chikler
Member
+0|7098|Jimmyhat, Ontario
I never look at rank, I just work with whomevers is in my squad. Sometimes I get really good squad mates, other times I get people who are dinks. But oh well.

After all: http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2004/03/19  usually holds true
cheshiremoe
Evil Geniuses for a sparsely populated tomorrow
+50|7181
I think lower rank does matter because of the unlocks.   As I think all of the MEC base guns bite, going against a private is diffent than going against a first Sgt. because the later will be using a better gun.

Last edited by cheshiremoe (2006-03-17 08:21:50)

NoS
karma padder
+13|7098|UK
i'll let anyone fly with me regardless of rank, if they're shit they they can expect to be knifed if they try to get in again.
MoonShadow616
Doesn't read the Whole Thread
+16|7093|Japan
Rank means nothing, just because somones a Private or whatever, doesn't mean they are crap a the game, it just means they havn't played the game much, they might be an excelent sniper, but only play the game once or twice a week, thus resulting in a Low Rank. Plus, how do you know they don't have a 2nd account with a "First Sergeant" ranking. You don't, so give everyone a chance... unless you have evidence that they suck...


MS
Coolbeano
Level 13.5 BF2S Ninja Penguin Sensei
+378|7235

the_heart_attack wrote:

i actually never take notice of anyones rank ingame. never even thought to bother looking.
Is there anything you do pay attention to man? Seriously....


But anyway, yeah I keep to choppers/planes with my rank and above.
Hairy_Toe_Knuckles
Member
+0|7098|Memphis, TN
I am constantly seeing this thinking:

"I let someone play with me until I see they suck."

"If they suck, I will kill them next time they want to play with me."

"They are cool with me until they show that they have no skill."

Rinse. Repeat. Ad nauseum.

Whatever happened to people playing just for FUN?! Why must everyone have a level of skill to your liking for him or her to be deemed worthy of being in your magnificent presence?

Complete and total bullshit.

Some people, like me, could not possibly care less about Rank or stats. Gaming for me is a form of escapism—it always has been like this.

I never pay attention to another’s Rank, as it means nothing to me. You know who gets my attention in games? The person that laughs while playing whether he is winning or losing, killing or being killed. THAT is who I consider cool. THAT is whom I choose to play with while gaming.
NoS
karma padder
+13|7098|UK

Hairy_Toe_Knuckles wrote:

I am constantly seeing this thinking:

"I let someone play with me until I see they suck."

"If they suck, I will kill them next time they want to play with me."

"They are cool with me until they show that they have no skill."

Rinse. Repeat. Ad nauseum.

Whatever happened to people playing just for FUN?! Why must everyone have a level of skill to your liking for him or her to be deemed worthy of being in your magnificent presence?

Complete and total bullshit.

Some people, like me, could not possibly care less about Rank or stats. Gaming for me is a form of escapism—it always has been like this.

I never pay attention to another’s Rank, as it means nothing to me. You know who gets my attention in games? The person that laughs while playing whether he is winning or losing, killing or being killed. THAT is who I consider cool. THAT is whom I choose to play with while gaming.
the sucky people i'm talking about are the ones that burn out the guns before you've even left the carrier, they fire tv missiles aimlessly at nothing, shoot at team mates and bomb their own flags. i have no problems with letting a noob fly with me, they dont have to kill everything in sight but fucktards who do what i said ruin not just my game but everyone elses. ill knife the fuckin lot of em without thinking twice.
Hairy_Toe_Knuckles
Member
+0|7098|Memphis, TN

NoS wrote:

Hairy_Toe_Knuckles wrote:

I am constantly seeing this thinking:

"I let someone play with me until I see they suck."

"If they suck, I will kill them next time they want to play with me."

"They are cool with me until they show that they have no skill."

Rinse. Repeat. Ad nauseum.

Whatever happened to people playing just for FUN?! Why must everyone have a level of skill to your liking for him or her to be deemed worthy of being in your magnificent presence?

Complete and total bullshit.

Some people, like me, could not possibly care less about Rank or stats. Gaming for me is a form of escapism—it always has been like this.

I never pay attention to another’s Rank, as it means nothing to me. You know who gets my attention in games? The person that laughs while playing whether he is winning or losing, killing or being killed. THAT is who I consider cool. THAT is whom I choose to play with while gaming.
the sucky people i'm talking about are the ones that burn out the guns before you've even left the carrier, they fire tv missiles aimlessly at nothing, shoot at team mates and bomb their own flags. i have no problems with letting a noob fly with me, they dont have to kill everything in sight but fucktards who do what i said ruin not just my game but everyone elses. ill knife the fuckin lot of em without thinking twice.
Reading comprehension is a lost art.
NoS
karma padder
+13|7098|UK

Hairy_Toe_Knuckles wrote:

NoS wrote:

Hairy_Toe_Knuckles wrote:

I am constantly seeing this thinking:

"I let someone play with me until I see they suck."

