Defiance
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Poseidon wrote:

DoctaStrangelove wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

Most console RTS's usually suck (SupCom being just one), but I think Halo Wars and EndWar (especially with it's voice commands) will change that.
Keep dreaming.
Damn, I knew I should have made "baseless hate" more general..

While I agree that RTS's might seem awkward on consoles to most people and RTS's on PCs are generally better, the Halo franchise is too huge for Ensemble/MGS to fuck this up. They know they've got a lot riding on this.

Same with UbiSoft and EndWar.
No matter how big a series, people making the next piece in the series can and often do fuck it up. This is especially evident in movies. Look at the most recent Indiana Jones, or Rambo.

Besides, Halo 2 and 3... were only well received because they were Halo. They definitely did not live up to the original, even given it's insane success.

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Poseidon
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Some new stuff from TGS '08 -

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/41105.html - YAY, FLOOD

Screens from Xbox360Achievements.org -

https://www.xbox360achievements.org/images/screenshots/431/med_campaign1.jpg
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Full gallery here:

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Kez
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/me adds game to list of games that me wants
Eagle
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Im surprised no one has commented on the HW demo yet.

In my opinion, as a halo fag who has all three games and all six books, this is looking very promising from the demo
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Archer
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solid rts...

sleeper hit confirmed atm
Poseidon
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-=]NS[=-Eagle wrote:

Im surprised no one has commented on the HW demo yet.

In my opinion, as a halo fag who has all three games and all six books, this is looking very promising from the demo
I tried the demo. It's very...easy. Even on Heroic difficulty.

I'm gonna wait until the critic reviews start coming in.
Ioan92
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This is so gay. They stole the idea from the original which was a total conversion for CNC Generals.

Fuck you Microsoft and fuck you Bungie.


http://halogen.slipstreamproductions.net/
War Man
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Ioan92 wrote:

This is so gay. They stole the idea from the original which was a total conversion for CNC Generals.

Fuck you Microsoft and fuck you Bungie.


http://halogen.slipstreamproductions.net/
They didn't copy the idea. Also bungie isn't making halo wars, the ones making it are ensemble studios(the makers of Age of Empires 1 and 2, and Age of Mythology).
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Ioan92
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Halogen was being developed before Halo Wars. It was the same fucking thing as Halo Wars. Just before the mod was finished they (Microsoft and Bungie) decided to stop this for the sake of this game. I am really not surprised not a long after they shut it down Halo Wars was announced.

Bungie is not making the game but they sold the rights of the game to Ensemble studios.


If I would of been making Halogen I would replied a big FUCK YOU to that cease and desist letter.
War Man
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I know what Halogen was, and I know it was developed before halo wars. You can't really blame bungie as they were the ones who invented the storyline of halo.
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Halo wars... thats microsoft being greedy as always.  next an RTS in a console system= FAIL. every RTS i have played in life was for the PC. And Halo wars is going to be filled with 13 year old racist retards like the Halo FPS games.  im  passing  on this one.
Ioan92
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War Man wrote:

I know what Halogen was, and I know it was developed before halo wars. You can't really blame bungie as they were the ones who invented the storyline of halo.
/facepalm

Bungie was actually unofficially supporting it until MS forced them to C&D

So what are 50% to blame and 50% innocent. Remember this is before bungie broke up from MS
Flecco
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Ioan, Bungie didn't sell the rights to Halo. They never owned them after signing on to have MS publish.


Poseidon, what are the controls like? Because I just read the official reviews and it just seems to me like they've rehashed and simplified a popular genre of PC gaming for the casual gaming market.


Sounds a bit like another game I've heard of before. Name starts with H... Umm...





That's it. Halo: Combat Evolved.
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Eagle
Togs8896 is my evil alter ego
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The game's actually pretty fun.  I think it's too short and not living up to its potential, but fun nonetheless.

