Jimbo145
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+15|6534|Upstate Noo Yawk
My cousin is here for the holidays and his computer doesn't have a wireless card. I was wondering if you could have a setup of


modem wired> Router A wireless> Router B > wired Computer
CrazeD
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+368|6938|Maine
Yes.

You need to disable DHCP in the second router.
Jimbo145
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+15|6534|Upstate Noo Yawk

CrazeD wrote:

Yes.

You need to disable DHCP in the second router.
How would you go about doing this?
CrazeD
Member
+368|6938|Maine
Type http://192.168.0.1 or http://192.168.1.1 (usually) in your browser, login, and find the setting.
tkoi
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+148|6412|Texas
This is relevant to my interests.
Once I disable DHCP, how do I make router B connect to router A?
Jimbo145
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+15|6534|Upstate Noo Yawk
1st."You may not karma the same person in a 24 hour period."

2nd. Now that we have disabled it how do you connect the routers?

GGF0RCE wrote:

This is relevant to my interests.
Once I disable DHCP, how do I make router B connect to router A?

Last edited by Jimbo145 (2008-12-28 12:45:35)

CrazeD
Member
+368|6938|Maine
If you're lucky, it will be as easy as using a crossover cable to connect the two routers, and done. Make sure you don't use the WAN port on the second router, use a LAN or uplink (if it has one) port.

If you're not that lucky, it is out of my skillz.
JoshP
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+176|5954|Notts, UK

GGF0RCE wrote:

This is relevant to my interests.
Once I disable DHCP, how do I make router B connect to router A?
This is also relavent to my interests.

I also have a router connected to the internets, and currently connect wirelessly. I want to replace my USB wireless adapter on my PC with a router connected to the PC via ethernets

halp pl0x, and karmaz for people who give me a working solution

signa
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+50|6994|Michigan, USA
fwiw, I've never heard of anyone successfully connecting  router A wireless >router B > wired> computer.

I've never tried to do that, so I'm not sure if you even can.

I have however connected a 2nd wireless router to the first via crossover, and setup the 2nd router to broadcast another wireless ssid so that I had 2 wireless networks running, each with its own channel, ssid and password.
max
Vela Incident
+1,652|6832|NYC / Hamburg

Not all routers support bridging mode. Some need third party firmware for it to work. Google your router for more info
once upon a midnight dreary, while i pron surfed, weak and weary, over many a strange and spurious site of ' hot  xxx galore'. While i clicked my fav'rite bookmark, suddenly there came a warning, and my heart was filled with mourning, mourning for my dear amour, " 'Tis not possible!", i muttered, " give me back my free hardcore!"..... quoth the server, 404.
Scorpion0x17
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Jimbo145 wrote:

My cousin is here for the holidays and his computer doesn't have a wireless card. I was wondering if you could have a setup of


modem wired> Router A wireless> Router B > wired Computer
What router do you have?
CrazeD
Member
+368|6938|Maine
A router is basically a switch with a lot more complexity. If you turn off the "lot more complexity", you're back to a regular switch. At least, in so few words.
Scorpion0x17
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CrazeD wrote:

A router is basically a switch with a lot more complexity. If you turn off the "lot more complexity", you're back to a regular switch. At least, in so few words.
The switches I've seen (only ATM switches, mind) had a whole mountain more complexity then my Netgear Wireless Firewall Router has, tbh.
CrazeD
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+368|6938|Maine

Scorpion0x17 wrote:

CrazeD wrote:

A router is basically a switch with a lot more complexity. If you turn off the "lot more complexity", you're back to a regular switch. At least, in so few words.
The switches I've seen (only ATM switches, mind) had a whole mountain more complexity then my Netgear Wireless Firewall Router has, tbh.
Such as?

Switches are just a device to bridge connections. Routers are that, plus more. Switches can't accept internet connections, routers can.

Disable the settings on a router that makes it a router, and you have a switch.
mikkel
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+383|6866

CrazeD wrote:

Scorpion0x17 wrote:

CrazeD wrote:

A router is basically a switch with a lot more complexity. If you turn off the "lot more complexity", you're back to a regular switch. At least, in so few words.
The switches I've seen (only ATM switches, mind) had a whole mountain more complexity then my Netgear Wireless Firewall Router has, tbh.
Such as?