"If they suck, I will kill them next time they want to play with me."

"They are cool with me until they show that they have no skill."

Rinse. Repeat. Ad nauseum.

Whatever happened to people playing just for FUN?! Why must everyone have a level of skill to your liking for him or her to be deemed worthy of being in your magnificent presence?

Complete and total bullshit.

Some people, like me, could not possibly care less about Rank or stats. Gaming for me is a form of escapism—it always has been like this.

I never pay attention to another’s Rank, as it means nothing to me. You know who gets my attention in games? The person that laughs while playing whether he is winning or losing, killing or being killed. THAT is who I consider cool. THAT is whom I choose to play with while gaming.
the sucky people i'm talking about are the ones that burn out the guns before you've even left the carrier, they fire tv missiles aimlessly at nothing, shoot at team mates and bomb their own flags. i have no problems with letting a noob fly with me, they dont have to kill everything in sight but fucktards who do what i said ruin not just my game but everyone elses. ill knife the fuckin lot of em without thinking twice.
Reading comprehension is a lost art.
and that's supposed to make sense, how exactly?
Hairy_Toe_Knuckles
Member
+0|7098|Memphis, TN

NoS wrote:

Hairy_Toe_Knuckles wrote:

NoS wrote:


the sucky people i'm talking about are the ones that burn out the guns before you've even left the carrier, they fire tv missiles aimlessly at nothing, shoot at team mates and bomb their own flags. i have no problems with letting a noob fly with me, they dont have to kill everything in sight but fucktards who do what i said ruin not just my game but everyone elses. ill knife the fuckin lot of em without thinking twice.
Reading comprehension is a lost art.
and that's supposed to make sense, how exactly?
Hehe The fact that you do not understand makes the irony too much to handle.
NoS
karma padder
+13|7098|UK

Hairy_Toe_Knuckles wrote:

NoS wrote:

Hairy_Toe_Knuckles wrote:


Reading comprehension is a lost art.
and that's supposed to make sense, how exactly?
Hehe The fact that you do not understand makes the irony too much to handle.
oh dear.
SoC-Medicine
Member
+-1|7088
Well take this this right way, Its only my first post :-)
I played a LOT of a different game, Joint Operations: Typhoon Rising/Escalation.
I made it to #4 overall in Escalation stats..   
I know a LOT of people who were in the top 50/100 there who were complete one-hit-wonders.  Players who couldnt for the life of them shoot an Assault Rifle..  People who had no clue as to how to medic, people who were only good when they had a tank or APC or nade-launcher jeep avaialable...  The community was a lot smaller then it is here in BF2 (maybe 5000-9000 players on a peak night back when it was a great game.) So you got to see the top "ranked" players quite a bit and could really judge the "talent" players from the "one weapon/class wonders".  (https://www.novaworld.com/Players/TopLists.aspx?p=   choose escalation from the drop down to see some of them.)

Based on that, I generally dont respect anyone based on thier "rank" in game alone...  There are a LOT of ways to get said ranks.  I wont say more, as I dont want to start anything.   

I got a late start on this game, I hated it when I tried it in June 2005, but i gave it another try in late January this year and fell in love.   
I hope you all take that like I mean it, and not like it sounds ;-)
Torin
Member
+52|7164

Hairy_Toe_Knuckles wrote:

NoS wrote:

Hairy_Toe_Knuckles wrote:


Reading comprehension is a lost art.
and that's supposed to make sense, how exactly?
Hehe The fact that you do not understand makes the irony too much to handle.
Let's be realistic, reading is not even remotely an art. It is a basic form of comprehension, that yes, sadly not many master.

And there is nothing ironic about him not understanding what you meant by saying reading comprehension is a lost art. Do you even know what irony is?
Hairy_Toe_Knuckles
Member
+0|7098|Memphis, TN

NoS wrote:

Hairy_Toe_Knuckles wrote:

NoS wrote:


and that's supposed to make sense, how exactly?
Hehe The fact that you do not understand makes the irony too much to handle.
oh dear.
Oh for crying out loud. Just let me hold your hand and explain then, as this is getting rather tedious.

What I meant was you totally missed out on the point of my post.

I was talking about playing for fun. I never mentioned idiots who do dumb things like TK and purposely ruin fun for others. No one wants to play with that sort of person.

