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rdx-fx wrote:

Sydney wrote:

Where the hell do I get a key? Do I need to buy some stupid subscription to get a key?....

No, MS delayed putting out the Keys - citing 'demand related infrastructure issues'.

I'll assume that someone will post a link in this thread, will keep vigilant

CrazeD wrote:

FloppY_ wrote:

JoshP wrote:

Yes there is. It BSOD'd every 2 hours or so for me, people tell my it's my "vista hating hardware" - but that same hardware works perfectly fine with a newer O/S - but if it was actually obsolete and vista was fine, then it should be just as bad. No. Vista is bad. It dies too much. XP and Windows 7 are good and don't crash/give compatibility errors/cry because you have old hardware.

tl;dr w7 > xp > vista

2nd'ed

I have yet to see a single, trouble-free Vista PC...

Mine.

If you're getting BSOD's, then a piece of hardware is not stable and/or drivers are wrong. Perhaps you installed it with an overclock?

My Vista is perfectly stable, no problems at all. In fact, some programs that are prone to freezing in XP lock up the whole system, whereas when those programs freeze in Vista it does not lock up the whole system. My Vista starts faster, looks better, and has nearly the same in-game performance. I will admit that XP gives me a little bit better performance in games, but the difference isn't that great. Maybe 10-20 FPS.

So, sorry, you're just doing it wrong.

or: you are one of the lucky ones?

I have never gotten a BSOD on vista.. but plenty of other stuff is a pain in the arse... like random drops of internet connection (wired aswell as wireless) where the only solution is a hard reboot...

settings that are a bitch to find because microsoft desided to dumb everything down -.-

UAC is a pain too, but doesn't count since it can be disabled...

and Vista is a bitch when it comes to connecting to wireless Accesspoints... 50/50 chance of your vistaPC beeing able to connect with WPA2

FloppY_ wrote:

CrazeD wrote:

FloppY_ wrote:

2nd'ed

I have yet to see a single, trouble-free Vista PC...

Mine.

If you're getting BSOD's, then a piece of hardware is not stable and/or drivers are wrong. Perhaps you installed it with an overclock?

My Vista is perfectly stable, no problems at all. In fact, some programs that are prone to freezing in XP lock up the whole system, whereas when those programs freeze in Vista it does not lock up the whole system. My Vista starts faster, looks better, and has nearly the same in-game performance. I will admit that XP gives me a little bit better performance in games, but the difference isn't that great. Maybe 10-20 FPS.

So, sorry, you're just doing it wrong.

or: you are one of the lucky ones?

I have never gotten a BSOD on vista.. but plenty of other stuff is a pain in the arse... like random drops of internet connection (wired aswell as wireless) where the only solution is a hard reboot...

settings that are a bitch to find because microsoft desided to dumb everything down -.-

UAC is a pain too, but doesn't count since it can be disabled...

and Vista is a bitch when it comes to connecting to wireless Accesspoints... 50/50 chance of your vistaPC beeing able to connect with WPA2

I used to have BSODs, random bugs, etc, etc, etc. Got another copy of it from another source and haven't had a single problem since.

FloppY_ wrote:

CrazeD wrote:

FloppY_ wrote:

2nd'ed

I have yet to see a single, trouble-free Vista PC...

Mine.

If you're getting BSOD's, then a piece of hardware is not stable and/or drivers are wrong. Perhaps you installed it with an overclock?

My Vista is perfectly stable, no problems at all. In fact, some programs that are prone to freezing in XP lock up the whole system, whereas when those programs freeze in Vista it does not lock up the whole system. My Vista starts faster, looks better, and has nearly the same in-game performance. I will admit that XP gives me a little bit better performance in games, but the difference isn't that great. Maybe 10-20 FPS.

So, sorry, you're just doing it wrong.

or: you are one of the lucky ones?

I have never gotten a BSOD on vista.. but plenty of other stuff is a pain in the arse... like random drops of internet connection (wired aswell as wireless) where the only solution is a hard reboot...

settings that are a bitch to find because microsoft desided to dumb everything down -.-

UAC is a pain too, but doesn't count since it can be disabled...

and Vista is a bitch when it comes to connecting to wireless Accesspoints... 50/50 chance of your vistaPC beeing able to connect with WPA2

I don't have any problem with internet connectivity.

What settings are you talking about? Everything is the same as XP, except the networking configuration is a little different (which I'll agree, that is a bit annoying).

UAC shouldn't even be mentioned, especially if you use Linux. It takes 5 seconds to turn it off and then it is never a problem again. Quit bitching about it.

I don't have wireless so I can't comment there.

CrazeD wrote:

FloppY_ wrote:

JoshP wrote:

Yes there is. It BSOD'd every 2 hours or so for me, people tell my it's my "vista hating hardware" - but that same hardware works perfectly fine with a newer O/S - but if it was actually obsolete and vista was fine, then it should be just as bad. No. Vista is bad. It dies too much. XP and Windows 7 are good and don't crash/give compatibility errors/cry because you have old hardware.

tl;dr w7 > xp > vista

2nd'ed

I have yet to see a single, trouble-free Vista PC...

