-12-22 12:53:24

#17

aerodynamic: FOCKING HELL; +241|6019|Roma

i live in Italy, and no idea what radio shack is

2008-12-22 13:07:03

#18

ghettoperson: Member; +1,943|6914

Radio tettoia, apparently...

2008-12-22 13:46:48

#19

Bertster7: Confused Pothead; +1,101|6847|SE London

max wrote:
Bertster7 wrote:
Freezer7Pro wrote:
That wouldn't work, and it would deliver shit picture. Your screen is 100% digital, so the only way to go is to find an Xbox-HDMI cable and then a HDMI-DVI cable, unless your screen has HDMI.

Or perhaps a Xbox-DVI cable if they exist.
He has to remember it needs to be dual link DVI too. The chances of him doing it successfully are slim....
I thought 1080p was doable over single link. Can the xbox360 even do 1080p or is it limited to 720p?

Does the monitor even support those resolutions?

If yes, I don't see why xbox -cable-> HDMI -converter-> DVI won't work

1280x800 is the best he can get over single link. The scaling on those displays is poor too. Anything other than 2560 x 1600 looks a bit rubbish.

Last edited by Bertster7 (2008-12-22 13:48:22)

2008-12-22 13:50:54

#20

Jenspm: penis; +1,716|6997|St. Andrews / Oslo

aerodynamic wrote:
My display can go up to 2560 x 1600 resolution.
I think the xbox is restricted to 1080i, not sure tho.
and i read this today.

"My first plan was to just buy the Xbox VGA cable, hook it up to a Belkin VGA-to-DVI adapter and be done with it. I picked up the parts, brought them home, put 'em together and fired it up. No picture. At first I thought I might have a dead Xbox, but no – it turns out that the core and premium Xboxes both output analog signals, even over their HD cables. An Apple Cinema Display, however, requires a digital signal. So, even if you used the aforementioned VGA-to-DVI adapter, like I did, it doesn't work because it doesn't convert the signal from analog to digital."

So i guess no Hd pleasure on my 30"? ffs

sounds like no picture at all, like Bertster predicted.

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2008-12-22 13:51:12

#21

Bertster7: Confused Pothead; +1,101|6847|SE London

aerodynamic wrote:
My display can go up to 2560 x 1600 resolution.
I think the xbox is restricted to 1080i, not sure tho.
and i read this today.

"My first plan was to just buy the Xbox VGA cable, hook it up to a Belkin VGA-to-DVI adapter and be done with it. I picked up the parts, brought them home, put 'em together and fired it up. No picture. At first I thought I might have a dead Xbox, but no – it turns out that the core and premium Xboxes both output analog signals, even over their HD cables. An Apple Cinema Display, however, requires a digital signal. So, even if you used the aforementioned VGA-to-DVI adapter, like I did, it doesn't work because it doesn't convert the signal from analog to digital."

So i guess no Hd pleasure on my 30"? ffs

Even if you had an X-Box Elite and used an HDMI to DVI lead, then you would still only be able to get 1280x800 (720p, with a bit of letterboxing).

2008-12-22 15:47:50

#22

max: Vela Incident; +1,652|6833|NYC / Hamburg

Bertster7 wrote:
max wrote:
Bertster7 wrote:

He has to remember it needs to be dual link DVI too. The chances of him doing it successfully are slim....
I thought 1080p was doable over single link. Can the xbox360 even do 1080p or is it limited to 720p?

Does the monitor even support those resolutions?

If yes, I don't see why xbox -cable-> HDMI -converter-> DVI won't work
1280x800 is the best he can get over single link.

wiki wrote:
Example display modes (single link):

* HDTV (1920 × 1080) @ 60 Hz

how so?

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