I was talking about those who do indeed try and play at the best of their ability, but it isn't the end of the world to them if they do not do a "good job" according to other's standards.

My point to this thread is this:

Not everyone feels that they must perform to other's standards. Gaming is supposed to be fun. It is just a game. Ranks mean nothing to some people. And the fact that someone is at a high rank means absolutely nothing. ANYONE can attain a higher rank merely by putting in enough time into the game. Some do not feel it is necessary to enjoy the game, though. But, to those who feel the overwhelming need to be competitive and always win, there's nothing wrong with that either. To each his own.

Anyhow, this was just my little soapbox. Take it with a grain of salt, as it was meant. Just tired of seeing all these various threads with people talking about "noobs" (which is a dumb expression anyhow) and people they played with that have no skills. Just remember it is just a game and meant to be fun.
Hairy_Toe_Knuckles
Member
+0|7098|Memphis, TN

Torin wrote:

Hairy_Toe_Knuckles wrote:

NoS wrote:


and that's supposed to make sense, how exactly?
Hehe The fact that you do not understand makes the irony too much to handle.
Let's be realistic, reading is not even remotely an art. It is a basic form of comprehension, that yes, sadly not many master.

And there is nothing ironic about him not understanding what you meant by saying reading comprehension is a lost art. Do you even know what irony is?
I see it was lost on you, as well. Moreover, one could say that reading comprehension is indeed an art. Can you read and understand Shakespeare? Some can, some cannot. To those who can, it can be said it is an art to be able to do so. Subjective, yes, but could be regarded as such, nonetheless.

In addition, the irony of it all was I was talking about the mentality of some people in this game, and by his "knifing everyone" statement, he proved himself one of those people. THAT, my friend, is irony.

I am an English minor; please do not try to battle wits with me about irony and such.
Hairy_Toe_Knuckles
Member
+0|7098|Memphis, TN
To the OP, sorry for hi-jacking this thread. I did not know every little thing I said was going to be picked apart.
Digger1969
Member
+3|7209|Toronto, Canada

Jakethe8lf wrote:

I always congratulate players when they rank up. It's polite, and usually in higher ranks, you really need to work for it.
I do the same......
MajorHoulahan_MASH
Member
+31|7194

[CANADA]_Zenmaster wrote:

The funniest thing I heard in voice from a guy in my squad talking about an enemy player... "OMG that guys got an eagle above his head. Everyone run away!!" and he was serious. Later in the game, "that eagle dude is back I'm running!"
.


The Eagle has landed !
PunkX
stoned
+198|7096|Canada
ACTUALLY!

I think its the other way around!

Do people that are First Sergeant and Above have respect for those lower?

I had an experience with a douche on the Losers-server who was mouthing off, ajust as we were kicking him he said 'you wish you were my rank' like it was his life-long dream to be his rank and he owned everyone under him. Sad.
Mason4Assassin444
retired
+552|7134|USA
I respect common sense and that is about all. Rank says nothing...you must earn this respect.
Torin
Member
+52|7164

Hairy_Toe_Knuckles wrote:

Torin wrote:

Hairy_Toe_Knuckles wrote:


Hehe The fact that you do not understand makes the irony too much to handle.
Let's be realistic, reading is not even remotely an art. It is a basic form of comprehension, that yes, sadly not many master.

And there is nothing ironic about him not understanding what you meant by saying reading comprehension is a lost art. Do you even know what irony is?
I see it was lost on you, as well. Moreover, one could say that reading comprehension is indeed an art. Can you read and understand Shakespeare? Some can, some cannot. To those who can, it can be said it is an art to be able to do so. Subjective, yes, but could be regarded as such, nonetheless.

In addition, the irony of it all was I was talking about the mentality of some people in this game, and by his "knifing everyone" statement, he proved himself one of those people. THAT, my friend, is irony.

I am an English minor; please do not try to battle wits with me about irony and such.
Yes, I suppose that subjectively, it could be considered an art. So can picking my nose. And for the record, not that it matters much, there isn't much more to reading Shakespeare than an 8th grade science book. I'd say that reading Shakespeare is more an issue of vocabulary or an understanding of the dialect, as opposed to reading comprehension in general. I might add, that the term "reading comprehension" is extremely general, and subjectively could refer to any number of things, including but not limited to: grammar, vocabulary, dialect, style, etc. Anyhow.

So, your reference to irony then had nothing to do with the fact that he did not get what you were saying? So, like I said, it wasn't irony after all.

In reference to your "correction" on what you thought was ironic, even his statement was not ironic, he merely disagrees with your take that the elitist attitude people have s bullshit. His statement about knifing people has no irony in it at all, even given that it was a response to your statement.

