Tarique stop being a cunt.Uzique wrote:
Lol at trying to interpret and seriously recognise Rise Against's pseudo-political lyrics in a deep and thoughtful manner.
I find more meaningful political sentiment in Greeday's American Idiot, just whilst we're on the topic of teenage-manufactured-bullshit-with-pseudo-intelligent-lyrics.
Couldn't agree anymore.Uzique wrote:
Lol at trying to interpret and seriously recognise Rise Against's pseudo-political lyrics in a deep and thoughtful manner.
I find more meaningful political sentiment in Greeday's American Idiot, just whilst we're on the topic of teenage-manufactured-bullshit-with-pseudo-intelligent-lyrics.
The lyrics are so hateful and broody, I find a really negative tone through their register and lexis... why the anti-troop sentiment? I need to further analyse their chorus patterns and prosodic scansion in order to better understand what they're reallllly trying to communicate...ghettoperson wrote:
Tarique stop being a cunt.Uzique wrote:
Lol at trying to interpret and seriously recognise Rise Against's pseudo-political lyrics in a deep and thoughtful manner.
I find more meaningful political sentiment in Greeday's American Idiot, just whilst we're on the topic of teenage-manufactured-bullshit-with-pseudo-intelligent-lyrics.
No one is trying to analyse them in a 'deep and thoughtful manner' thay seem to me to be pretty clear cut, and frankly came off as being quite offensive to soldiers.
god damn punk music-MetaL* wrote:
Couldn't agree anymore.Uzique wrote:
Lol at trying to interpret and seriously recognise Rise Against's pseudo-political lyrics in a deep and thoughtful manner.
I find more meaningful political sentiment in Greeday's American Idiot, just whilst we're on the topic of teenage-manufactured-bullshit-with-pseudo-intelligent-lyrics.
and I fucking hate pseudo punk music go listen to some real punk.
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Define. Just curious.-MetaL* wrote:
go listen to some real punk.
go listen to some black flag, op ivy, rancid etc.haffeysucks wrote:
god damn punk music-MetaL* wrote:
Couldn't agree anymore.Uzique wrote:
Lol at trying to interpret and seriously recognise Rise Against's pseudo-political lyrics in a deep and thoughtful manner.
I find more meaningful political sentiment in Greeday's American Idiot, just whilst we're on the topic of teenage-manufactured-bullshit-with-pseudo-intelligent-lyrics.
and I fucking hate pseudo punk music go listen to some real punk.
what is "real punk?" they're not even trying to be punk or "i hate the government i hate our nation i hate everything so ill scream about it more"
Probably some shit which anyone who's had a shower in the past 3 years hasn't heard of.phishman420 wrote:
Define. Just curious.-MetaL* wrote:
go listen to some real punk.
by your statement, Bob Dylan = failMiggle wrote:
music + politics = fail.
You don't think I listen to them for their meaningful lyrics do you? I just happen to like to listen to their music every so often, and when I heard that song it came off to me as being pretty offensive, so I though I would ask if anyone else agreed with me, since I've never met anyone that hated the troops, so it stuck me as weird that a "bunch of guys not quite intelligent enough to even construct a decent song-structure with proper instrumentation, let alone a meaningful discourse on politics or war" would.Uzique wrote:
The lyrics are so hateful and broody, I find a really negative tone through their register and lexis... why the anti-troop sentiment? I need to further analyse their chorus patterns and prosodic scansion in order to better understand what they're reallllly trying to communicate...ghettoperson wrote:
Tarique stop being a cunt.Uzique wrote:
Lol at trying to interpret and seriously recognise Rise Against's pseudo-political lyrics in a deep and thoughtful manner.
I find more meaningful political sentiment in Greeday's American Idiot, just whilst we're on the topic of teenage-manufactured-bullshit-with-pseudo-intelligent-lyrics.
No one is trying to analyse them in a 'deep and thoughtful manner' thay seem to me to be pretty clear cut, and frankly came off as being quite offensive to soldiers.
... Or I could just pass it off as recycled teen-angst shite that has been peddled by "punk" mainstream record labels for the past 5 years, 'writing' songs based on the exact same messages and motifs with the same pseudo-fake political bullshit- from a bunch of guys not quite intelligent enough to even construct a decent song-structure with proper instrumentation, let alone a meaningful discourse on politics or war.
