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2009-02-03 06:31:59

Cybargs: Moderated; +2,285|7132

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/02/0 … 63074.html

BERLIN, Feb 2 (IPS) - Now that former U.S. president George W. Bush is an ordinary citizen again, many legal and human rights activists in Europe are demanding that he and high-ranking members of his government be brought before justice for crimes against humanity committed in the so-called war on terror.

"Judicial clarification of the crimes against international law the former U.S. government committed is one of the most delicate issues that the new U.S. president Barack Obama will have to deal with," Wolfgang Kaleck, general secretary of the European Centre for Human and Constitutional Rights told IPS.

U.S. justice will have to "deal with the turpitudes committed by the Bush government," says Kaleck, who has already tried unsuccessfully to sue the former U.S. authorities in European courts. "And, furthermore, the U.S. government will have to pay compensation to the innocent people who were victims of these crimes."

Kaleck and other legal experts consider Bush and his highest-ranking officials responsible for crimes against humanity, such as torture.

Many agree that the evidence against the U.S. government is overwhelming. U.S. officials have admitted some crimes such as waterboarding, where a victim is tied up and water is poured into the air passages. Also, human rights activists have gathered testimonies by innocent victims of torture, especially some prisoners at the Guantanamo Bay detention camp.

In an interview with the German public television network ZDF, Austrian human rights lawyer Manfred Nowak, UN special rapporteur on torture, said that numerous cases of torture ordered by U.S. officials and perpetrated by U.S. authorities are well documented.

"We possess all the evidence which proves that the torture methods used in interrogation by the U.S. government were explicitly ordered by former U.S. defence minister Donald Rumsfeld," Nowak told ZDF. "Obviously, these orders were given with the highest U.S. authorities' knowledge."

Yeah... Bush is the greatest evil the world has ever seen. What about dicks in Africa and the Middle East. Oh, we don't want to get involved with "civil strife".

Pricks.

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2009-02-03 06:36:48

JahManRed: wank; +646|7044|IRELAND

Pahh,
What the fuck. Ultimately Bush Co did what they though was best for US survival and power, even though it meant dumping on a few nations in the process. It is totally unrealistic to pursue this. Do you think the US is going to hand over Bush to the UN. Not a chance. Bush has wasted enough money without the EU wasting money trying to try him. Let him go................let it go, move the fuck on. Them UN fucks are just looking for something else to waste our money on.

2009-02-03 07:10:40

mafia996630: © 2009 Jeff Minard; +319|7179|d

If someone has committed a crime and there is evidence to support the claims, they should be bought to justice. Shouldn't matter if its the Queen or dirt like bush.

2009-02-03 07:15:28

Catbox: forgiveness; +505|7132

what a joke... there's a long line of people that could be ahead of Bush... where is there outrage for other people and leaders that are far more evil?

Love is the answer

2009-02-03 07:24:25

Cybargs: Moderated; +2,285|7132

mafia996630 wrote:
If someone has committed a crime and there is evidence to support the claims, they should be bought to justice. Shouldn't matter if its the Queen or dirt like bush.

How about people like the leaders of Sudan, Iran, Saudi Arabia for their violations and crime against humanity? As catbox said, a long lite of people should be ahead of Bush. And no, Bush is not the same as Hitler, I don't see no fucking death camps, hell Gitmo is fucking Club Med compared to the shit in Africa.

2009-02-03 07:26:34

NantanCochise: Member; +55|6394|Portugal/United States

...arnt these the same people who are even scared to utter the word Mugabe. Like Catbox pointed out, there are a lot of leaders ahead of Bush. The World has absolutely no answer to Somalia, Sudan, Palestine, Zimbabwe, Sri Lanka, Myanmar, Kashmir, just to name a few. Going after Bush is a waist of time and money and is a big distraction from the issues that are a lot more serious and are in need of a lot more attention.

2009-02-03 07:33:11

mafia996630: © 2009 Jeff Minard; +319|7179|d

Cybargs wrote:
mafia996630 wrote:
If someone has committed a crime and there is evidence to support the claims, they should be bought to justice. Shouldn't matter if its the Queen or dirt like bush.
How about people like the leaders of Sudan, Iran, Saudi Arabia for their violations and crime against humanity? As catbox said, a long lite of people should be ahead of Bush. And no, Bush is not the same as Hitler, I don't see no fucking death camps, hell Gitmo is fucking Club Med compared to the shit in Africa.

