XP installation problems on old AMD setup....

2009-02-14 17:21:20

#1

GC_PaNzerFIN: Work and study @ Technical Uni; +528|6678|Finland

I got my brother's old pc here and I'm switching crap Win ME to XP as of his request. (one app he wants to use only works in xp/newer)

1.2GHz Athlon
Soltek lol board
512MB ram
300w
40GB IDE HDD
IDE DVD-RW

XP installation freezes on 'Starting windows' right before the licence agreement should pop up.... I have tried two HDDs, two dvd-rw drives and even burned new XP cd to make sure its not the disk. Also tried different IDE connectors on mobo and new IDE cable. Mobo shouldn't have any RAID feature on (probably doesn't even have such feature).

Any ideas? The XP I'm trying to install is 32bit XP Professional. I'll give the mobo closer look tomorrow and see if I can find out the model to find out if it does have RAID drivers...

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2009-02-14 17:23:04

#2

.Sup: be nice; +2,646|6717|The Twilight Zone

I suspect RAM. Some setup files are loaded there. Also make sure the HDD isn't full.

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2009-02-14 17:23:56

#3

CrazeD: Member; +368|6937|Maine

Probably RAM.

2009-02-14 17:24:30

#4

GC_PaNzerFIN: Work and study @ Technical Uni; +528|6678|Finland

.Sup wrote:
I suspect RAM. Some setup files are loaded there. Also make sure the HDD isn't full.

other HDD is unformatted and other is freshly formatted.

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2009-02-14 17:33:04

#5

Freezer7Pro: I don't come here a lot anymore.; +1,447|6461|Winland

Probably RAM or mobo.

Checked closely for bad caps on the mobo?

The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP

2009-02-14 17:37:06

#6

max: Vela Incident; +1,652|6831|NYC / Hamburg

memtest time

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2009-02-14 17:40:00

#7

GC_PaNzerFIN: Work and study @ Technical Uni; +528|6678|Finland

tried with another identical stick of ram... still freezes on the install, but now it booted from my old 98 SE backup HDD (didn't do that with the old ram). I'll check the caps on the mobo....

edit: just noticed the keyboard looses power when it freezes... weird...

Last edited by GC_PaNzerFIN (2009-02-14 17:41:20)

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2009-02-14 17:53:55

#8

Scorpion0x17: can detect anyone's visible post count...; +691|7030|Cambridge (UK)

as well as looking for dead caps and running memtest, check the PSU with a multimeter

2009-02-14 18:53:28

#9

GCFC: Davide Santon; +45|6193|NY/CT

Scorpion0x17 wrote:
check the PSU with a multimeter

2009-02-15 04:50:18

#10

GC_PaNzerFIN: Work and study @ Technical Uni; +528|6678|Finland

wou about fucking time.... It went to the format screen after like 30 tries....

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2009-02-15 05:01:25

#11

Finray: Hup! Dos, Tres, Cuatro; +2,629|6052|Catherine Black

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
wou about fucking time.... It went to the format screen after like 30 tries....

Lol.

Seriously, build him a new computer, Panzer, You could run 5 instances of Crysis on yours, encode 10 1080p movies, run f@h on every core in your PC and it would STILL outrun your brothers.

Even if you spend 200 euros he'll notice the difference.

why the fuck am I telling you this? You know already....

But you're rich, make him something cheap and be a good brother

2009-02-15 05:04:35

#12

GC_PaNzerFIN: Work and study @ Technical Uni; +528|6678|Finland

I know I could build him a 200€ rig and oc it about 90% and it would be really nice.... I'll need to talk about that to him... he got a free Lenovo X300 lappy (yes, the one that costs over 2000€) so its not that bad atm... this pc is scheisse tho... noisy fucker.

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2009-02-15 05:06:09

#13

Finray: Hup! Dos, Tres, Cuatro; +2,629|6052|Catherine Black

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
I know I could build him a 200€ rig and oc it about 90% and it would be really nice.... I'll need to talk about that to him... he got a free Lenovo X300 lappy (yes, the one that costs over 2000€) so its not that bad atm... this pc is scheisse tho... noisy fucker.

What do you press the get the euro sign on a UK keyboard?

EDIT: €€

got it

Last edited by Finray (2009-02-15 05:06:36)

2009-02-15 16:41:36

#14

cospengle: Member; +140|6751|Armidale, NSW, Australia

Scorpion0x17 wrote:
check the PSU with a multimeter

http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?id=60003

just in case you decide to do it.

