router fire hazard?

2009-02-13 11:15:00

#1

prototype: Member; +52|6575

I have a Netgear wireless router that sits behind my monitor.

It sits on a laminated pressed wood desk about 12 inches away from my monitor and about 3 inches away from the wall (painted sheet rock)

I always shut off my computer/monitor when they are not being used but i leave my router on 24/7 because my roommates' computer is hooked up to it and she is always using her computer.

I noticed the other day that the router itself gets pretty warm, in particular the bottom of it.

I wanted to ask if I should worry about this or do anything about it in regards to it being a fire hazard.

I have an old notebook cooling pad that I was thinking of putting underneath it but wanted to ask you guys what you thought first.

anyone ever have a router catch fire or burn your desk?

thank you for any replies

Last edited by prototype (2009-02-13 11:16:31)

2009-02-13 11:17:06

#2

steelie34: pub hero!; +603|6645|the land of bourbon

if you can touch it with your bare hand, its not going to cause anything to catch fire. that being said, it's always a good idea to keep your computer equipment as cool as possible. it will run better, and extends the overall life.

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2009-02-13 11:20:12

#3

Scorpion0x17: can detect anyone's visible post count...; +691|7030|Cambridge (UK)

There's always a fire risk with any electrical item.

Having said that, I've never heard of anyone's router bursting into flames. So you're probably safe.

Question: Do you have it laying-down, or on-it's-side?

(assuming it's one of the models that comes with little 'feet'/'stands' so that it can be stood on it's end) - if it's laying down, try putting the 'feet'/'stands' on and keeping on-it's-side - apparently they run cooler that way.

2009-02-13 11:29:37

#4

TheDonkey: Eat my bearrrrrrrrrrr, Tonighttt; +163|5981|Vancouver, BC, Canada

Well I'm sure SOMEONE has some freak story of a router shorting out and burning crap, but on a day to day basis, it's almost never a problem.

My WRT54G which is always running at almost full capacity(torrents) is stationed in a little 2 inch high cubby on my my desk, it has half an inch above, half below, and 1 inch on each side, and it's just fine.

2009-02-13 11:33:09

#5

Dauntless: Admin; +2,249|7006|London

You need to get a router with an inbuilt.... FIREWALL

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sorry

2009-02-13 11:34:40

#6

Freezer7Pro: I don't come here a lot anymore.; +1,447|6461|Winland

No, it isn't gonna catch fire. No matter what you do, it isn't going to catch fire. You can hook it up to a kilovolt, and it won't catch fire. Even if something inside would catch fire, it wouldn't spread outside of the plastic, as there is nothing that will burn inside of it.

Why do everyone fear electronics?

The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP

2009-02-13 11:40:18

#7

Brasso: member; +1,549|6894

i boosted my WRT54G signal from 75mW to 80mW and it's still cool. however, i know that before, it used to run a little warm.

wait, that's not really relevant. okay, the main thing is that it won't set your house on fire.

"people in ny have a general idea of how to drive. one of the pedals goes forward the other one prevents you from dying"

2009-02-13 11:42:23

#8

Freezer7Pro: I don't come here a lot anymore.; +1,447|6461|Winland

haffeysucks wrote:
i boosted my WRT54G signal from 75mW to 80mW and it's still cool. however, i know that before, it used to run a little warm.

wait, that's not really relevant. okay, the main thing is that it won't set your house on fire.

5mW? Lol. That won't improve your range. Set it to 100mW to see something happen. We run the one in school at 250.

The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP

2009-02-13 11:42:38

#9

TheDonkey: Eat my bearrrrrrrrrrr, Tonighttt; +163|5981|Vancouver, BC, Canada

haffeysucks wrote:
i boosted my WRT54G signal from 75mW to 80mW and it's still cool. however, i know that before, it used to run a little warm.

wait, that's not really relevant. okay, the main thing is that it won't set your house on fire.

You actually boosted it from either 60 or 70 to 80,

By default, when you install DD-WRT it boosts it up a couple notches.

2009-02-13 11:47:45

#10

Freezer7Pro: I don't come here a lot anymore.; +1,447|6461|Winland

TheDonkey wrote:
haffeysucks wrote:
i boosted my WRT54G signal from 75mW to 80mW and it's still cool. however, i know that before, it used to run a little warm.

wait, that's not really relevant. okay, the main thing is that it won't set your house on fire.
You actually boosted it from either 60 or 70 to 80,

By default, when you install DD-WRT it boosts it up a couple notches.

Tomato > DD-WRT tbh.

