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Benzin
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http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/12/wind … -released/

Gotta love leaked documents, huh?

I think this is all pretty fair, though, right? I mean, clearly MS have seen what happened with Vista and they want to give people every opportunity to get off XP at long last.

The only question is this: Will XP finally die with the release of Windows 7???
rdx-fx
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Sounds like they intentionally leaked the documents as a trial balloon, to gauge public reaction before actually committing to anything.

I don't see a direct upgrade path from XP to Win7, so, no, they're missing a very key market segment there.

Only saw XP to Win7, if you paid for Vista, then downgraded to XP
Benzin
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Well it's pretty obvious. They are trying to axe XP off and get people off the old technology. Buy a full license of Win7, however, and install it on whatever the hell you want.
rdx-fx
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I'm liking the Win7 beta enough that I may do just that.

The worst I've seen so far is a momentary lockup, then a notification to the general effect of "Video driver stopped responding. Restarted fine.  No blue screen, no program crashes.. have a nice day"
To be fair, that was on a horribly overloaded system running a ton of browser windows, Pro/Engineer , sticky notes, acrobat docs, itunes, instant messenger, excel, word, etc, etc...

Would be nice, however, if MS did a mea culpa and effectively said "My bad.  sorry about that whole Vista mis-step.  Just pretend it never happened, like WinME or Xenix.  We'll let our customers upgrade from XP to Win7 directly, since they seem to be the majority of our customer base"
Volatile
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I think I'll skip windows 7, as my Vista is working perfectly.
bugz
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W7 just looks like Vista with an improved UI in my opinion. I'll stay with Vista x64 till I'm forced to upgrade.

I was told today that only the OEM versions of Vista are upgradable. People with retail versions are out of luck for now at least.

Last edited by ebug9 (2009-02-12 13:45:37)

Cheez
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Volatile wrote:

I think I'll skip windows 7, as my Vista is working perfectly.
wat
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TheEternalPessimist
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If Win7 is a bit less system heavy then it'll do well, if not, noone will want it, high end rigs don't count, they have a ton of RAM and high end CPUs, it's the 'normal' folks who buy £500 PCs that need the resource hogging to dissapear.
Wallpaper
+303|6258|The pool

TheEternalPessimist wrote:

If Win7 is a bit less system heavy then it'll do well, if not, noone will want it, high end rigs don't count, they have a ton of RAM and high end CPUs, it's the 'normal' folks who buy £500 PCs that need the resource hogging to dissapear.
Have you tried the beta? It runs almost as fast as XP, and lots of people are running it on 4-5 year old hardware WITH aero
GR34
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I am totaly down for Windows 7 as long as it does not use more then 400mb of ram when I just leave it there. MY step dads pooter has 6 gigs of ram and Vista uses 2.2 gigs just sitting there
Kmar
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CapnNismo wrote:

The only question is this: Will XP finally die with the release of Windows 7???
It will go a long ways towards it. I put windows 7 on one of my other machines at work (it was on XP). And it's actually moving faster/cleaner. Vista was basically a beta for Windows 7. A beta that people paid big bucks to participate in. MS should release W7 at a discounted price. A 49.99 upgrade sounds reasonable. They'd sell 10x's more copies.
Xbone Stormsurgezz
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rdx-fx wrote:

Sounds like they intentionally leaked the documents as a trial balloon, to gauge public reaction before actually committing to anything.

I don't see a direct upgrade path from XP to Win7, so, no, they're missing a very key market segment there.

Only saw XP to Win7, if you paid for Vista, then downgraded to XP

Tech ARP wrote:

Overview Of The Windows 7 Upgrade Program

The Windows 7 Upgrade Program is designed to assist Microsoft's OEM partners in minimizing the number of end users who may postpone acquiring a new computer because of the impending release of the Windows 7 operating system. This program allows OEMs to offer an upgrade to Windows 7 to end users who qualify.

This is a consumer-oriented program targeted at individual consumers and small businesses that have purchased eligible PCs during the Program Eligibility Period. End users will have to meet these requirements to be deemed eligible for the upgrade to Windows 7 when it is released :

    * End users must purchase a new PC that is pre-installed with an eligible Windows Vista Operating System (OS), during the program eligibility window.
       
    * The PC must have a valid Certificate of Authenticity (COA) attached.
       
    * The only Windows Vista® versions eligible for the program are :
         1. Windows Vista® Home Premium
         2. Windows Vista® Business
         3. Windows Vista® Ultimate
      * Microsoft Windows Vista® Home Basic, Windows Vista® Starter Edition, and Windows® XP (all editions) are not qualifying products under the program.
       
    * The Program does not support multiple upgrades for medium, large, or enterprise customers. Customers that want to upgrade multiple PCs should use the appropriate Microsoft Volume Licensing program.  See www.microsoft.com/licensing for more details.
       
    * The following are the only valid upgrade paths under the program :
         1. Windows Vista® Home Premium -> Windows® 7 Home Premium
         2. Windows Vista® Business -> Windows® 7 Professional
         3. Windows Vista® Ultimate -> Windows® 7 Ultimate

Do note that this is an optional program, so not all OEMs may choose to participate. OEMs that choose to participate in this upgrade program will have the freedom to determine how to best provide qualifying end users with the details.
Kmar
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CapnNismo wrote:

Well it's pretty obvious. They are trying to axe XP off and get people off the old technology. Buy a full license of Win7, however, and install it on whatever the hell you want.
They're supporting XP until 2014. Of course they want people to buy again. But if they wanted to force a move they wouldn't support theirs OS's for over 10 years.
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Benzin
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Yea, but they had not originally planned to extend support for XP out that far. What was the original cut-off date? Sometime in 2009/10, as I recall.

Perhaps MS also hadn't bet on Win7 being quite the hit that it is? I certainly hope the final retail version does live up to the hype that the beta is getting now. I would have loved to have installed the beta on my own machines, but I just don't have the patience at the moment (nor the space on my EEE PC).
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