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Darwin

Guardian wrote:

Half of British adults do not believe in evolution, with at least 22% preferring the theories of creationism or intelligent design to explain how the world came about, according to a survey.

The poll found that 25% of Britons believe Charles Darwin's theory of evolution is "definitely true", with another quarter saying it is "probably true". Half of the 2,060 people questioned were either strongly opposed to the theory or confused about it.

The Rescuing Darwin survey, published to coincide with the 200th anniversary of Darwin's birth and the 150th anniversary of the publication of On the Origin of ­Species, found that around 10% of people chose young Earth creationism – the belief that God created the world some time in the last 10,000 years – over evolution.

About 12% preferred intelligent design, the idea that evolution alone is not enough to explain the structures of living organisms. The remainder were unsure, often mixing evolution, intelligent design and creationism together. The survey was conducted by the polling agency ComRes on behalf of the Theos thinktank.

A spokesman for Sense about Science, an independent charitable trust, said it was important for scientists and educators to disentangle religious belief from evidence.

James Williams, a lecturer at Sussex University, said: "Creationists ask if ­people believe in evolution. Evolution is a theory and a fact. You accept it because of the evidence. What the creationists have done is put a cloak of pseudo-science to wrap up their religious belief."

Later this month scientists and academics from across Europe will meet in Dortmund, Germany, to discuss evolution and creationism. It will be the first European conference of its kind to deal with different aspects of attitudes and knowledge related to evolution. They will discuss specific difficulties regarding the acceptance of evolution theory in their home countries.

Williams, who will give a paper presenting a British perspective on evolution and creationism in school science, said: "Evolution is very badly taught in schools so the results of the survey don't surprise me. On the other hand, creationism has traditionally been an issue in North America and there is a big problem in Australia and Turkey. It matters if people don't understand how science works."

The Rescuing Darwin project includes the launch of Darwin and God, a new book on the naturalist's religious beliefs, at Westminster Abbey, where he is buried, and a debate about evolution and religion. Participants will include Dr Denis Alexander, Lord Robert Winston, Professor Steve Jones and Professor Nancy Rothwell.

Events celebrating Darwin's achievements are taking place throughout the year. Cambridge University is hosting a festival to unravel themes of science, society, literature, philosophy, theology and music arising from his writings, life and times.

The Natural History Museum, in London, is exhibiting previously unseen specimens and artefacts, while Darwin's home in Kent, Down House, opens to the public from 13 February.
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Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|6953|Long Island, New York
Neither does Kansas.

Or her:

https://weblogs.newsday.com/sports/watchdog/blog/sarah-palin-thumb.jpg
DUnlimited
got any popo lolo intersting?
+1,160|6879|cuntshitlake

..the fuck?

I understand USA, but UK?
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DesertFox-
The very model of a modern major general
+796|7100|United States of America
Need some better science teachers.
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FatherTed
xD
+3,936|6916|so randum
stupid brits
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Use an umbrella
S.Lythberg
Mastermind
+429|6862|Chicago, IL
confused about it?

the premise is fairly simple...
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|7016|132 and Bush

Poseidon wrote:

Neither does Kansas.

Or her:

http://weblogs.newsday.com/sports/watch … -thumb.jpg
Her words, "evolution should be taught as an accepted principle". She says she "sees the hand of god in it". Big difference in saying she doesn't believe in it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEZITdTFfPY
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Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|7016|132 and Bush

DeathUnlimited wrote:

..the fuck?

I understand USA, but UK?
I know not one person who does not believe in evolution.
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FatherTed
xD
+3,936|6916|so randum

Kmarion wrote:

DeathUnlimited wrote:

..the fuck?

I understand USA, but UK?
I know not one person who does not believe in evolution.
Same
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Always raining and foggy
Use an umbrella
S.Lythberg
Mastermind
+429|6862|Chicago, IL

Kmarion wrote:

DeathUnlimited wrote:

..the fuck?

I understand USA, but UK?
I know not one person who does not believe in evolution.
go to church moar
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|7016|132 and Bush

S.Lythberg wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

DeathUnlimited wrote:

..the fuck?