The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP

2009-02-13 11:53:12

#11

Scorpion0x17: can detect anyone's visible post count...; +691|7030|Cambridge (UK)

Freezer7Pro wrote:
No, it isn't gonna catch fire. No matter what you do, it isn't going to catch fire. You can hook it up to a kilovolt, and it won't catch fire. Even if something inside would catch fire, it wouldn't spread outside of the plastic, as there is nothing that will burn inside of it.

Why do everyone fear electronics?

Yeah, because plastic doesn't burn.

2009-02-13 11:55:48

#12

max: Vela Incident; +1,652|6831|NYC / Hamburg

Freezer7Pro wrote:
haffeysucks wrote:
i boosted my WRT54G signal from 75mW to 80mW and it's still cool. however, i know that before, it used to run a little warm.

wait, that's not really relevant. okay, the main thing is that it won't set your house on fire.
5mW? Lol. That won't improve your range. Set it to 100mW to see something happen. We run the one in school at 250.

I always just boost mine to maximum

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2009-02-13 12:04:15

#13

Brasso: member; +1,549|6894

max wrote:
Freezer7Pro wrote:
haffeysucks wrote:
i boosted my WRT54G signal from 75mW to 80mW and it's still cool. however, i know that before, it used to run a little warm.

wait, that's not really relevant. okay, the main thing is that it won't set your house on fire.
5mW? Lol. That won't improve your range. Set it to 100mW to see something happen. We run the one in school at 250.
I always just boost mine to maximum

there were warnings about overheating the router or something. should i just go for it then?

"people in ny have a general idea of how to drive. one of the pedals goes forward the other one prevents you from dying"

2009-02-13 12:04:53

#14

TheDonkey: Eat my bearrrrrrrrrrr, Tonighttt; +163|5981|Vancouver, BC, Canada

Freezer7Pro wrote:
TheDonkey wrote:
haffeysucks wrote:
i boosted my WRT54G signal from 75mW to 80mW and it's still cool. however, i know that before, it used to run a little warm.

wait, that's not really relevant. okay, the main thing is that it won't set your house on fire.
You actually boosted it from either 60 or 70 to 80,

By default, when you install DD-WRT it boosts it up a couple notches.
Tomato > DD-WRT tbh.

WRT54G V.8.2

It no run tomato.

2009-02-13 12:16:14

#15

max: Vela Incident; +1,652|6831|NYC / Hamburg

haffeysucks wrote:
max wrote:
Freezer7Pro wrote:

5mW? Lol. That won't improve your range. Set it to 100mW to see something happen. We run the one in school at 250.
I always just boost mine to maximum
there were warnings about overheating the router or something. should i just go for it then?

I like to live on the wild side

_{once upon a midnight dreary, while i pron surfed, weak and weary, over many a strange and spurious site of ' hot xxx galore'. While i clicked my fav'rite bookmark, suddenly there came a warning, and my heart was filled with mourning, mourning for my dear amour, " 'Tis not possible!", i muttered, " give me back my free hardcore!"..... quoth the server, 404.}

2009-02-13 12:19:09

#16

prototype: Member; +52|6575

what benefits are there if you boost the power?

2009-02-13 12:20:08

#17

TheDonkey: Eat my bearrrrrrrrrrr, Tonighttt; +163|5981|Vancouver, BC, Canada

prototype wrote:
what benefits are there if you boost the power?

More power = more distance.

2009-02-13 12:20:47

#18

prototype: Member; +52|6575

distance?

2009-02-13 12:24:12

#19

Brasso: member; +1,549|6894

prototype wrote:
distance?

range of the wireless signal

"people in ny have a general idea of how to drive. one of the pedals goes forward the other one prevents you from dying"

2009-02-13 13:24:42

#20

Freezer7Pro: I don't come here a lot anymore.; +1,447|6461|Winland

Scorpion0x17 wrote:
Freezer7Pro wrote:
No, it isn't gonna catch fire. No matter what you do, it isn't going to catch fire. You can hook it up to a kilovolt, and it won't catch fire. Even if something inside would catch fire, it wouldn't spread outside of the plastic, as there is nothing that will burn inside of it.

Why do everyone fear electronics?
Yeah, because plastic doesn't burn.

Not from the little heat that the components inside a router can produce when caught on fire, no. We're talking a "Fwuzz", perhaps a little bang from a capacitor, and then it's dead.

The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP

2009-02-13 14:22:28

#21

unnamednewbie13: Moderator; +2,054|7036|PNW

Freezer7Pro wrote:
No, it isn't gonna catch fire. No matter what you do, it isn't going to catch fire. You can hook it up to a kilovolt, and it won't catch fire. Even if something inside would catch fire, it wouldn't spread outside of the plastic, as there is nothing that will burn inside of it.