Switches are just a device to bridge connections. Routers are that, plus more. Switches can't accept internet connections, routers can.

Disable the settings on a router that makes it a router, and you have a switch.
What do you mean when you say that switches can't "accept internet connections"?
rh27
Not really a Brit
+51|6861|England

mikkel wrote:

What do you mean when you say that switches can't "accept internet connections"?
He's trying to say in a roundabout way that switches don't have built-in modems, which some routers do.

To the original poster, what you're asking about is a wireless bridge. Some routers have this setting by default, and it's as simple as going into the settings of the first router and setting the mode. Some however, do not have this feature by default and you're looking at trying to find some custom firmware that does have it.

For more specific help we need brands/models/specs.
mikkel
Member
+383|6866

rh27 wrote:

mikkel wrote:

What do you mean when you say that switches can't "accept internet connections"?
He's trying to say in a roundabout way that switches don't have built-in modems, which some routers do.
Heh, a network component without modulation and demodulation capabilities isn't much of a network component. =p
max
Vela Incident
+1,652|6832|NYC / Hamburg

I always thought a router connect 2 different networks (like WAN to LAN), while a switch works on only 1 network.

I'm a networking nub. I only know how to get shit to work and never really cared for the definitions
once upon a midnight dreary, while i pron surfed, weak and weary, over many a strange and spurious site of ' hot  xxx galore'. While i clicked my fav'rite bookmark, suddenly there came a warning, and my heart was filled with mourning, mourning for my dear amour, " 'Tis not possible!", i muttered, " give me back my free hardcore!"..... quoth the server, 404.
mikkel
Member
+383|6866

max wrote:

I always thought a router connect 2 different networks (like WAN to LAN), while a switch works on only 1 network.

I'm a networking nub. I only know how to get shit to work and never really cared for the definitions
A router routes packets on layer 3, the IP layer in IP networks, while a switch switches packets on layer 2, the MAC/LLC layer in 802.3 networks. The router keeps a table of routes to local and distant networks which are associated with interfaces on the router, so the router knows where to chuck packets to make sure they get to where they need to be. A switch builds a table of MAC addresses on the local network by listening for incoming traffic, and establishing relationships between MAC addresses and the interfaces these communicated from, so it knows where to chuck frames that are destined for these MAC addresses.

Last edited by mikkel (2008-12-30 12:45:28)

max
Vela Incident
+1,652|6832|NYC / Hamburg

I knew there was a nerdier way of saying it
once upon a midnight dreary, while i pron surfed, weak and weary, over many a strange and spurious site of ' hot  xxx galore'. While i clicked my fav'rite bookmark, suddenly there came a warning, and my heart was filled with mourning, mourning for my dear amour, " 'Tis not possible!", i muttered, " give me back my free hardcore!"..... quoth the server, 404.
Brasso
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sounds like Cisco.  :bleh:
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CrazeD
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+368|6938|Maine

mikkel wrote:

CrazeD wrote:

Scorpion0x17 wrote:


The switches I've seen (only ATM switches, mind) had a whole mountain more complexity then my Netgear Wireless Firewall Router has, tbh.
Such as?

Switches are just a device to bridge connections. Routers are that, plus more. Switches can't accept internet connections, routers can.

Disable the settings on a router that makes it a router, and you have a switch.
What do you mean when you say that switches can't "accept internet connections"?
Afaik, switches only deal with LAN>LAN whereas routers deal with WAN>LAN or LAN>LAN.

Correct me if I'm wrong.
mikkel
Member
+383|6866

CrazeD wrote:

mikkel wrote:

CrazeD wrote:

Such as?

Switches are just a device to bridge connections. Routers are that, plus more. Switches can't accept internet connections, routers can.

Disable the settings on a router that makes it a router, and you have a switch.
What do you mean when you say that switches can't "accept internet connections"?
Afaik, switches only deal with LAN>LAN whereas routers deal with WAN>LAN or LAN>LAN.

Correct me if I'm wrong.
Well, single layer switches can't by strict definition jump networks or routing domains, but there are a good number of ISPs out there that give you an 802.3u or 802.3ab port at the demarcation point that you can easily throw a plain old single layer switch at and have all the WAN connectivity you can suck down. Keeping it simple, switches aggregate and connect end nodes on a LAN, routers aggregate and connect LANs.

Last edited by mikkel (2008-12-30 13:02:49)

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