I understand USA, but UK?
I know not one person who does not believe in evolution.
go to church moar
I did with my parent the weekend before last. Maybe you should.
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S.Lythberg
Mastermind
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Kmarion wrote:

S.Lythberg wrote:

Kmarion wrote:


I know not one person who does not believe in evolution.
go to church moar
I did with my parent the weekend before last. Maybe you should.
I went on Christmas, but my family's church is fairly progressive, go to one of those baptist megachurches
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
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S.Lythberg wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

S.Lythberg wrote:


go to church moar
I did with my parent the weekend before last. Maybe you should.
I went on Christmas, but my family's church is fairly progressive, go to one of those baptist megachurches
No thx. I'd have to drive miles into the boonies to find a megachurch. It's not the norm around here.
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S.Lythberg
Mastermind
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Kmarion wrote:

S.Lythberg wrote:

Kmarion wrote:


I did with my parent the weekend before last. Maybe you should.
I went on Christmas, but my family's church is fairly progressive, go to one of those baptist megachurches
No thx. I'd have to drive miles into the boonies to find a megachurch. It's not the norm around here.
You'd roll your eyes the whole time anyway, its religutainment aimed at the chronically weak minded...
Doctor Strangelove
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I've yet to meet anyone who doesn't believe in some form evolution.
M.O.A.B
'Light 'em up!'
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AB of Canterbury will pay! *cracks knuckles*
Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|7037|London, England
I find that hard to believe, or maybe things are even more different outside of London than I thought. Or maybe they just interviewed all the Polaks

Darwin features on our currency (£10 note), then again so is God (I think.......well actually I dunno, maybe that's just for Yanks)
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|6997|SE London

FatherTed wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

DeathUnlimited wrote:

..the fuck?

I understand USA, but UK?
I know not one person who does not believe in evolution.
Same
Ditto.
Noobeater
Northern numpty
+194|6863|Boulder, CO

DoctaStrangelove wrote:

I've yet to meet anyone who doesn't believe in some form evolution.
Even my catholic ancient history teacher believes in evolution, in fact i don't know anybody who doesn't!
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|6997|SE London

Mekstizzle wrote:

I find that hard to believe, or maybe things are even more different outside of London than I thought. Or maybe they just interviewed all the Polaks

Darwin features on our currency (£10 note), then again so is God (I think.......well actually I dunno, maybe that's just for Yanks)
Nope.

Don't you have any money?

What do they mean Down House opens to the public - it's always been open to the public. It's national trust. I've been there. It's by Bromley.

Last edited by Bertster7 (2009-02-02 13:55:22)

Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|7037|London, England
Nope (none within range of the desk)
Aries_37
arrivederci frog
+368|6991|London
I know loads of people who don't believe in evolution. But they've done their research and I respect them infinitely more than someone who says they believe in evolution but has almost no idea what the science behind their supposed belief is. They believe that we came from simpler organisms simply because some scientists tell them so, and are imo no better than the mindless sheep at the 'baptist megachurches'. 

Personally I'm a devout Christian but don't think evolution and the idea of a creator are mutually exclusive.

Last edited by Aries_37 (2009-02-02 14:02:46)

Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|7037|London, England
I've yet to see someone who doesn't believe in evolution provide a proper viable alternative, not just regurgitate the Bible or attempt to disprove evolution via various stupid examples. I'm talking about proper arguments against evolution, no actually, proper arguments for their theory/whatever theory they believe in, that first, then arguments against evolution.

Personally I just don't see why people can't think of evolution being gods plan/work? Good compromise imfo
Bell
Frosties > Cornflakes
+362|6965|UK

I never pay attention to polls (zomg racism).  Isnt there two types of evolution though? 

I'd be curious as to what that extra 20%ish believes in, as far as I was aware evolution and creationism was the only games in town (at least in name).

Martyn
Aries_37
arrivederci frog
+368|6991|London
Well off the top of my head a popular alternative theory is that God created the universe 4000 years ago. Complete with dinosaur fossils, partially decayed carbon isotopes, and gemstones already in the earth. In essence an already perfect creation.

I haven't explained it very well but it's a theory that's impossible to disprove for the foreseeable future.

But yeah mek like you said, personally I find that argument (the compromise one) the most compelling, and I don't see it as me having to compromise. From my understanding it seems the most probable. But I suppose like most theological debates it's kinda moot. Even within Christianity being able to exactly describe how God created the universe is unnecessary for any practical purpose and I don't mind/ am not surprised if other Christians have a different viewpoint.

Last edited by Aries_37 (2009-02-02 14:20:45)

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