English minor, how impressive. Ask one of your teachers about irony, because it's apparent you don't have a firm grasp on it. I love how people try to rattle off some form of qualification in an attempt to "win" an argument, on the Internet of all places. Battle wits, that's rich.

An example of irony would be a blind man stuck in the wilderness for weeks with his seeing eye dog, and killing/eating his dog to stay alive, only to end up dying because he couldn't find his way back to civilization without the dog.  What are you, a first year college student? You act as though mere enrollment in a school system is enough to make you master of the english language, when it's apparently only enough to make you look foolish.

Anyhow, enough OT for me. Sorry for the rant, I just hate how people try to lecture others about their grasp of the english language, when they have no real grasp of it themselves.  That is irony, I believe it is called socratic irony.
Hairy_Toe_Knuckles
Member
+0|7098|Memphis, TN

Torin wrote:

Hairy_Toe_Knuckles wrote:

Torin wrote:


Let's be realistic, reading is not even remotely an art. It is a basic form of comprehension, that yes, sadly not many master.

And there is nothing ironic about him not understanding what you meant by saying reading comprehension is a lost art. Do you even know what irony is?
I see it was lost on you, as well. Moreover, one could say that reading comprehension is indeed an art. Can you read and understand Shakespeare? Some can, some cannot. To those who can, it can be said it is an art to be able to do so. Subjective, yes, but could be regarded as such, nonetheless.

In addition, the irony of it all was I was talking about the mentality of some people in this game, and by his "knifing everyone" statement, he proved himself one of those people. THAT, my friend, is irony.

I am an English minor; please do not try to battle wits with me about irony and such.
Yes, I suppose that subjectively, it could be considered an art. So can picking my nose. And for the record, not that it matters much, there isn't much more to reading Shakespeare than an 8th grade science book. I'd say that reading Shakespeare is more an issue of vocabulary or an understanding of the dialect, as opposed to reading comprehension in general. I might add, that the term "reading comprehension" is extremely general, and subjectively could refer to any number of things, including but not limited to: grammar, vocabulary, dialect, style, etc. Anyhow.

So, your reference to irony then had nothing to do with the fact that he did not get what you were saying? So, like I said, it wasn't irony after all.

In reference to your "correction" on what you thought was ironic, even his statement was not ironic, he merely disagrees with your take that the elitist attitude people have s bullshit. His statement about knifing people has no irony in it at all, even given that it was a response to your statement.

English minor, how impressive. Ask one of your teachers about irony, because it's apparent you don't have a firm grasp on it. I love how people try to rattle off some form of qualification in an attempt to "win" an argument, on the Internet of all places. Battle wits, that's rich.

An example of irony would be a blind man stuck in the wilderness for weeks with his seeing eye dog, and killing/eating his dog to stay alive, only to end up dying because he couldn't find his way back to civilization without the dog.  What are you, a first year college student? You act as though mere enrollment in a school system is enough to make you master of the english language, when it's apparently only enough to make you look foolish.

Anyhow, enough OT for me. Sorry for the rant, I just hate how people try to lecture others about their grasp of the english language, when they have no real grasp of it themselves.  That is irony, I believe it is called socratic irony.
Once again, it is not my fault if YOU do not understand how it was ironic. lol "Socratic irony." Enjoy dictionary.com much?

I am not going to continue this OT charade with you.
Torin
Member
+52|7164

Hairy_Toe_Knuckles wrote:

Once again, it is not my fault if YOU do not understand how it was ironic. lol "Socratic irony." Enjoy dictionary.com much?

I am not going to continue this OT charade with you.
Not a matter of me not understanding, it's a matter of it not being ironic. Please, use that pending english minor and explain how it was ironic. Merely saying it is ironic is not good enough, unless you're trying to fool someone into thinking you know what you're talking about, when they have no basis to form a conclusion of their own.

I'm so sorry if I actually recall what little there was to learn when I was in school, especially something that can be considered trivia like "socratic irony". It was merely a reference for you if you wanted to understand why it was ironic. Apparently you jumped right on dictionary.com though. Maybe you should have done so prior to stating you know what irony is.

Yes, bow out now, before it's too late.
InviSniper
The first true Sniper.
+95|7116|Cumberland, MD, USA
Rank means nothing, only how long you've played. I look at how a player does in a round to judge them, but even then it is not accurate. Some players could be "on" and others "off" during a round. My highest score is 117 and the round directly after that I got 20. What does that say?
Torin
Member
+52|7164

InviSniper wrote:

What does that say?
You got lucky the round before?

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