I don't care about how "real" a band someone is. The contents of their lyrics are completely different to their overall image and 'purpose' as artists. In this case I think Rise Against (target audience: angsty teenager with early feelings of rebellion and sweet bitter injustice) are pandering to their audience with pseudo-intellectual pseudo-political pseudo-meaningful bullshit that the 13 year old Hot Topic shopping teens of America will listen to and go "FUCK YEAH! This song has a meaning! A real, deep, driven meaning! And they set to an awesome hardcore-punk-radical soundtrack of 3-chord simplicity and recycled repetitive song structures! Awesome! Totally worth my dad's 20 bucks!". I'm not sure a politics major would see the same worth or seriousness in their lyrics. It's ostentatious contrived bullshit. Oh look, a war is going on... it's our responsibility as artists that are 'against the man' to write an anti-war song; we truly are the folkhero Bob Dylan's of our time. Except this time we have no clue about the actual war, actual politics, actual music or actual instrumental skill. Instead we're just on the payslip of a fatcat media conglomerate and we're selling this meaningless trash to idiots too concerned with image and 'coolness' to actually realise our 'message' is as deep as the shallow corporate souls we exist in.haffeysucks wrote:
god damn punk music-MetaL* wrote:
Couldn't agree anymore.Uzique wrote:
Lol at trying to interpret and seriously recognise Rise Against's pseudo-political lyrics in a deep and thoughtful manner.
I find more meaningful political sentiment in Greeday's American Idiot, just whilst we're on the topic of teenage-manufactured-bullshit-with-pseudo-intelligent-lyrics.
and I fucking hate pseudo punk music go listen to some real punk.
what is "real punk?" they're not even trying to be punk or "i hate the government i hate our nation i hate everything so ill scream about it more"
edit: i give up. music will always be one of those things where you can try as hard as you want to change someone's opinion but it won't budge.
P.S. Uzique, could you soften your words up a little for me? i'm too low-class to know all of those long, complicated words. you might as well be throwing a thesaurus at my face. oh wait, you practically are.
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and?haffeysucks wrote:
by your statement, Bob Dylan = failMiggle wrote:
music + politics = fail.
Cmon Uzique, stop talking dirty, bitchUzique wrote:
I don't care about how "real" a band someone is. The contents of their lyrics are completely different to their overall image and 'purpose' as artists. In this case I think Rise Against (target audience: angsty teenager with early feelings of rebellion and sweet bitter injustice) are pandering to their audience with pseudo-intellectual pseudo-political pseudo-meaningful bullshit that the 13 year old Hot Topic shopping teens of America will listen to and go "FUCK YEAH! This song has a meaning! A real, deep, driven meaning! And they set to an awesome hardcore-punk-radical soundtrack of 3-chord simplicity and recycled repetitive song structures! Awesome! Totally worth my dad's 20 bucks!". I'm not sure a politics major would see the same worth or seriousness in their lyrics. It's ostentatious contrived bullshit. Oh look, a war is going on... it's our responsibility as artists that are 'against the man' to write an anti-war song; we truly are the folkhero Bob Dylan's of our time. Except this time we have no clue about the actual war, actual politics, actual music or actual instrumental skill. Instead we're just on the payslip of a fatcat media conglomerate and we're selling this meaningless trash to idiots too concerned with image and 'coolness' to actually realise our 'message' is as deep as the shallow corporate souls we exist in.haffeysucks wrote:
god damn punk music-MetaL* wrote:
Couldn't agree anymore.
and I fucking hate pseudo punk music go listen to some real punk.
what is "real punk?" they're not even trying to be punk or "i hate the government i hate our nation i hate everything so ill scream about it more"
edit: i give up. music will always be one of those things where you can try as hard as you want to change someone's opinion but it won't budge.
P.S. Uzique, could you soften your words up a little for me? i'm too low-class to know all of those long, complicated words. you might as well be throwing a thesaurus at my face. oh wait, you practically are.
I hope the eloquence wasn't too much for you there Haffey. If it was, I recommend initiative. Great buy.