Let me repeat what i said,

If !!!!SOMEONE!!!! has committed a crime and there is evidence to support the claims, they should be bought to justice. Shouldn't matter if its the Queen or dirt like bush.

2009-02-03 07:35:37

Cybargs: Moderated; +2,285|7132

mafia996630 wrote:
Cybargs wrote:
mafia996630 wrote:
If someone has committed a crime and there is evidence to support the claims, they should be bought to justice. Shouldn't matter if its the Queen or dirt like bush.
How about people like the leaders of Sudan, Iran, Saudi Arabia for their violations and crime against humanity? As catbox said, a long lite of people should be ahead of Bush. And no, Bush is not the same as Hitler, I don't see no fucking death camps, hell Gitmo is fucking Club Med compared to the shit in Africa.
Let me repeat what i said,

If !!!!SOMEONE!!!! has committed a crime and there is evidence to support the claims, they should be bought to justice. Shouldn't matter if its the Queen or dirt like bush.

Lol what crimes. As I said stop wasting time on Bush, he aint shit compared to the rest of the nutbags, but do you hear them crying about Human Rights? No.

2009-02-03 07:40:42

SgtHeihn: Should have ducked; +394|6903|Ham Lake, MN (Fucking Cold)

mafia996630 wrote:
Cybargs wrote:
mafia996630 wrote:
If someone has committed a crime and there is evidence to support the claims, they should be bought to justice. Shouldn't matter if its the Queen or dirt like bush.
How about people like the leaders of Sudan, Iran, Saudi Arabia for their violations and crime against humanity? As catbox said, a long lite of people should be ahead of Bush. And no, Bush is not the same as Hitler, I don't see no fucking death camps, hell Gitmo is fucking Club Med compared to the shit in Africa.
Let me repeat what i said,

If !!!!SOMEONE!!!! has committed a crime and there is evidence to support the claims, they should be bought to justice. Shouldn't matter if its the Queen or dirt like bush.

What crimes did he commit? If you think He is a "war criminal" then what about your whole royal family for all the same shit that happened in Northern Ireland?

2009-02-03 07:47:26

mafia996630: © 2009 Jeff Minard; +319|7179|d

Cybargs wrote:
mafia996630 wrote:
Cybargs wrote:

How about people like the leaders of Sudan, Iran, Saudi Arabia for their violations and crime against humanity? As catbox said, a long lite of people should be ahead of Bush. And no, Bush is not the same as Hitler, I don't see no fucking death camps, hell Gitmo is fucking Club Med compared to the shit in Africa.
Let me repeat what i said,

If !!!!SOMEONE!!!! has committed a crime and there is evidence to support the claims, they should be bought to justice. Shouldn't matter if its the Queen or dirt like bush.
Lol what crimes. As I said stop wasting time on Bush, he aint shit compared to the rest of the nutbags, but do you hear them crying about Human Rights? No.

I didn't say bush committed any crimes, I am not trying to put bush on trail. The human rights groups are so ask them that question. A person position in society should not excuse them of the law.

Personally I agree. They are worse people out there but more popular ? i highly doubt it. O wait, there is this one dude who escaped while the whole world was searching for him.

2009-02-03 07:50:55

NantanCochise: Member; +55|6394|Portugal/United States

mafia996630 wrote:
Cybargs wrote:
mafia996630 wrote:
If someone has committed a crime and there is evidence to support the claims, they should be bought to justice. Shouldn't matter if its the Queen or dirt like bush.
How about people like the leaders of Sudan, Iran, Saudi Arabia for their violations and crime against humanity? As catbox said, a long lite of people should be ahead of Bush. And no, Bush is not the same as Hitler, I don't see no fucking death camps, hell Gitmo is fucking Club Med compared to the shit in Africa.
Let me repeat what i said,

If !!!!SOMEONE!!!! has committed a crime and there is evidence to support the claims, they should be bought to justice. Shouldn't matter if its the Queen or dirt like bush.

I know what you are saying but can you imagine the time and money spent on putting Bush on trial and the chances in actually getting a conviction. There is more important work at hand.

2009-02-03 08:47:59

Kmar: Truth is my Bitch; +5,695|7016|132 and Bush

I could have told you everything you needed to know about this article as soon as I read huffington post.

Xbone Stormsurgezz

2009-02-03 23:42:37

NgoDamWei: Member; +7|6079|Western North Carolina

Just shows journalism can and will print anything whether it has validity or not. Good to see there is no lock on sanity even among "many legal and human rights activists in Europe". I believe in the desperate times/measures thingy.