I personally love the story in halo (ive read the books) and thats where the game shines for me.  Halo 3 had an absolute bullshit storyline, but this game is very well done with fantastic cutscenes.  Not anywhere as good as starcraft or age of empires, but im glad i got the game.
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FatherTed
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Ja, reading around various reviews this is actually meant to be quite good

And inb4 Oh noes its not a proper RTS;

Course it fucking isn't, it's on a console. While i <3 console gaming, RTS in the PC style would never ever translate across well. So they made their own style, and so far it seems to do fine.
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DoctaStrangelove wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

Most console RTS's usually suck (SupCom being just one), but I think Halo Wars and EndWar (especially with it's voice commands) will change that.
Keep dreaming.
All a console needs to win at the RTS is a keyboard and mouse. Voice recognition is still too primitive.
Flecco
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unnamednewbie13 wrote:

DoctaStrangelove wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

Most console RTS's usually suck (SupCom being just one), but I think Halo Wars and EndWar (especially with it's voice commands) will change that.
Keep dreaming.
All a console needs to win at the RTS is a keyboard and mouse. Voice recognition is still too primitive.
I'd argue that word recognition and interpretation needs to be dealt with.

Screw using a grid reference system for voice commands, I want to be able to say 'HIDE BEHIND THE LITTLE GREY ROCK IN THE BOTTOM RIGHT YOU SILLY MUPPETS' and be understood.
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RavyGravy
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Flecco wrote:

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

DoctaStrangelove wrote:


Keep dreaming.
All a console needs to win at the RTS is a keyboard and mouse. Voice recognition is still too primitive.
I'd argue that word recognition and interpretation needs to be dealt with.

Screw using a grid reference system for voice commands, I want to be able to say 'HIDE BEHIND THE LITTLE GREY ROCK IN THE BOTTOM RIGHT YOU SILLY MUPPETS' and be understood.
i want to be able to say "end flecco" and i want them to hunt you down
TimmmmaaaaH
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Poseidon wrote:

Most console RTS's usually suck (SupCom being just one)
Supreme Commander was on consoles?

Wow, that game is too slow and complicated for most PC gamers...let alone consolers.

I personally like it, but most people dont seem to
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IrishGrimReaper
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Well, the game itself is "alright" for an RTS on a console.

But it lacks compared to RTS on PC's. The cover system in HaloWars is shit, having to "exit" troops out of cover sucks, CoH set a good standard with it's cover system, in that it was just easy to get into cover. I wish the cover system was like CoH. Would it be so hard to implement this on a console? maybe graphic engines are a factor, I don't know.

And the lack of stances/formations(would be cool enough) EG: aggresive/hold fire is a minus too.

Alright of a game, even though it wasn't expected to be amazing cause it was on a console, it could have been alot better.

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Eagle
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MASSIVE SPOILER VIDEO (for those who care)

Just beat the game and this cutscene between the 14th and 15th levels is just fantastic.  I dont care if you like halo or not, I think its awesome.

Last edited by -=]NS[=-Eagle (2009-03-05 17:55:17)

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-=]NS[=-Eagle wrote:

MASSIVE SPOILER VIDEO (for those who care)

Just beat the game and this cutscene between the 14th and 15th levels is just fantastic.  I dont care if you like halo or not, I think its awesome.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWaf8CVS6cg
what was so cool about that?
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FatherTed
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Miggle wrote:

-=]NS[=-Eagle wrote:

MASSIVE SPOILER VIDEO (for those who care)

Just beat the game and this cutscene between the 14th and 15th levels is just fantastic.  I dont care if you like halo or not, I think its awesome.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWaf8CVS6cg
what was so cool about that?
oh shut up

Yeh eagle, read the cutscenes were , if you get the chance post some more up!
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Flecco
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Might rent a copy. Should be good for a few hours.
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Flecco
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IrishGrimReaper wrote:

The cover system in HaloWars is shit, having to "exit" troops out of cover sucks, CoH set a good standard with it's cover system, in that it was just easy to get into cover. I wish the cover system was like CoH. Would it be so hard to implement this on a console?
Will be a while before you see anybody being able to replicate with decency what Relic accomplished with CoH's cover system.

I need to get OpFronts. Love the original. Wehrmacht are awesome. Want to try using the Red Devils and Ruperts.

Last edited by Flecco (2009-03-05 18:42:16)

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