2009-02-15 16:47:22

#15

GC_PaNzerFIN: Work and study @ Technical Uni; +528|6678|Finland

cospengle wrote:
Scorpion0x17 wrote:
check the PSU with a multimeter
http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?id=60003

just in case you decide to do it.

thanks for effort, but I was measuring the rails from my K5-2 rig well over 10 years ago

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2009-02-15 16:56:39

#16

CrazeD: Member; +368|6937|Maine

cospengle wrote:
Scorpion0x17 wrote:
check the PSU with a multimeter
http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?id=60003

just in case you decide to do it.

lol, I totally forgot about that guide.

EDIT: Oh and to freezer, who is making fun of my analog multimeter: fu. That thing is old, and doesn't work anymore... so next time I need a multimeter I'ma have to go buy me a digital one I guess.

Last edited by CrazeD (2009-02-15 16:57:40)

2009-02-15 17:00:29

#17

Freezer7Pro: I don't come here a lot anymore.; +1,447|6461|Winland

CrazeD wrote:
cospengle wrote:
Scorpion0x17 wrote:
check the PSU with a multimeter
http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?id=60003

just in case you decide to do it.
lol, I totally forgot about that guide.

EDIT: Oh and to freezer, who is making fun of my analog multimeter: fu. That thing is old, and doesn't work anymore... so next time I need a multimeter I'ma have to go buy me a digital one I guess.

I've had a digital multimeter since 1999. It's my first multimeter, still going strong

The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP

2009-02-15 17:02:43

#18

CrazeD: Member; +368|6937|Maine

Freezer7Pro wrote:
CrazeD wrote:
cospengle wrote:

http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?id=60003

just in case you decide to do it.
lol, I totally forgot about that guide.

EDIT: Oh and to freezer, who is making fun of my analog multimeter: fu. That thing is old, and doesn't work anymore... so next time I need a multimeter I'ma have to go buy me a digital one I guess.
I've had a digital multimeter since 1999. It's my first multimeter, still going strong

My analog one just randomly died, for no apparent reason.

I suspected the fuse, but the fuse doesn't look blown at all.

Meh, oh well. Gives me an excuse to get a digital one I guess.

2009-02-15 17:03:07

#19

GC_PaNzerFIN: Work and study @ Technical Uni; +528|6678|Finland

Freezer7Pro wrote:
CrazeD wrote:
cospengle wrote:

http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?id=60003

just in case you decide to do it.
lol, I totally forgot about that guide.

EDIT: Oh and to freezer, who is making fun of my analog multimeter: fu. That thing is old, and doesn't work anymore... so next time I need a multimeter I'ma have to go buy me a digital one I guess.
I've had a digital multimeter since 1999. It's my first multimeter, still going strong

Haha yeah only place I have used analog multimeters is my old school and even there was mostly digital.... I have no idea how old my multimeter is but its older than my K5-2 rig so its old...

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2009-02-23 10:47:28

#20

GC_PaNzerFIN: Work and study @ Technical Uni; +528|6678|Finland

Well it worked for a week, but now he has a new issue.

PC fails to post.... goddamnit... I'll pick up the pc tomorrow after some other stuff in city....

Round two begins... I had the post fail a few times and it didn't seem to have any solid fix or cause. It randomly fixed itself after anything as simple as changing monitor cable to different VGA connector to reseting CMOS and reconnecting all the crap. Even that didn't fix it always.

But not fixing itself this time...

edit: I ran 12 hours memtest without errors when I had the pc. So I doubt its the ram... time to check the mobo physically...

Last edited by GC_PaNzerFIN (2009-02-23 10:49:42)

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2009-02-23 15:58:44

#21

GR34: Member; +215|6809|ALBERTA> CANADA

linux? try?

2009-02-23 16:06:42

#22

GC_PaNzerFIN: Work and study @ Technical Uni; +528|6678|Finland

GR34 wrote:
linux? try?

how would that help when I can't even get in BIOS

Last edited by GC_PaNzerFIN (2009-02-23 16:07:03)

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2009-02-23 17:07:08

#23

CrazeD: Member; +368|6937|Maine

Any beeps when you remove RAM?

2009-02-24 12:43:55

#24

GC_PaNzerFIN: Work and study @ Technical Uni; +528|6678|Finland

goddamnit... the pc failed to post at my brothers place and now that I dragged it to my place, it booted just fine : O

time to get the mobo out in the open....

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2009-02-24 15:41:25

#25

Scorpion0x17: can detect anyone's visible post count...; +691|7030|Cambridge (UK)

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:
goddamnit... the pc failed to post at my brothers place and now that I dragged it to my place, it booted just fine : O

time to get the mobo out in the open....

when the POST freezes, if you leave it for some time, or reset it, do you then, after a while, hear the HDD spin up?

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