Mine.

If you're getting BSOD's, then a piece of hardware is not stable and/or drivers are wrong. Perhaps you installed it with an overclock?

My Vista is perfectly stable, no problems at all. In fact, some programs that are prone to freezing in XP lock up the whole system, whereas when those programs freeze in Vista it does not lock up the whole system. My Vista starts faster, looks better, and has nearly the same in-game performance. I will admit that XP gives me a little bit better performance in games, but the difference isn't that great. Maybe 10-20 FPS.

So, sorry, you're just doing it wrong.

Didn't install it with an overclock...
Hardware is clearly stable as it works perfectly on Windows XP (old) and Windows 7 (new)
Drivers, well, i would imagine at this point, drivers are identical for W7 and Vista, and probably the same as XP for my aging hardware. So if Windows XP and 7 both work perfectly, why can't Vista cope? (excluding the obvious reason, that vista is shite)

CrazeD wrote:

In fact, some programs that are prone to freezing in XP lock up the whole system, whereas when those programs freeze in Vista it does not lock up the whole system.

Change XP to Vista and vice versa, and you have my situation
Except, few things freeze in XP, and those that do are quickly killed with taskkill /im <processname.exe> /f /t , so I hardly notice it.

Games? Bleh, never really bothered installing games on Vista (it was meant to be a "work" install ), so I can't comment there. Then again, when you're getting 30FPS normally due to shit hardware, losing 10-20 due to Vista would be kinda raep

@ Floppy, never had any of those problems you've described Apart from Wireless being a bit more buggy, and it sometimes gets confused after a d/c and refuses to reconnect.

@ Sydney, both my XP and Vista are both "legal" (downloaded from MSDN (the student one), ignore the fact that I wasn't eligible )

When I get a 500GB/1TB HDD for my Downloads/Music etc, i'll make loads of partitions on this one, XP, W7, Fedora, and maybe even OSX for lolz

Still no keys up...

Naturn wrote:

Both my nForce drivers and my nVidia drivers installed 100% without issues.  However drivers for my xfi card are no existent.

Pfft, creative
amirite?

I pirated Build 7000 and it didn't even need a key

They'll probably release the keys early in the morning for us eurofags, so the only ones who get the beta are americans and those few eurofags who pull an all nighter. (Assuming 2.5 million will be registered in one night)

JoshP wrote:

CrazeD wrote:

There's nothing wrong with Vista.

Yes there is. It BSOD'd every 2 hours or so for me, people tell my it's my "vista hating hardware" - but that same hardware works perfectly fine with a newer O/S

Ya don't say.

JoshP wrote:

CrazeD wrote:

FloppY_ wrote:

2nd'ed

I have yet to see a single, trouble-free Vista PC...

Mine.

If you're getting BSOD's, then a piece of hardware is not stable and/or drivers are wrong. Perhaps you installed it with an overclock?

My Vista is perfectly stable, no problems at all. In fact, some programs that are prone to freezing in XP lock up the whole system, whereas when those programs freeze in Vista it does not lock up the whole system. My Vista starts faster, looks better, and has nearly the same in-game performance. I will admit that XP gives me a little bit better performance in games, but the difference isn't that great. Maybe 10-20 FPS.

So, sorry, you're just doing it wrong.

Didn't install it with an overclock...
Hardware is clearly stable as it works perfectly on Windows XP (old) and Windows 7 (new)
Drivers, well, i would imagine at this point, drivers are identical for W7 and Vista, and probably the same as XP for my aging hardware. So if Windows XP and 7 both work perfectly, why can't Vista cope? (excluding the obvious reason, that vista is shite)

CrazeD wrote:

In fact, some programs that are prone to freezing in XP lock up the whole system, whereas when those programs freeze in Vista it does not lock up the whole system.

Change XP to Vista and vice versa, and you have my situation
Except, few things freeze in XP, and those that do are quickly killed with taskkill /im <processname.exe> /f /t , so I hardly notice it.

Games? Bleh, never really bothered installing games on Vista (it was meant to be a "work" install ), so I can't comment there. Then again, when you're getting 30FPS normally due to shit hardware, losing 10-20 due to Vista would be kinda raep

@ Floppy, never had any of those problems you've described Apart from Wireless being a bit more buggy, and it sometimes gets confused after a d/c and refuses to reconnect.

@ Sydney, both my XP and Vista are both "legal" (downloaded from MSDN (the student one), ignore the fact that I wasn't eligible )

When I get a 500GB/1TB HDD for my Downloads/Music etc, i'll make loads of partitions on this one, XP, W7, Fedora, and maybe even OSX for lolz

I think I find your problem: Aging and shit hardware.

Also remember that drivers are very different from XP to Vista, because they don't share the same kernal. Drivers that are 100% stable in XP may very well be shit in Vista. You cannot blame Vista for this fact, as that has nothing to do with Vista and everything to do with whoever makes your drivers.

Did you happen to get a key?  Cause if you didn't that could be why.  I have not received mine yet.

When the fuck are they going to stop making 32bit OS's?! They may as well make a 16bit one as well.