Use a mentally challenged person to detonate a bomb at a pet bazaar, train station or any other circumstance you have lost your right to human rights.

From a personal viewpoint, those having endured waterboarding only suffered minor injuries, I don't believe any died from the process other than their dignity perhaps. There are certainly far more diabolic methods.

That battery is still fully charged, yes ?

Fuck Kaleck, and his horse.

As for all that documentation - for sure some, real and imagined, exists as does much embelishment.

2009-02-03 23:51:21

destruktion_6143: Was ist Loos?; +154|7042|Canada

mafia996630 wrote:
Cybargs wrote:
mafia996630 wrote:

Let me repeat what i said,

If !!!!SOMEONE!!!! has committed a crime and there is evidence to support the claims, they should be bought to justice. Shouldn't matter if its the Queen or dirt like bush.
Lol what crimes. As I said stop wasting time on Bush, he aint shit compared to the rest of the nutbags, but do you hear them crying about Human Rights? No.
I didn't say bush committed any crimes, I am not trying to put bush on trail. The human rights groups are so ask them that question. A person position in society should not excuse them of the law.

Personally I agree. They are worse people out there but more popular ? i highly doubt it.O wait, there is this one dude who escaped while the whole world was searching for him.

lol forever known as "the one who got away" curious how the whole world media has simply "forgotten" about him, you know, since he is the prime reason why there are troops in the ME now...

2009-02-04 00:24:01

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,822|6522|eXtreme to the maX

I know what you are saying but can you imagine the time and money spent on putting Bush on trial and the chances in actually getting a conviction. There is more important work at hand.

If it discouraged the next person from spending $1Trillion on a counterproductive war even if it cost $1bn to put Bush on trial it would be worth it.

Fuck Israel

2009-02-04 04:28:51

Turquoise: O Canada; +1,596|6821|North Carolina

Dilbert_X wrote:
I know what you are saying but can you imagine the time and money spent on putting Bush on trial and the chances in actually getting a conviction. There is more important work at hand.
If it discouraged the next person from spending $1Trillion on a counterproductive war even if it cost $1bn to put Bush on trial it would be worth it.

Well, considering how many counterproductive wars we've engaged in... I would have to say this is probably an act in futility.

2009-02-04 04:35:09

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,822|6522|eXtreme to the maX

And how many of your Pesidents have been prosecuted for engaging in illegal and counterproductive wars?
None, there ya go.
Make a start with Duhbya.

Fuck Israel

2009-02-04 04:37:41

Turquoise: O Canada; +1,596|6821|North Carolina

Dilbert_X wrote:
And how many of your Pesidents have been prosecuted for engaging in illegal and counterproductive wars?
None, there ya go.
Make a start with Duhbya.

We'll start if Africa starts.

2009-02-04 04:41:22

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,822|6522|eXtreme to the maX

Africa is a whole different story, not a modern, western, christian(ish) country which prides itself on the rule of law.

Prosecuting Bush might ensure President Palin doesn't do anything really stupid.

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Fuck Israel

2009-02-04 04:45:10

Turquoise: O Canada; +1,596|6821|North Carolina

Dilbert_X wrote:
Africa is a whole different story, not a modern, western, christian(ish) country which prides itself on the rule of law.

Prosecuting Bush might ensure President Palin doesn't do anything really stupid.

If Palin ever becomes president, we'll have a lot more than just war to worry about. lol

2009-02-04 05:09:19

NgoDamWei: Member; +7|6079|Western North Carolina

Dildo_X wrote:
"Africa is a whole different story, not a modern, western, christian(ish) country which prides itself on the rule of law.

Prosecuting Bush might ensure President Palin doesn't do anything really stupid."

What a tool - not being modern, western, christian(ish) has nothing to do with anything. Niether does anything related to Palin.

That beret should be replaced with a more appropriate duncecap.

2009-02-04 05:11:01

AutralianChainsaw: Member; +65|6614

Bush is responsible for the death of 1 million iraquis.. he deserve the death penalty 1 million times.

2009-02-04 05:19:20

NgoDamWei: Member; +7|6079|Western North Carolina

AutralianChainsaw wrote:
Bush is responsible for the death of 1 million iraquis.. he deserve the death penalty 1 million times.

Another tool heard from.

2009-02-04 05:19:26

AussieReaper: ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°); +5,761|6569|what

NgoDamWei wrote:
That beret should be replaced with a more appropriate duncecap.

Protip - that isn't really him in the picture.

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