It's not good for the equipment or the desk's finish. He should stick it up on rubber feet or (where I keep my router and other small, hot-running gear) on top of a notebook cooler/fan. Heck, I have my PS3 up on one of those and the temperature has noticeably decreased, even with the fans off.

Freezer7Pro wrote:
Why do everyone fear electronics

I'd guess it'd be due to electrical fires that spark around bad power sockets, plus superstitions that rise from black scorch marks pasted on the back of the wall in the shape of a fan grill from a blown PSU. Maybe exploding and rocketing capacitors are scary? Nastily-smoking resistors?

Last edited by unnamednewbie13 (2009-02-13 14:23:09)

2009-02-13 14:39:25

#22

Freezer7Pro: I don't come here a lot anymore.; +1,447|6461|Winland

unnamednewbie13 wrote:
Freezer7Pro wrote:
No, it isn't gonna catch fire. No matter what you do, it isn't going to catch fire. You can hook it up to a kilovolt, and it won't catch fire. Even if something inside would catch fire, it wouldn't spread outside of the plastic, as there is nothing that will burn inside of it.
It's not good for the equipment or the desk's finish. He should stick it up on rubber feet or (where I keep my router and other small, hot-running gear) on top of a notebook cooler/fan. Heck, I have my PS3 up on one of those and the temperature has noticeably decreased, even with the fans off.

Freezer7Pro wrote:
Why do everyone fear electronics
I'd guess it'd be due to electrical fires that spark around bad power sockets, plus superstitions that rise from black scorch marks pasted on the back of the wall in the shape of a fan grill from a blown PSU. Maybe exploding and rocketing capacitors are scary? Nastily-smoking resistors?

99% of failing electronics are 100% safe.

The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP

2009-02-13 14:48:38

#23

CrazeD: Member; +368|6937|Maine

Freezer7Pro wrote:
unnamednewbie13 wrote:
Freezer7Pro wrote:
No, it isn't gonna catch fire. No matter what you do, it isn't going to catch fire. You can hook it up to a kilovolt, and it won't catch fire. Even if something inside would catch fire, it wouldn't spread outside of the plastic, as there is nothing that will burn inside of it.
It's not good for the equipment or the desk's finish. He should stick it up on rubber feet or (where I keep my router and other small, hot-running gear) on top of a notebook cooler/fan. Heck, I have my PS3 up on one of those and the temperature has noticeably decreased, even with the fans off.

Freezer7Pro wrote:
Why do everyone fear electronics
I'd guess it'd be due to electrical fires that spark around bad power sockets, plus superstitions that rise from black scorch marks pasted on the back of the wall in the shape of a fan grill from a blown PSU. Maybe exploding and rocketing capacitors are scary? Nastily-smoking resistors?
99% of failing electronics are 100% safe.

Except for the toxic fumes they produce, sure.

2009-02-13 14:57:29

#24

Freezer7Pro: I don't come here a lot anymore.; +1,447|6461|Winland

CrazeD wrote:
Freezer7Pro wrote:
unnamednewbie13 wrote:
Freezer7Pro wrote:
No, it isn't gonna catch fire. No matter what you do, it isn't going to catch fire. You can hook it up to a kilovolt, and it won't catch fire. Even if something inside would catch fire, it wouldn't spread outside of the plastic, as there is nothing that will burn inside of it.
It's not good for the equipment or the desk's finish. He should stick it up on rubber feet or (where I keep my router and other small, hot-running gear) on top of a notebook cooler/fan. Heck, I have my PS3 up on one of those and the temperature has noticeably decreased, even with the fans off.

I'd guess it'd be due to electrical fires that spark around bad power sockets, plus superstitions that rise from black scorch marks pasted on the back of the wall in the shape of a fan grill from a blown PSU. Maybe exploding and rocketing capacitors are scary? Nastily-smoking resistors?
99% of failing electronics are 100% safe.
Except for the toxic fumes they produce, sure.

Aside from Lithium batteries, there just isn't enough material to cause any dangerous levels of fumes in electronics. Most stuff is really small. A capacitor the size of your fingernail isn't gonna kill you if it so vaporized completely.

The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP

2009-02-13 15:53:25

#25

steelie34: pub hero!; +603|6645|the land of bourbon

Freezer7Pro wrote:
CrazeD wrote:
Freezer7Pro wrote:

99% of failing electronics are 100% safe.
Except for the toxic fumes they produce, sure.
Aside from Lithium batteries, there just isn't enough material to cause any dangerous levels of fumes in electronics. Most stuff is really small. A capacitor the size of your fingernail isn't gonna kill you if it so vaporized completely.

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