Sorry but most good music isn't played on the radio you should know that if you have any idea of what actual music is.Toilet Sex wrote:
Probably some shit which anyone who's had a shower in the past 3 years hasn't heard of.phishman420 wrote:
Define. Just curious.-MetaL* wrote:
go listen to some real punk.
P.S. Miggle - Bob Dylan is widely regarded as one of the greatest songwriters of all time, and he's pretty much the most successful. fact.Uzique wrote:
Oh wait, you're not even witty, you're just openly conceding to being a dumb little cunt.
I don't care about how "real" a band someone is. The contents of their lyrics are completely different to their overall image and 'purpose' as artists. In this case I think Rise Against (target audience: angsty teenager with early feelings of rebellion and sweet bitter injustice) are pandering to their audience with pseudo-intellectual pseudo-political pseudo-meaningful bullshit that the 13 year old Hot Topic shopping teens of America will listen to and go "FUCK YEAH! This song has a meaning! A real, deep, driven meaning! And they set to an awesome hardcore-punk-radical soundtrack of 3-chord simplicity and recycled repetitive song structures! Awesome! Totally worth my dad's 20 bucks!". I'm not sure a politics major would see the same worth or seriousness in their lyrics. It's ostentatious contrived bullshit. Oh look, a war is going on... it's our responsibility as artists that are 'against the man' to write an anti-war song; we truly are the folkhero Bob Dylan's of our time. Except this time we have no clue about the actual war, actual politics, actual music or actual instrumental skill. Instead we're just on the payslip of a fatcat media conglomerate and we're selling this meaningless trash to idiots too concerned with image and 'coolness' to actually realise our 'message' is as deep as the shallow corporate souls we exist in.
I hope the eloquence wasn't too much for you there Haffey. If it was, I recommend initiative. Great buy.
I don't remember the last time I heard Sephiroth, Flesh Field or Reaper on the radio, Mr. Elitist.-MetaL* wrote:
Sorry but most good music isn't played on the radio you should know that if you have any idea of what actual music is.Toilet Sex wrote:
Probably some shit which anyone who's had a shower in the past 3 years hasn't heard of.phishman420 wrote:
Define. Just curious.
Uzique wrote:
Oh wait, you're not even witty, you're just openly conceding to being a dumb little cunt.haffeysucks wrote:
god damn punk music-MetaL* wrote:
Couldn't agree anymore.
and I fucking hate pseudo punk music go listen to some real punk.
what is "real punk?" they're not even trying to be punk or "i hate the government i hate our nation i hate everything so ill scream about it more"
edit: i give up. music will always be one of those things where you can try as hard as you want to change someone's opinion but it won't budge.
P.S. Uzique, could you soften your words up a little for me? i'm too low-class to know all of those long, complicated words. you might as well be throwing a thesaurus at my face. oh wait, you practically are.
I don't care about how "real" a band someone is. The contents of their lyrics are completely different to their overall image and 'purpose' as artists. In this case I think Rise Against (target audience: angsty teenager with early feelings of rebellion and sweet bitter injustice) are pandering to their audience with pseudo-intellectual pseudo-political pseudo-meaningful bullshit that the 13 year old Hot Topic shopping teens of America will listen to and go "FUCK YEAH! This song has a meaning! A real, deep, driven meaning! And they set to an awesome hardcore-punk-radical soundtrack of 3-chord simplicity and recycled repetitive song structures! Awesome! Totally worth my dad's 20 bucks!". I'm not sure a politics major would see the same worth or seriousness in their lyrics. It's ostentatious contrived bullshit. Oh look, a war is going on... it's our responsibility as artists that are 'against the man' to write an anti-war song; we truly are the folkhero Bob Dylan's of our time. Except this time we have no clue about the actual war, actual politics, actual music or actual instrumental skill. Instead we're just on the payslip of a fatcat media conglomerate and we're selling this meaningless trash to idiots too concerned with image and 'coolness' to actually realise our 'message' is as deep as the shallow corporate souls we exist in.
I hope the eloquence wasn't too much for you there Haffey. If it was, I recommend initiative. Great buy.
Written by Bach? Lol. Lol.